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 Post subject: Re: Seacrest
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:06 pm 
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So reader if you started coughing up blood I assume you'll just treat it with berries and hope?

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 Post subject: Re: Seacrest
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:14 pm 
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So reader if you started coughing up blood I assume you'll just treat it with berries and hope?


With water and aspirin if I was overserved the night before, probably.

If I had other inexplicable and/or long lingering internal pains, no, I'd see a doctor. I'm really a go see a doctor as a last resort guy. I've had a number of bad experiences with MDs...including one where I was going to receive treatment on the wrong body part & one where my mom was getting prepped for cancer surgery, until the actual surgeon realized that the entire procedure would have been a mistake.

And the doctor who recommended the surgery was one of the (then) highest rated oncologists in this area. I was almost homicidal upon hearing that one.


Edit: Fwiw, 25 years ago I "walked off" a broken hip w/o going to the doctor.

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 Post subject: Re: Seacrest
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Darkside wrote:
So reader if you started coughing up blood I assume you'll just treat it with berries and hope?




When i started coughing up blood in San Francisco in March, I went to UCSF Medical Center.

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 Post subject: Re: Seacrest
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:18 pm 
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Yeah I dunno what with human life expectancy almost doubling over the last century or so I'd say most doctors know what they're doing.

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 Post subject: Re: Seacrest
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:24 pm 
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Yeah I dunno what with human life expectancy almost doubling over the last century or so I'd say most doctors know what they're doing.


Basic public health initiatives concerning sanitation, prevention awareness, healthy food suggestions, and 60-100 year old settled science/medicine has a lot to do with that. Restless knee, boner, high blood pressure and nutso prevention pills have very little to do with that. (i.e., most of what constitutes "modern" medicine)

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 Post subject: Re: Seacrest
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:26 pm 
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I just went to two doctors recently. I tripped over a dog lead and fell into a pile of sticks backwards. Got some scrapes and cuts, but one cut wouldn't heal. Go in to get it looked at (granted, it was like three months later -- it wasn't painful, but I figured at that point if it didn't heal, it might need medical intervention.) He looks at it and says, hmmm... there's a hard tubular shaped object there... it isn't in your other arm. Let us do some x-rays. I say OK. They do the x-rays, he says yeah that is not a stick, it is just some hardening of cartilage. I could cut it out, but it is near your elbow where there are nerves and such -- let me refer you to a hand/arm specialist.

Go to the hand arm specialist. He looks at it and the x-rays and says, yes this looks like a pyogenic granuloma. Take these caustic sticks and see if it will scab over... if not, we'll go in surgically. So the thing doesn't scab over, and I make a follow up appointment, but as I'm cleaning the wound a week later, there's a dark spot of blood. I go to remove it, and it isn't coming off, so I grab a hold of it to give it a good tug -- out comes a one and a half inch stick. One week later and the thing is completely scabbing over and healing.

I personally think most doctors see what they want to see and there's a lot of get them in/get them out mentality due to the lack of qualified doctors.

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 Post subject: Re: Seacrest
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:28 pm 
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I just went to two doctors recently. I tripped over a dog lead and fell into a pile of sticks backwards. Got some scrapes and cuts, but one cut wouldn't heal. Go in to get it looked at (granted, it was like three months later -- it wasn't painful, but I figured at that point if it didn't heal, it might need medical intervention.) He looks at it and says, hmmm... there's a hard tubular shaped object there... it isn't in your other arm. Let us do some x-rays. I say OK. They do the x-rays, he says yeah that is not a stick, it is just some hardening of cartilage. I could cut it out, but it is near your elbow where there are nerves and such -- let me refer you to a hand/arm specialist.

Go to the hand arm specialist. He looks at it and the x-rays and says, yes this looks like a pyogenic granuloma. Take these caustic sticks and see if it will scab over... if not, we'll go in surgically. So the thing doesn't scab over, and I make a follow up appointment, but as I'm cleaning the wound a week later, there's a dark spot of blood. I go to remove it, and it isn't coming off, so I grab a hold of it to give it a good tug -- out comes a one and a half inch stick. One week later and the thing is completely scabbing over and healing.

I personally think most doctors see what they want to see and there's a lot of get them in/get them out mentality due to the lack of qualified doctors.

Be. Less. Clumsy.

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 Post subject: Re: Seacrest
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newper wrote:
I just went to two doctors recently. I tripped over a dog lead and fell into a pile of sticks backwards. Got some scrapes and cuts, but one cut wouldn't heal. Go in to get it looked at (granted, it was like three months later -- it wasn't painful, but I figured at that point if it didn't heal, it might need medical intervention.) He looks at it and says, hmmm... there's a hard tubular shaped object there... it isn't in your other arm. Let us do some x-rays. I say OK. They do the x-rays, he says yeah that is not a stick, it is just some hardening of cartilage. I could cut it out, but it is near your elbow where there are nerves and such -- let me refer you to a hand/arm specialist.

Go to the hand arm specialist. He looks at it and the x-rays and says, yes this looks like a pyogenic granuloma. Take these caustic sticks and see if it will scab over... if not, we'll go in surgically. So the thing doesn't scab over, and I make a follow up appointment, but as I'm cleaning the wound a week later, there's a dark spot of blood. I go to remove it, and it isn't coming off, so I grab a hold of it to give it a good tug -- out comes a one and a half inch stick. One week later and the thing is completely scabbing over and healing.

I personally think most doctors see what they want to see and there's a lot of get them in/get them out mentality due to the lack of qualified doctors.

Be. Less. Clumsy.

I agree and I'm out $500 for all this crap.

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 Post subject: Re: Seacrest
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:56 pm 
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newper wrote:
I just went to two doctors recently. I tripped over a dog lead and fell into a pile of sticks backwards. Got some scrapes and cuts, but one cut wouldn't heal. Go in to get it looked at (granted, it was like three months later -- it wasn't painful, but I figured at that point if it didn't heal, it might need medical intervention.) He looks at it and says, hmmm... there's a hard tubular shaped object there... it isn't in your other arm. Let us do some x-rays. I say OK. They do the x-rays, he says yeah that is not a stick, it is just some hardening of cartilage. I could cut it out, but it is near your elbow where there are nerves and such -- let me refer you to a hand/arm specialist.

Go to the hand arm specialist. He looks at it and the x-rays and says, yes this looks like a pyogenic granuloma. Take these caustic sticks and see if it will scab over... if not, we'll go in surgically. So the thing doesn't scab over, and I make a follow up appointment, but as I'm cleaning the wound a week later, there's a dark spot of blood. I go to remove it, and it isn't coming off, so I grab a hold of it to give it a good tug -- out comes a one and a half inch stick. One week later and the thing is completely scabbing over and healing.

I personally think most doctors see what they want to see and there's a lot of get them in/get them out mentality due to the lack of qualified doctors.


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 Post subject: Re: Seacrest
PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:00 am 
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newper wrote:
I just went to two doctors recently. I tripped over a dog lead and fell into a pile of sticks backwards. Got some scrapes and cuts, but one cut wouldn't heal. Go in to get it looked at (granted, it was like three months later -- it wasn't painful, but I figured at that point if it didn't heal, it might need medical intervention.) He looks at it and says, hmmm... there's a hard tubular shaped object there... it isn't in your other arm. Let us do some x-rays. I say OK. They do the x-rays, he says yeah that is not a stick, it is just some hardening of cartilage. I could cut it out, but it is near your elbow where there are nerves and such -- let me refer you to a hand/arm specialist.

Go to the hand arm specialist. He looks at it and the x-rays and says, yes this looks like a pyogenic granuloma. Take these caustic sticks and see if it will scab over... if not, we'll go in surgically. So the thing doesn't scab over, and I make a follow up appointment, but as I'm cleaning the wound a week later, there's a dark spot of blood. I go to remove it, and it isn't coming off, so I grab a hold of it to give it a good tug -- out comes a one and a half inch stick. One week later and the thing is completely scabbing over and healing.

I personally think most doctors see what they want to see and there's a lot of get them in/get them out mentality due to the lack of qualified doctors.


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Yes!

There was a Bulls player also......I can't remember who it was? Tyson Chandler?
I think that's wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: Seacrest
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Chus wrote:
newper wrote:
I just went to two doctors recently. I tripped over a dog lead and fell into a pile of sticks backwards. Got some scrapes and cuts, but one cut wouldn't heal. Go in to get it looked at (granted, it was like three months later -- it wasn't painful, but I figured at that point if it didn't heal, it might need medical intervention.) He looks at it and says, hmmm... there's a hard tubular shaped object there... it isn't in your other arm. Let us do some x-rays. I say OK. They do the x-rays, he says yeah that is not a stick, it is just some hardening of cartilage. I could cut it out, but it is near your elbow where there are nerves and such -- let me refer you to a hand/arm specialist.

Go to the hand arm specialist. He looks at it and the x-rays and says, yes this looks like a pyogenic granuloma. Take these caustic sticks and see if it will scab over... if not, we'll go in surgically. So the thing doesn't scab over, and I make a follow up appointment, but as I'm cleaning the wound a week later, there's a dark spot of blood. I go to remove it, and it isn't coming off, so I grab a hold of it to give it a good tug -- out comes a one and a half inch stick. One week later and the thing is completely scabbing over and healing.

I personally think most doctors see what they want to see and there's a lot of get them in/get them out mentality due to the lack of qualified doctors.


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Yes!

There was a Bulls player also......I can't remember who it was? Tyson Chandler?
I think that's wrong.

I might be thinking of Boozer tripping over his "luggage".

Same thing.

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 Post subject: Re: Seacrest
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I might be thinking of Boozer tripping over his "luggage".

Same thing.

He may have some long luggage, but certainly not long enough to trip over.

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I just went to two doctors recently. I tripped over a dog lead and fell into a pile of sticks backwards. .


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Chus wrote:
newper wrote:
I just went to two doctors recently. I tripped over a dog lead and fell into a pile of sticks backwards. Got some scrapes and cuts, but one cut wouldn't heal. Go in to get it looked at (granted, it was like three months later -- it wasn't painful, but I figured at that point if it didn't heal, it might need medical intervention.) He looks at it and says, hmmm... there's a hard tubular shaped object there... it isn't in your other arm. Let us do some x-rays. I say OK. They do the x-rays, he says yeah that is not a stick, it is just some hardening of cartilage. I could cut it out, but it is near your elbow where there are nerves and such -- let me refer you to a hand/arm specialist.

Go to the hand arm specialist. He looks at it and the x-rays and says, yes this looks like a pyogenic granuloma. Take these caustic sticks and see if it will scab over... if not, we'll go in surgically. So the thing doesn't scab over, and I make a follow up appointment, but as I'm cleaning the wound a week later, there's a dark spot of blood. I go to remove it, and it isn't coming off, so I grab a hold of it to give it a good tug -- out comes a one and a half inch stick. One week later and the thing is completely scabbing over and healing.

I personally think most doctors see what they want to see and there's a lot of get them in/get them out mentality due to the lack of qualified doctors.


Newper = Bryan Robinson

Yes!

There was a Bulls player also......I can't remember who it was? Tyson Chandler?
I think that's wrong.


Carlos Boozer.

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