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If you look at the total for the age of potential fighter you have a 28.7% on the male side and 29.9% on the female. That give you a whopping 58.6%.

Everybody is a potential fighter.... so if you take both sides that gives you a whopping 100%! Holy shit, we're fucked.

Come on be serious and honest. You all rip on me for statements like that.

why not kep them in thier home country and let them fight for it themselves instead of us?

Well, there's a couple things here.

The civil war in Syria that's been going on for years has left the country in absolute ruin. If they stay in Syria, they have a choice between Assad, and ISIS. Over 60% of Syria is now in extreme poverty, and this civil war has caused the life expectancy in the country to drop by 20 years. If everyone tells the refugees "tough shit, stay there", they are practically begging them to join the ranks of ISIS. They won't have many other options. It would be a much better option for the refugees and the world if we can help them successfully relocate.

The second thing is that telling the refugees to fuck off doesn't really help the US or France, and it does nothing to prevent more terrorist attacks, which seems to be the main objective of everybody at the current moment. We need to be reaching out to Muslims who are against ISIS and get their aid in helping us fight ISIS. If we continue to demonize all Muslims, and group all of them together as terrorists or possible terrorists, we are actually helping ISIS and actively alienating potentially our biggest allies against them. Read the link below. We have help in this war against ISIS. Let's let them help.

https://reason.com/archives/2015/11/19/ ... ar-on-isis

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Me. I haven't eaten beef or pork in 17 years

You're known for eating a different type of meat.

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Me. I haven't eaten beef or pork in 17 years

You're known for eating a different type of meat.


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Me. I haven't eaten beef or pork in 17 years

You're known for eating a different type of meat.


Chicken?

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I still don't understand why Syrian refugees are our problem at all. There are a ton of really rich nations in close proximity to Syria that can handle this if they choose to. Why are we bailing them out when it isn't a problem for us?

Ultimately, ISIS, and other terrorist groups are caused in large part because Islamic states(not the people, but the countries) create an environment that leads to it. Maybe dealing with these refugees will give them a different perspective.

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I still don't understand why Syrian refugees are our problem at all. There are a ton of really rich nations in close proximity to Syria that can handle this if they choose to. Why are we bailing them out when it isn't a problem for us?

Ultimately, ISIS, and other terrorist groups are caused in large part because Islamic states(not the people, but the countries) create an environment that leads to it. Maybe dealing with these refugees will give them a different perspective.


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Give em a few flat screens and access to porn and they're ours.


our ambassador should just be mia khalifa and have that be the end.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I still don't understand why Syrian refugees are our problem at all. There are a ton of really rich nations in close proximity to Syria that can handle this if they choose to. Why are we bailing them out when it isn't a problem for us?

Ultimately, ISIS, and other terrorist groups are caused in large part because Islamic states(not the people, but the countries) create an environment that leads to it. Maybe dealing with these refugees will give them a different perspective.


They don't want them. It's that simple. Get rid of the undesirables who suck up resources and young males who will cause trouble foenthw regimes. Why keep them and try to improve anything if you don't have to? At this point it isn't (and never really was) about fixing anything, it's about the regimes survival.

Plus, the rich M.E. nations are funding this chaos.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I still don't understand why Syrian refugees are our problem at all. There are a ton of really rich nations in close proximity to Syria that can handle this if they choose to. Why are we bailing them out when it isn't a problem for us?

Ultimately, ISIS, and other terrorist groups are caused in large part because Islamic states(not the people, but the countries) create an environment that leads to it. Maybe dealing with these refugees will give them a different perspective.


It's a complicated issue. It's not that they're "our problem", but I believe most Americans have a desire to help those who are suffering, who are the victims of such misfortune. And I think we should. That's what sets us apart, what makes us exceptional despite the protestations of self-flagellating liberals like Noam Chomsky.

The problem in this instance becomes that, even if you believe there isn't a terrorist in the bunch, these are people who have very different values than we do. Sure, when they're shivering on a beach they don't look like people who believe in stoning women to death for being raped or cutting a kid's hands off for stealing a candy bar. I don't know what the answer is. I'm sure it's not simply "fuck you" just as much as I'm sure it isn't "yeah, bring 'em all in!"

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I still don't understand why Syrian refugees are our problem at all. There are a ton of really rich nations in close proximity to Syria that can handle this if they choose to. Why are we bailing them out when it isn't a problem for us?

Ultimately, ISIS, and other terrorist groups are caused in large part because Islamic states(not the people, but the countries) create an environment that leads to it. Maybe dealing with these refugees will give them a different perspective.


It's a complicated issue. It's not that they're "our problem", but I believe most Americans have a desire to help those who are suffering, who are the victims of such misfortune. And I think we should. That's what sets us apart, what makes us exceptional despite the protestations of self-flagellating liberals like Noam Chomsky.

The problem in this instance becomes that, even if you believe there isn't a terrorist in the bunch, these are people who have very different values than we do. Sure, when they're shivering on a beach they don't look like people who believe in stoning women to death for being raped or cutting a kid's hands off for stealing a candy bar. I don't know what the answer is. I'm sure it's not simply "fuck you" just as much as I'm sure it isn't "yeah, bring 'em all in!"


The answer is to find a desolate island on the planet earth,drop them supplies and giant storage containers for housing. Donate them some cheap HD TV's for entertainment and they are good to go!

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I still don't understand why Syrian refugees are our problem at all. There are a ton of really rich nations in close proximity to Syria that can handle this if they choose to. Why are we bailing them out when it isn't a problem for us?

Ultimately, ISIS, and other terrorist groups are caused in large part because Islamic states(not the people, but the countries) create an environment that leads to it. Maybe dealing with these refugees will give them a different perspective.


It's a complicated issue. It's not that they're "our problem", but I believe most Americans have a desire to help those who are suffering, who are the victims of such misfortune. And I think we should. That's what sets us apart, what makes us exceptional despite the protestations of self-flagellating liberals like Noam Chomsky.

The problem in this instance becomes that, even if you believe there isn't a terrorist in the bunch, these are people who have very different values than we do. Sure, when they're shivering on a beach they don't look like people who believe in stoning women to death for being raped or cutting a kid's hands off for stealing a candy bar. I don't know what the answer is. I'm sure it's not simply "fuck you" just as much as I'm sure it isn't "yeah, bring 'em all in!"


The answer is to find a desolate island on the planet earth,drop them supplies and giant storage containers for housing. Donate them some cheap HD TV's for entertainment and they are good to go!


Then let Mark Burnett make a reality show out of it- Refugee Island.

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Brick has a very good point. I know GDP per capita isn't the greatest stat in the world, but heres some rankings...

(1) Qatar
(5) Kuwait
(7) UAE
(10) USA
(11) Saudi Arabia
(13) Bahrain
(18) Germany
(26) France
(27) UK
(86) Jordan
(136) Syria


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Give em a few flat screens and access to porn and they're ours.


our ambassador should just be mia khalifa and have that be the end.


There have been several death threats placed on her from a couple Muslim groups

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So,
FF no response to the statement about the interpreters?

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Add to the fact that until last week we where letting ISIS run their tanker fleet unmolested. I mean if you are at war with someone are you not going to try and stop them from funding the war? Just goes to show you how incompetent the Pres is.

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FF no response to the statement about the interpreters?

Even though all I did was get high and drunk in the Army, I still met and trained with 7 terps in Ft Polk and Ft. Bragg. Great guys. I wasn't even aware that there was an issue with those that helped having trouble getting over here. If there is, then of course that's bullshit and we should fix that. I don't think it has any relevancy to the refugee crisis though.

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Really so the refugees should get in before those guys?

I am not against letting people in, I am against letting people in who could do us potential harm. Those males,as we seem to be hesitant to put women in harms way, who are of draft age go to the training camps. They do not get to go to what ever country they want to.
We have to take care of our own before we look to take care of others. There are too many of my countrymen living destitute on the streets, many of them veterans. There should be no way we are taking others in while we have these types of problems. Not in these numbers anyway. And not people who are potentially a very big security risk. You have Snowden as an avatar, so I take it you want less monitoring by the government of our lives. Well,by letting these people in you are inviting more of it not less, for better or worse. The other thing is if you look at the definition of refugee in the USCIS these people do not meet most of the criteria.

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Chas, I'm done with you on this topic. You keep posting blatantly false information, and refuse to acknowledge the refugees are the victims of ISIS, not ISIS themselves. Have a good day, and try not to threaten to rape anyone's family or disrespect a veteran because they didn't go overseas.

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https://medium.com/sportspickle/alabama-governor-agrees-to-allow-syrian-refugees-who-can-run-a-sub-4-5-40-3caced68c1db#.gx5uisai4

MONTGOMERY, AL — Alabama governor Robert Bentley reversed his stance today on stopping Syrian refugees from entering the state, saying Alabama would be a “safe harbor to all refugees who prove they can run a sub-4.5 40 and have college eligibility left.” Bentley’s change of mind comes after heavy lobbying efforts from Alabama head coach Nick Saban, the state’s highest-paid employee.

“After careful consideration, I felt that it wasn’t fitting with American ideals to just ban an entire group of people who are being persecuted, no questions asked,” said Gov. Bentley. “Yet there has to be a middle ground. And that middle ground is adding some speed at the skill positions.”

Saban told Bentley in a phone call yesterday that he could take an athletic Syrian who hasn’t been coached any bad habits previously and make him into a contributing player in one year.

“That was all I needed to hear,” said the governor. “If we can open up the recruiting pipeline to Syria, and then to the Middle East and the entire Arab world, Alabama could be the top school for millions of four and five-star kids. Let other states take their best and brightest, or even Syrians who are truly in need, if they want. In Alabama, we’ll focus on the fastest and strongest. We’re not trying to be the world’s savior. We’re trying to win national titles.”

Starting today, Alabama will begin processing Syrian refugees in Tuscaloosa. Men, women and children will be put through an NFL combine-style test to see if they will be allowed permanent entry. All those who don’t pass muster will be sent over the border to Mississippi.

Gov. Bentley insisted that he doesn’t feel there is any security threat in allowing speedy Syrian refugees.

“Security threat? The only threat I see is the hopes of any other state winning a national title,” he said, high-fiving reporters.

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MONTGOMERY, AL — Alabama governor Robert Bentley reversed his stance today on stopping Syrian refugees from entering the state, saying Alabama would be a “safe harbor to all refugees who prove they can run a sub-4.5 40 and have college eligibility left.” Bentley’s change of mind comes after heavy lobbying efforts from Alabama head coach Nick Saban, the state’s highest-paid employee.

“After careful consideration, I felt that it wasn’t fitting with American ideals to just ban an entire group of people who are being persecuted, no questions asked,” said Gov. Bentley. “Yet there has to be a middle ground. And that middle ground is adding some speed at the skill positions.”

Saban told Bentley in a phone call yesterday that he could take an athletic Syrian who hasn’t been coached any bad habits previously and make him into a contributing player in one year.

“That was all I needed to hear,” said the governor. “If we can open up the recruiting pipeline to Syria, and then to the Middle East and the entire Arab world, Alabama could be the top school for millions of four and five-star kids. Let other states take their best and brightest, or even Syrians who are truly in need, if they want. In Alabama, we’ll focus on the fastest and strongest. We’re not trying to be the world’s savior. We’re trying to win national titles.”

Starting today, Alabama will begin processing Syrian refugees in Tuscaloosa. Men, women and children will be put through an NFL combine-style test to see if they will be allowed permanent entry. All those who don’t pass muster will be sent over the border to Mississippi.

Gov. Bentley insisted that he doesn’t feel there is any security threat in allowing speedy Syrian refugees.

“Security threat? The only threat I see is the hopes of any other state winning a national title,” he said, high-fiving reporters.

After doing research into Alabama, the refugees said "nah, we're good"...


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I still don't understand why Syrian refugees are our problem at all. There are a ton of really rich nations in close proximity to Syria that can handle this if they choose to. Why are we bailing them out when it isn't a problem for us?

Ultimately, ISIS, and other terrorist groups are caused in large part because Islamic states(not the people, but the countries) create an environment that leads to it. Maybe dealing with these refugees will give them a different perspective.





Well Isis is a direct result of George Bush-Iraq fuckup. Who wants to live in Saudi Arabia? There on par with Isis.

Per capita GDP means nothing, What's the unemployment rate in Saudi Arabia? 30% ?

These refugees are going to wait 2 plus years to get in..if A fanatic wants to get in..they can, they aren't waiting 2 years.

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you know, i just wanna toss out something else i heard on some podcast/interview where they were talking about europe's refugeepalooza going on nowadays.

one of the big formal reasons for the immigration/refugeeing/invasion/whatever is that a lot of these european countries cite low birth rates and say that at the rate they're going they're not going to have enough workforce to keep the economy/system going (which i figure has something to do with not enough people paying in enough $$$ to social-security/equivalents to take care of the relatively-massive amount of aging/elderly when all the boomers/next-gen get to be 65-80+) so they HAVE to bring in refugees to supplant the work force and keep things running smoothly because without that influx of workers the system/economy itself will be threatened if/not destroyed!

but uhhhh, in the wake of low birthrates and all.... aren't these guys potentially replacements for the usual indigenous workforce? if you're bringing them at a low point in birthrates assuming X amount of ppl won't be there in 20+ years, what if the birthrates go up in the next 5 years and/or the ppl who come in reproduce more than projected? now you've got more people who need Y number of jobs, and given the trends in production over the last 20-30+ years how do we know that there won't be less jobs to go along with the lowered birthrates since less people need less things? it just seems like you've got a potential problem that assumes two sets of #s in the future and you're trying to proactively solve a problem that doesn't exist yet right now, and if things don't work out 100% as planned you might end up with too many workers and not enough work one way or another.

ah well, if that scenario happens you can just start talking about reparations for the crusades and say "hey white privilege has handed you these cushy middle class jobs for hundreds to thousands of years so now it's your turn to share! NO CRYING! THINK ABOUT HOW LONG YOU GUYS HAVE HAD IT GREAT AT THE EXPENSE OF THESE POOR VICTIMS OF THE CRUSADES!!!" and yeah, shit, it's not like a hallmark card saying "SORRY ABOUT THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE" is going to make up for it, you know?

then in 20+ years i'm sure the new workforce is going to love paying for the old indigenous ppl, as it's assumed these newly imported workers are totally gonna buy into the system and look forward to working hard to foot the bill for the older generation/s of indigenous folk. i certainly can't see any problems where it's like "hey if we have to foot the bill then this is how society is going to be constructed" =D

ah well, likely just infantile blustering/bloviating over here.... but i had never thought of it like "wow, you're basically going out to replace the indigenous workforce/s with imported labor" cuz i wanna believe that all of this stuff is on the up and up and there's genuinely some well-meaning intentions here, even though as my grandfather often told me "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" and all and all it just strikes me like this is just way more cynical and potentially dystopian in nature than i honestly wanna believe. sure there's humanitarianism/philanthropy at the core (or at least formally up front on the outside) but i can't help but think that these endless streams of refugees are "useful idiots" for nefarious sorts who have some grand/er vision of a changing/evolving europe that they've gone out of their way to kick into overdrive cuz ????

anyways time for my bottle and a nap, bbl.

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How are those refugees assimilating into German society?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/06/europe/ge ... ms-length/

The mayor blaming the victims is a nice touch. Somehow when Islam is involved, liberalism gets flipped on its head and SJWs become confused.

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