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 Post subject: Re: Chuy Garciacing
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 5:59 pm 
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I thought "no way" Chuy is gonna win this run off. Now I think he's got a puncher's chance. It's gonna be close to 50-50 either way, don't you think?


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 Post subject: Re: Chuy Garciacing
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:09 pm 
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Beardown wrote:
I thought "no way" Chuy is gonna win this run off. Now I think he's got a puncher's chance. It's gonna be close to 50-50 either way, don't you think?


He has a great chance. organize the masses and you can do anything. Doesnt mean its right or even good, but when the people speak, thats the system. Just dont want to see any articles about Chuy not keeping one of his promises to even the smallest neighborhood group.

Now go get those snow plows from Ed Burkes street Chuy!

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 Post subject: Re: Chuy Garciacing
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:30 am 
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rahm ripping chuy for no financial plan.... i couldnt find a fianncial plan on rahm's campaign website.... the issues tab does not address the biggest issue the city faces... just pandering crap to gain votes.... what is rahm's actual fianncial plan to save the city?


Sorry for the past 4 years of presenting balanced budgets and getting pension deals approved with dozens of unions, which help alleviate the future and ongoing financial pressures....

10 days ago Chuy's response to the financial issue was 'I have to do my homework on that one"

Hey, buts its your vote.....CHUY CHUY CHUY.....it's gonna be great!


Rahm's PLAN has led to the city's bond rating being downgraded 5 times in the last 3.5 years.

When you have a minute, explain to the class how much money that costs the taxpayers.

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 Post subject: Re: Chuy Garciacing
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Seacrest wrote:
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billypootons wrote:
rahm ripping chuy for no financial plan.... i couldnt find a fianncial plan on rahm's campaign website.... the issues tab does not address the biggest issue the city faces... just pandering crap to gain votes.... what is rahm's actual fianncial plan to save the city?


Sorry for the past 4 years of presenting balanced budgets and getting pension deals approved with dozens of unions, which help alleviate the future and ongoing financial pressures....

10 days ago Chuy's response to the financial issue was 'I have to do my homework on that one"

Hey, buts its your vote.....CHUY CHUY CHUY.....it's gonna be great!


Rahm's PLAN has led to the city's bond rating being downgraded 5 times in the last 3.5 years.

When you have a minute, explain to the class how much money that costs the taxpayers.


That is one bond rating company who has stated gtime and time again it is ALL due to the pension liability, but I am sure an amazingly succesful guy like you or a guy like Chuy has done his homework on these issues and have a MUCH better plan on what to do at this point....and "it doesnt matter" isnt a plan.

Amazing how much Seacrest doesnt care who wins because he doesnt live in Chicago?

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 Post subject: Re: Chuy Garciacing
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:55 am 
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The only difference between Rahm and Chuy will be the how long until Chicago joins Detroit in bankruptcy. Rahm will kick the can down the road longer, but eventually they'll run out of road and Chicago will go into bankruptcy.

EVERY Chicago pension fund is funded at a lower percentage currently than any of Detroit's funds were when Detroit when into bankruptcy.

Chicago's in far worse shape than Detroit ever was or could be, in terms of pension liabilities.

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Over the last decade each of the ten Chicago-area public employee pension funds reported sharp funding declines, the report said. The average actuarial funded levels, which smooth market results over a period of years, have fallen to 45.5% in 2012 from 74.5% in fiscal 2003. All ten funds are now below 60%, ranging from the Chicago firefighters fund's 24.4% to a high of 59.4% for the CTA fund.


And the actuarial math only gets worse, and gets worse quickly, going forward--as Boomers accelerate retiring and Chicago loses residents and taxpayers.

Rahm will engage in all sorts of chicanery to try to stave off bankruptcy a few more years. Chuy being financially irresponsible will accelerate Chicago's path to fiscal health---by driving Chicago into BR asap.

Also, I think Rahm wants to get back to DC. He might've thought about being Hillary's running mate, now he'll prolly settle for a cabinet position in her Administration.


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 Post subject: Re: Chuy Garciacing
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:59 am 
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Still, one would have expected pension plans to be in bad shape in 2008-2009 at the market bottom, but to be in improved financial health by 2012 after the market bounced back.

If public pension plans are losing ground on their funding status in years when the market is delivering above normal returns, is there any hope for their survival?

The answer is probably not, but if there is a way to save public pension funds, it will require a new political calculus by the two parties most responsible for the current sorry state of affairs: state politicians and government employee unions.

In the current state of political compromise between (mostly Democrat) politicians and unions, politicians vote in favor of generous pension benefits for public employee union members and then union representatives accept under-funding of those pensions. This makes the generous pension benefits seem affordable by hiding the full cost of those giveaways.

Politicians win because they avoid the spending cuts to popular programs or the tax increases necessary to actually pay for the benefits they voted for; union leaders win because they can tell their members about the new pension benefits they secured. Unfortunately, since nothing in life is free, a cost most be paid for these decisions. That cost is the higher probability the public pension fund will collapse under the weight of this under-funding and those public sector union members will lose their pensions.

The deals hinge on a key assumption in the calculation of the cost of any deferred benefit: the expected future return on the invested funds between now and when the benefits are collected. This future expected return on the pension fund investments controls how much money the politicians need to pay into the workers’ pension funds now. A higher assumed rate of return means less money is needed now thanks to all the money the investments are assumed to make in the future.

Right now politicians and union leaders are taking a huge gamble by using expected future rates of return that are much more optimistic than reasonable. The hope is that either investment returns will save the politicians from their irresponsibility and the workers from poverty or that the courts will force states to pay up enough later to keep their promises. Union leaders are accepting such a risk because they see the only alternative to be accepting smaller pensions.



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 Post subject: Re: Chuy Garciacing
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:08 am 
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Hussra, you can drop the pensions are the problem campaign, we all agree. This isn't news. Yet, it needs to be dealt with.

It's the toughest call in government. When you look at the individuals who are recieving these payments you question them simply as 'did you really work for this?" or did you just punch in and do the minimum to get to this point? but the fact remains you owe them the money. I know a couple of government workers who have said, its the reason they stay with the job at this point.

But, reality is coming down the pipe soon and to deal with it at the time that it is due, is just wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: Chuy Garciacing
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:21 am 
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were those funds ever appropriately funded

It seemed to me that we missed many opportunities to use money wisely during the economic boom years prior to 2008.

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 Post subject: Re: Chuy Garciacing
PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:08 am 
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Well it was fun while it lasted.

Poll: Rahm opens up big lead in Chicago runoff

By Steven Shepard

Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s lead over his rival in next week’s mayoral runoff, Cook County Commissioner Jesus “Chuy” Garcia, has swelled to a commanding 28-point advantage, according to a new Chicago Tribune poll released this morning.

Emanuel leads Garcia, 58 percent to 30 percent, according to the poll, which was conducted March 25-29 by APC Research. Nine percent of voters were undecided.

The poll represents a shift toward Emanuel over the past two weeks. In the previous Tribune/APC Research poll, conducted March 6-11, Emanuel led, 51 percent to 37 percent.

The incumbent is propelled by massive margins among white voters, who back him, 72 percent to 25 percent. Emanuel also leads by a nearly-two-to-one margin among black voters, 53 percent to 28 percent. Garcia outpaces Emanuel among Hispanic voters, 52 percent to 36 percent.

A majority of likely voters, 52 percent, now approve of the job Emanuel is doing; just a third disapprove.

Emanuel’s ad campaign appears to have taken a toll on Garcia’s numbers. The challenger’s favorability rating fell from 40 percent earlier this month to just 31 percent in the new poll. Meanwhile, the percentage of likely voters who view him unfavorably rose, from 24 percent to 29 percent.

The poll surveyed 724 likely voters and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.7 percentage points.

The election is April 7. The two candidates will debate for the final time Tuesday night on a public television station in Chicago.

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