Freedom is a bitch.

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I'm totally cool with them dropping the anthem before sporting events anyway.

Whether people agree or do not agree with Kaepernick's decision to not stand during the National Anthem, I think we can all agree that his actions will result in dramatic change.

Jimmy, I don't think you meant this literally, did you?

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What does Bernstein think?

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That every second Kaepernick spends sitting down is time that should be spent damaging his brain for the amusement of Dan and his children.

My point is I don't believe that the National Anthem is a place to prove a point or protest. There are other options a guy with 114 mil can take to get his voice heard.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Love it or leave it is very un-American

Dead on, love your freedom, just be sure to express it in a manner deemed appropriate by others.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

Yep... make fun of the guy all you want, but save the "you should like it here or find another country" stuff. I think Tad's point that this won't actually accomplish anything is probably true, but the dude has the right to do it.

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The dude has the right to incite a crowd of 60,000 people? What happens of some "patriots" leap out of the stands to make their point with Kap? A riot can break out.

New NFL POLICY : Everybody Stands!

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Any other edicts Comrade Pasta?


The military vets you claim to respect so much fought and many died to protect the very freedom this db is using.


I'm continually amazed at how the people who wave the flag the most are so against the ideals this country was founded on.

That's beautiful and I will now change my mind....

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Who would be the "other attorneys" of your metaphor when at the ballpark? The other people at their seats, the PA system, America? I would be fine with not shaking hands with America at a business meeting, because odds are they have fucked me, are about to fuck me, and/or are in the process of extrajudicially killing people.

I don't stand for the anthem, and I particularly enjoy being the only one in a throng of people in the stands not standing, mostly because I too see it as a figurative handshake with "America", the construct and all the actions of its physical manifestations, and that is something I don't feel comfortable engaging with.

Many people focused on how well Kaepernicks life has gone like he has no right to speak on oppression


Can I not speak out against rape or human trafficking because I've never been a victim if either?

I understand what you are saying but a guy with his cash can do plenty with in the community to find solutions. I know it's a free country and he has rights,I just get angry when anyone disrespects the flag. That's just me.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

It's the sad, desperate, "what team did you play for" rebuttal of sports talk.

Totally agree, except I do stand. Don't take my hat off, but I do stand.

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Sitting is just his way of putting in more time what he'll see during the season

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Pretty much, old man. Pretty much.

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Based on what he said it is accurate. It's ok to say that maybe you should find some place better if you are saying what he does.

When someone complains about the state of Illinois plenty of people say to find another state. Somehow when a millionaire athlete has no pride in this country it becomes some un-American thing to say maybe find a better country.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

It's more about how he said he has no pride in this country.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

You be you, guy. But don't get upset when millions of others think you are an unmannered boor.

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Ecclesiastes 5:8

Kaepernick can speak on whatever he wants, but it doesn't take a genius to grasp why he is easily dismissed on this subject.

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Ecclesiastes 5:8

Then his attackers/rioters would be in the wrong. Come on, jimmy.

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Ecclesiastes 5:8

This.

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Which parts of America do you feel comfortable engaging with? The parts that get you fat on cheap fast food, allow you easy access to reasonably priced big screen televisions, and provide you with a platform to blab nonsensically on a message board on a daily basis?

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Ecclesiastes 5:8

I... Uh... What?

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All of it.

USA!

USA!

USA!

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