You dont need to learn anything. Do as you please.

When you talk about the effects of weed though, you come off a little ignorant. You probably wouldnt if you had experience.

If I were you, I would just not speak on it that strongly.

Not asking you to answer for other people. Just don't jump in on my point to someone else and then get mad when I simply explain the relevance of the point. You interjected into it and I explained why I said it.

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That's a shame.

I think I might be the only active member of Team LSD on the board.

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See, non smokers dont know that.

They think you get like that every time you smoke (im exaggerating but it goes to show my point about the perception)

Understood. Thanks for setting me straight.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I'm just trying to respond to what you are saying.



Companies subjecting their employees to drug testing, has nothing to do with whether or not I can drive after smoking a bowl.



Like I said, some people can drive high, and some can't. If somebody can't keep their eyes open, or stand up straight, then they shouldn't drive. I agree with you. You seem to be saying that anybody who smokes, immediately gets to that level.

A person who is stumbling after two beers shouldn't drive, either. We seem to be in agreement on most of this.

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i loathe to set a 'limit' , because obviously legal limits for BAC are moreso based on MADD funding/pressure than actual scientific data....but ok, if you set some limit on it and were able to test for that concentration accurately at roadside, i would be ok with that. What i'm not ok with is arresting someone purely based on the presence of it when that weed could have been consumed many weeks ago, then put the onus on the individual to defend themselves. as FF said , the rich will get off and the poor will plead guilty.
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even that said, i'm still not convinced it's a big of a problem that you're making it out to be and want to see more data indicating that is . you never responded to RPB's post about that it could affect you negatively, yet still not be that big of a problem

You dont have to be like that.

I believe in listening to experts and learning about things before taking strong stances. Not that controversial

I'm pretty much done with drugs. Just beer and weed these days, and an occasional Adderall at a concert, if I need some energy.

Frank and BRick, I am aware that beer and weed are drugs. They aren't on the same scale as hard drugs, so I do not compare them on the same level.

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Even when I take your advice you don't seem to like it.

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Rick, I'm trying to help you. Like RPB said, many of your opinions about drugs come off as a bit ignorant. I'm not trying to be a dick here, just being honest.

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I like you a lot.

I am going to change my posting style accordingly. Thank you.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Ill make you a deal. Ill watch one full Purdue sporting event and you smoke one blunt. We can compare notes!



Kidding, I like you just the way you are

I hear you. It's the only one I'll still do besides weed and alcohol and it's like maybe once a year for a show now.

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BTW, when is hollywood going to get real with weed?

It seems 99% of situations on tv involve The 70's show type stoned out of your mind situation.


That's ridiculous. It would be like thinking every drinker is ripping beer bongs and taking shots of everclear

There is a point where somebody can be too stoned to drive. I believe this to be true, and I believe it cannot be debated.

How to quantify that, I have no idea.



Don't put me into "weed/beer" is a drug category. By definition it sure is. But so is an aspirin. When I hear somebody say "drugs" I'm thinking hard stuff as well like meth, coke, etc. I'm not thinking about a joint, a 6 pack, or a cup of coffee.

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I was thinking while driving back, it's possible we are overstating the difficulty of driving safely. In essence, you're driving in a straight line and not hitting the guy in front of you. It doesn't take an enormous amount of cognitive ability.

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Bagels is putting in work here.

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RIP FF

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Marijuana can stay in your system for up to two weeks. How did they know those drivers were actually high on marijuana?

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I'm sure you could email the author of the article.

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CHUS, come on? Do you really think smoking pot does nothing to increase the chances of an accident? Then you must be smoking some really bad pot....

and from the study you posted...

“Drivers should never get behind the wheel impaired, and we know that marijuana impairs judgment, reaction times and awareness.”

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My thoughts have been clear in this thread. Some people can handle it, and some can't.

You guys should take it up with the author. Don't shoot the messenger.

Here is her twitter feed: https://twitter.com/CarimahWheat

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There's been studies that claim stoned driving increases chances of accident two fold. Alcohol increases 12 fold.

So I'm fine with this as long as the punishment is a traffic citation because it's a lot less dangerous to drive stoned than it is to talk on the phone.

As long as the punishment fits the crime.

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Dont drive then[/quote]

ive done that. it is a completely surreal experience. it is 100% nothing but a video game. you think youre in one. there is absolutely no connection to whats really happening either. sure, you might get where you need to go OK, but theres is a lot greater chance youre gonna fuck up because you feel as worried as if you were playing a video game. like crashing wont matter because you can just reset. it was incredibly stupid, although a hell of a lot of fun.

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the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

I would say that is a terrible way to describe an acid trip.

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ive done that. it is a completely surreal experience. it is 100% nothing but a video game. you think youre in one. there is absolutely no connection to whats really happening either. sure, you might get where you need to go OK, but theres is a lot greater chance youre gonna fuck up because you feel as worried as if you were playing a video game. like crashing wont matter because you can just reset. it was incredibly stupid, although a hell of a lot of fun.[/quote]
Bad quote there. I never tripped acid