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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:12 pm 
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Big "skirt" went to right field with the best of them as well, but never let facts get in the way bigfan.


As did Manny Ramirez and Albert Pujols


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 Post subject: Re: Braun Innocent
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Big "skirt" went to right field with the best of them as well, but never let facts get in the way bigfan.

Then Maybe Frank used PED's?

Why not, every other great HR hitter mentioned I did. Sammy used them, Canseco used them

so, only Frank never used PEDs is the story?

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 Post subject: Re: Braun Innocent
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Big "skirt" went to right field with the best of them as well, but never let facts get in the way bigfan.


As did Manny Ramirez and Albert Pujols

We know Manny used and looking at Pujols these day, he sure looks skinnier .

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 Post subject: Re: Braun Innocent
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Then Maybe Frank used PED's?

Why not, every other great HR hitter mentioned I did.
WRONG.

You mentioned Big Frank, Trout, and Cabrera. Nothing has been proven for any of those three at this point.

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 Post subject: Re: Braun Innocent
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Then Maybe Frank used PED's?

Why not, every other great HR hitter mentioned I did.
WRONG.

You mentioned Big Frank, Trout, and Cabrera. Nothing has been proven for any of those three at this point.


Well of course Frank was clean while all other HR hitters of his ERA are users of PED's, I think thats pretty much a fact.

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 Post subject: Re: Braun Innocent
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Stop talking about Aaron Rodgers' height. He's really really sensitive about it.


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 Post subject: Re: Braun Innocent
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Stop talking about Aaron Rodgers' height. He's really really sensitive about it.

Rodgers, came out of college, not really a strong arm, now has a gun. Funny how that happens.

Musta joined Ballys !

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 Post subject: Re: Braun Innocent
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Can't believe I am coming to the defense of Rodgers, but found this

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QB) Aaron Rodgers - CALIFORNIA (6'2", 223, 4.71)
Strengths: He has outstanding arm strength. Has one of the strongest arms in this year's quarterback class. Shows the ability to make all the necessary throws in the NFL. Has great zip on his deep out route and shows the ability to fit the ball into tight spots. He has terrific fundamentals and mechanics. Also has very good touch and timing. Shows the consistent ability to lay the ball in between the linebackers and safeties in coverage. Impressive deep accuracy. Will also show the ability to take some velocity off of his underneath throws.

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 Post subject: Re: Braun Innocent
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The dude that had is piss, is absolute fucking moron. Braun just blasted him and rightfully so. Also, I heard on ESPN this morning that the guy just brought home the sample, put in a tupperware container and left it on his desk in the basement. :lol:

Oh Hawger :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Braun Innocent
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Brick, there is a report out there that the guy didn't even put it in the fridge. Now, I don't know if that matters or not, but I would think there is a reason they want it refrigerated.


You ever been doused with warm piss?

It stinks!

:lol:

No, and I don't want you telling me some kind of Ugie story either.

:lol: WTF?

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 Post subject: Re: Braun Innocent
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I enjoyed going back and reading rogers park bryan posts in this thread.

When him and BRick go at it, it's like watching two alley cats.

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 Post subject: Re: Braun Innocent
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When him and BRick go at it, it's like watching two alley cats.

Reminds me...you and I haven't had a fight yet. We're due.

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 Post subject: Re: Braun Innocent
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When him and BRick go at it, it's like watching two alley cats.

Reminds me...you and I haven't had a fight yet. We're due.

Nah man, I think I've retired from that stuff. Fighting with RPB took it all out of me. I'm a like a neutered dog at this point.

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 Post subject: Re: Braun Innocent
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When him and BRick go at it, it's like watching two alley cats.

Reminds me...you and I haven't had a fight yet. We're due.

Nah man, I think I've retired from that stuff. Fighting with RPB took it all out of me. I'm a like a neutered dog at this point.

Same here. I'm 40,000 posts in. I think I've contributed enough stupidity.

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 Post subject: Re: Braun Innocent
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Figured you would have liked the tossed pasta salad better , IMU :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Braun Innocent
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Then Maybe Frank used PED's?

Why not, every other great HR hitter mentioned I did.
WRONG.

You mentioned Big Frank, Trout, and Cabrera. Nothing has been proven for any of those three at this point.
Well of course Frank was clean while all other HR hitters of his ERA are users of PED's, I think thats pretty much a fact.
Nothing has been proven on Big Frank, Trout, or Miggy as of yet. You are still wrong sir.

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 Post subject: Re: Braun Innocent
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Nothing has been proven on Big Frank, Trout, or Miggy as of yet. You are still wrong sir.


They're still all suspect.

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 Post subject: Re: Braun Innocent
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immessedup17 wrote:
I enjoyed going back and reading rogers park bryan posts in this thread.

Never said he was innocent. Just that we didnt know he did it.


Anyway you should always go back and read as many of my posts as possible.


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 Post subject: Re: Braun Innocent
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Nothing has been proven on Big Frank, Trout, or Miggy as of yet. You are still wrong sir.


They're still all suspect.

Nope.

Frank said he's anti steroids, so that's that.


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 Post subject: Re: Braun Innocent
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Nothing has been proven on Big Frank, Trout, or Miggy as of yet. You are still wrong sir.


They're still all suspect.


Yeah, just being in a pro sports league puts you on the suspect list, at least as far as the Big 3 go.

As for those players in Franks place or even Miggy, you would have to think that with all the stuff, investigations, books, Congressional hearings etc. etc. etc., there would have been something tying them to PED use. The liars have fallen like domino's over the past decade, something might very well come out and implicate them but nothing has so far.

At some point you have to stop suspecting. I'm not saying it's now but it's soon, especially for the retired ones.


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 Post subject: Re: Braun Innocent
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Nothing has been proven on Big Frank, Trout, or Miggy as of yet. You are still wrong sir.


They're still all suspect.


Yeah, just being in a pro sports league puts you on the suspect list, at least as far as the Big 3 go.

As for those players in Franks place or even Miggy, you would have to think that with all the stuff, investigations, books, Congressional hearings etc. etc. etc., there would have been something tying them to PED use. The liars have fallen like domino's over the past decade, something might very well come out and implicate them but nothing has so far.

At some point you have to stop suspecting. I'm not saying it's now but it's soon, especially for the retired ones.


Frank is, and always has been, pretty damn adamant in his anti-drug stance. But he was a major college football player. That has to make you wonder. Still, his career arc looks very traditional and he isn't half the size he once was now that he isn't playing.

I thought yesterday's transition conversation about why baseball takes so much more heat than football or basketball over the drugs was interesting. bernstein's take is that football players "aren't human". He didn't mention his beloved NBA. I stand by my contention that Americans just care about baseball more. You can say football is "more popular", but it isn't something that is held as deeply as baseball. That's why Mac was confused. He's a guy who really cares more about football. But that puts him in a minority.

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All I said was that nothing has been proven for those 3 guys at this point. That is a fact.

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A lot of poor people are lazy people who are happy to live off government checks and don't provide anything to society. Is it fair to suspect all poor people of being lazy people who are happy to live off government checks?

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A lot of poor people are lazy people who are happy to live off government checks and don't provide anything to society. Is it fair to suspect all poor people of being lazy people who are happy to live off government checks?



Only if they unionize and decide as a collective to put a premium on the interests of the lazy.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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A lot of poor people are lazy people who are happy to live off government checks and don't provide anything to society. Is it fair to suspect all poor people of being lazy people who are happy to live off government checks?



Only if they unionize and decide as a collective to put a premium on the interests of the lazy.


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A lot of poor people are lazy people who are happy to live off government checks and don't provide anything to society. Is it fair to suspect all poor people of being lazy people who are happy to live off government checks?



Only if they unionize and decide as a collective to put a premium on the interests of the lazy.
Well, they do vote for Democrats.

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I'm just surprised how many of you seem to think it's ok to suspect everyone in a group because some people in the group do something.

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I'm just surprised how many of you seem to think it's ok to suspect everyone in a group because some people in the group do something.


My recommendation to everyone else...


Don't take the bait! Resist!


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I'm just surprised how many of you seem to think it's ok to suspect everyone in a group because some people in the group do something.

Thankfully I only suspect Big Frank.


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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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Then Maybe Frank used PED's?

Why not, every other great HR hitter mentioned I did.
WRONG.

You mentioned Big Frank, Trout, and Cabrera. Nothing has been proven for any of those three at this point.
Well of course Frank was clean while all other HR hitters of his ERA are users of PED's, I think thats pretty much a fact.
Nothing has been proven on Big Frank, Trout, or Miggy as of yet. You are still wrong sir.




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I'm just surprised how many of you seem to think it's ok to suspect everyone in a group because some people in the group do something.


My recommendation to everyone else...


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