He was doing the Uncle Drew National commercials before The Prodigal Son came home to ride Kyrie's coattails to a championship.

Kyrie was doing just fine without crunch time role player like LeBron

That's Nas level stuff right there.

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Yeah rpb where did that come from? I may be a tad hyperbolic but my argument is sound I think. Your response seems to indicate you think I'm crazy for believing Kyrie isn't/wasn't shit (in terms of tram success) without LBJ.

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The funny thing is the type of idiotic statements by vegan in threads like this is exactly why Kyrie wanted out. He's shown the last three years that he is one of the best players in the league, shows up on the biggest stages, and is one of the best offensive players in the league. And you got fans like vegan who say he isn't shit just because he's not LeBron. It's absurd.

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So Kyrie Irving wants out because idiots like me think he wouldn't have won a ring without LBJ? Now he's definitely a little bitch.

Kyrie Irving doesn't need LeBron to prove he's all of what you said he is. He just needed LeBron to do all of that in the playoffs. That's a fact. You talk about absurd. You know what's absurd? You failing to acknowledge Kyrie put up decent stats while not winning shit until LBJ came on board. How did Kyrie get to the playoffs for the first time in his career to "shown up on the biggest stages"? You know why but won't admit it.

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You appear to be upset because he is attempting to win a ring without LeBron?

Or you're upset because LeBron now has to get to the finals without a legit sidekick? Last time he attempted that he was bounced in the 2nd round. Had to scurry down to South Beach in order to make it right.

Who happens to be the bigger bitch? The guy who insists on playing with top level talent every year or the guy that says trade me so that I can find out how good that I actually am?

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He played like three seasons without LeBron? You tend to extrapolate way too much based on a season or two when it's convenient for you(Pippen didn't win without Jordan).

I don't know why the first part of your post is funny. The most competitive people tend to care what others think about how good they are.

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Admitting Kyrie got to the playoffs and finals for the first time because of LBJ isn't taking anything away from Kyrie. Why are you having a difficult time accepting reality? Kyrie at best is a Pippen but he thinks he's a Jordan. He's free to think that of course but he's made a big mistake. LBJ was the engine that made the Cavs go but it's fine if Kyrie wants to pursue individual stat glory instead of competing for championships.

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I am. This has turned into a ridiculous conversation.

Here's reality: Kyrie Irving is by pretty much any calculation one of the 15-20 best players in the NBA. Maybe higher. He's proven time and again that he brings his A+ game on the biggest stages, and not every superstar can say that(including LeBron). He's 25 years old and still improving every season. He made it to three straight Finals as the second best player and won a ring. For whatever reasons that only he really knows, he decided that was enough for this stage of his career, and wanted a new challenge. Everything I just said is true, it is reality.

Now that we have that covered, let's move on to his trade request. From your past opinions, it is safe to say that you don't feel players owe teams any particular loyalty. So in this case, you think Kyrie owes not the Cavs, but Lebron. You think this because LeBron is better than Kyrie and helped him win a ring. But LeBron is going to LA after this season. Is he taking Kyrie with? Of course not. So you want Kyrie to give up any personal ambition, as well as any chance of improving his situation for the 2018-2019 season, all for one more season to be LeBron's underappreciated sidekick?

I think it's pretty clear to anyone who's bothered to read our exchanges that I'm being far more objective about Kyrie than you are. You think it's dumb for a player to ask to be traded from LeBron's team, so that has led you to disregard everything in this post and just whine like a petulant kid about Kyrie being a "bitch", about Kyrie "not being shit", etc.

And Kyrie will compete for a championship once again next year and the years after.

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But he didn't bow down to the king and kiss the rings etc.

Snark, Snark, Snark

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