long time guy wrote:
Darkside wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Darkside wrote:
long time guy wrote:
The CDC could have produced the exact same test that the WHO produced. WHO offered to produce the test but U.S prefers to produce their own. American Exceptionalism
They chose to create their own test kit and there was a defect which caused a further delay.
Let me debunk something else also. This isn't about test 330 million people. This is about having the resources to test those that want to be tested. We don't and won't for awhile.
The CDC doesn't manufacture tests. They would be buying them. The WHO didnt have access to more than 1 million tests. And the WHO themselves said there were no discussions about providing tests to the us.
The WHO has to buy these tests from Germany and there arent nearly enough globally for the us to take kits from countries that needed them much more urgently. Exceptionalism indeed. We reserved them for countries that couldn't produce them. Most of the who tests ended up in iran I believe.
They should have simply used the test provided by the WHO
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In particular, some of the CDC's tests wrongly detected the new coronavirus in samples of laboratory-grade water, one email said, according to The Journal. The email, sent from a CDC official to state public-health-lab officials, said some labs found "sporadic reactivity in the negative control of one of the three assay components."
But the CDC had already sent those kits to state public-health labs and had to retrieve them.In order to "simply use the test provided by the WHO" we would have denied tests to the rest of the world, particularly the underdeveloped world that had no capacity to develop their own. We'd have stolen from Cameroon, Cote d’Ivoire, Congo, Egypt, Ethiopia, Gabon, Ghana, Kenya, Morocco, Nigeria, Tunisia, Uganda, Zambia. Poor countries. Ravaged countries. What would be your headline, honest now, if we'd have taken the lions share of 1 million available tests from places like those?
Allow me to explain this. Rather than use the test they use we decided to create our own test. It was extremely flawed.
We could have had the CDC create the exact same test that the WHO uses. We didn't which created a delay in the availability of the test.
If you think that people just started contracting this you are wrong. There were people that had this in January but how would we know without the availability to test.?
We were so far behind the curve on this that it's scary.
Our test kit was first used successful the week of jan 20. It worked fine. They ramped up production once we confirmed it worked. And it did work.
The problem happened in February. One of three reagents was found to have a manufacturing flaw.
It was not a fault of the test itself. It was a problem with one of the chemicals that go into the test.
If the CDC used the "WHO" design, the same flaw would have been present.
Also, according to the WHO, the US was never without a means of testing.
The WHO would be and probably will be buying our test kits once production is ramped up.
Look, both biden and trump misrepresented the tests.
No matter who was president, we could not build test kits without covid19 RNA, which wasnt available until mid to late january.
If anyone is truly to blame for the delay in creating tests, the real culprit is China who hid the information on this for months.
Again, we can talk about a broader, generic plan for a viral outbreak. As I said we have hundreds of war scenarios we've practiced millions of times, and we can simulate a viral outbreak in computers easily, and test various response scenarios and have a playbook. We didnt.
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bigfan wrote:
Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.