Just won the NJCAA Division III World Series beating Tyler, Texas.

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Like Oakton in Des Plaines?

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Pretty good for a small market!

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

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My parents used to threaten me with Oakton for bad report cards.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

A friend of mine's kid turned down a full ride to Knox to play for Fratto. I don't think his mother was too happy about it, but the kid wants some kind of career in baseball and thought this was a better route.

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that's funny.

how is education viewed over there these days?

back in the day if you went to community college you were seen as some kind of idiot. like something was wrong with you. you were a leper.

nowadays at least here and on the western US, community college is seen as a great money saver and alternative to the 4 years at one school concept. it's considered a place where the 18/19 year old can frow and find themselves before transferring to the big school. There is no shame associated anymore with choosing community college.

Have views about community college changed in Chicagoland as well?

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did he have a full academic scholarship? knox is a d3 school and can't/doesn't offer athletic scholarships.

Well, you know how that works. The kid is a good student, but I doubt the same aid package would have been offered if he was not a stud catcher.

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what i do know is that the stories that get told by athletes/parents regarding D3 "offers" are often not close to reality. with all due respect to your friend's kid, "stud catchers" don't play baseball at D3 schools, especially ones with a poor program like knox.

It was CLC in my household and sure enough that's exactly where I ended up after posting a 0.00 GPA my firs semester at Oklahoma.


Also attended a year at Triton. Never made it to Oakton or Harper in my JUCO tour.

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The shitty program at Knox is one of the main reasons he didn't go there. He actually accepted a scholarship at a Division III powerhouse, but then Fratto got to talking to him. He's quite likely to be playing D1 ball after next season. I have no reason to blow this guy up. He's not my kid. I'm telling you the truth.

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i didn't/shouldn't beat up the kid. that wasn't my intent. sorry if it came across that way. he made a good choice to go the juco route, imo. d3 sports are often nothing more than a recruiting tool for the school to get more kids/dollars in the door. juco sports can be, and often are, a stepping stone.

No, I didn't take it that way. I think the reason the kid wasn't recruited by D1 schools is probably his size. He's not the biggest kid around. He's a superior defensive catcher but when it came down to the tournament they went with the guy with the big bat. My guy has always been a good hitter. I'm pretty sure he's the best hitter in the history of his high school (which admittedly isn't a powerhouse like Andrew or Sandburg or Barrington, etc.), but he said himself that it's a big step up from high school even to Juco. He had a decent year with the bat, didn't show a whole lot of power though even though I believe he hit like 13 homers in his last high school season, which I think is a giant number, right? They expect him to really step forward with the stick next season and his defense has never been in question. Maybe he can grow a little. Oakton had that pitcher from Notre Dame H.S. last season. He was a nice little lefty in high school, but he grew several inches at Oakton and next thing you know he's throwing 95 and at LSU.

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ECC and the military were my threat but I did spend the summer of 96 working on my self at Oakton before heading out to Bozeman.