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I want to acknowledge that she is no less than our equal on this Woman's Equality Day.

Congratulations being the equal of such luminaries!


Um, I'm equal to some, but better than most of you. I've always known it. Thanks for trying though.

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I remember this one chick from college who was a complete fucking psycho. We were sitting for dinner at Palmer's Place with a fully packed back area of the restaurant. I was talking with my girlfriend and started quoting Cartman, "get in the kitchen..." She gets up, walks over to me and slaps me in the face. Everyone turns and looks. I was like, what the fuck was that for? Thankfully she left. Women are fucking crazy. Spaulding is pretty cool though.

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I'm just happy to be here to help the team.

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I remember this one chick from college who was a complete fucking psycho. We were sitting for dinner at Palmer's Place with a fully packed back area of the restaurant. I was talking with my girlfriend and started quoting Cartman, "get in the kitchen..." She gets up, walks over to me and slaps me in the face. Everyone turns and looks. I was like, what the fuck was that for? Thankfully she left. Women are fucking crazy. Spaulding is pretty cool though.

You forgot the part where you wanted to get crazy girl's number.

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I remember this one chick from college who was a complete fucking psycho. We were sitting for dinner at Palmer's Place with a fully packed back area of the restaurant. I was talking with my girlfriend and started quoting Cartman, "get in the kitchen..." She gets up, walks over to me and slaps me in the face. Everyone turns and looks. I was like, what the fuck was that for? Thankfully she left. Women are fucking crazy. Spaulding is pretty cool though.

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"It does not account for differences in occupations, positions, education, job tenure or hours worked per week. When such relevant factors are considered, the wage gap narrows to the point of vanishing."

This is what you posted. It literally says there is a gap.


Yeah, and who knows what might account for said statistically insignificant "gap"? Would you feel better if women made a fraction of a cent more? Because I'm sure we're headed there.


Here you go again trying to shift the debate instead of just admitting that you were wrong. How about them making the same as men? No one has argued they should make more. You've argued that there was no gap but even the article you posted acknowledges that a gap exists.

I just read that entire article and it made me sick.


"....the same....."

So we should make a law that completely disregards performance, experience, education levels etc etc etc? Just....wave the magic wand and POOF everyone makes the same!

Hey maybe that 2% difference is due to the female candidate not being more effective or direct when asking for a raise or higher starting salary?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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"It does not account for differences in occupations, positions, education, job tenure or hours worked per week. When such relevant factors are considered, the wage gap narrows to the point of vanishing."

This is what you posted. It literally says there is a gap.


Yeah, and who knows what might account for said statistically insignificant "gap"? Would you feel better if women made a fraction of a cent more? Because I'm sure we're headed there.


Here you go again trying to shift the debate instead of just admitting that you were wrong. How about them making the same as men? No one has argued they should make more. You've argued that there was no gap but even the article you posted acknowledges that a gap exists.

I just read that entire article and it made me sick.


I posted it. I know what it said. There could be any number of things that account for a statistically insignificant "gap" in wages between the sexes. or do you expect that woman and men are always going to receive the exact same pay? That's kind of silly, not to mention impossible. And when women are on the plus side, which is bound to happen, you- and a million other "feminists"- won't be going around talking about a wage gap at all or you'll still be lying about 77 cents.

Also, I'm sorry that a woman having an opinion different than yours and backing it up with real facts and research "makes you sick".


There is a gap between 2-23%. I know a woman wrote it and her excuse making still made me sick. This isn't 1956.


The gap isn't between 2% and 23% and even if it is, that's not the 77% that "feminists" including the next president constantly say it is. What does "it's not 1956" even mean? That in 2016 lies are okay if they push some agenda you support? Finally, Christina Hoff Sommers isn't some fire-breathing right-wing lunatic. She's a classical liberal feminist. I'm sorry you have an issue with a strong woman not named Hillary speaking her mind.


You know sometimes I think you just want to argue and you aren't even sure what you're arguing.

Women have said they make $.77 for every $1 a man makes for doing the same job. I've heard others say that it is about $.90 and today I saw SomeGuy and Christina Sommers say it's $.98. That means women make anywhere from 2% to 23% less than men for doing the same job. You say there is no gap (even though you posted an article acknowledging a gap) and then you come back and say a 2% gap is insignificant.

If we use the median income of $53k and deduct 2% from it that would be a little more than $1k a year less that a woman would make. I imagine that you wouldn't want to lose $1k a year and I don't blame you.

I don't know Christina Sommers. She could be my grandmother or 1 of my daughters and my opinion of that article would not change. She didn't really provide facts. She dismissed serious issues because she believed the numbers were off.

A study of 2 large college campuses said 2/5 of women are sexually assaulted in college. Because the study didn't include things she considered to be important she dismissed it. Who gives a fuck if it's 1 out of 10 or 1 out of 100 (she didn't use those numbers) we should all be able to agree that it's too high.

She looked at ER visits by women and dismissed the statistic because of the formula used. Even though she acknowledged that 500,000 women go to the ER every year because of domestic violence.

Then she dismissed sex trafficking because she believed it was hundreds and not thousands and boys are likely included in the hundreds.

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Nas wrote:
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"It does not account for differences in occupations, positions, education, job tenure or hours worked per week. When such relevant factors are considered, the wage gap narrows to the point of vanishing."

This is what you posted. It literally says there is a gap.


Yeah, and who knows what might account for said statistically insignificant "gap"? Would you feel better if women made a fraction of a cent more? Because I'm sure we're headed there.


Here you go again trying to shift the debate instead of just admitting that you were wrong. How about them making the same as men? No one has argued they should make more. You've argued that there was no gap but even the article you posted acknowledges that a gap exists.

I just read that entire article and it made me sick.


"....the same....."

So we should make a law that completely disregards performance, experience, education levels etc etc etc? Just....wave the magic wand and POOF everyone makes the same!

Hey maybe that 2% difference is due to the female candidate not being more effective or direct when asking for a raise or higher starting salary?

Oh the mystery within!


I'm pretty sure the formula used to reduce the gap down to 2% took all of those things into consideration except the will to ask for a raise.

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Nas wrote:
Women have said they make $.77 for every $1 a man makes for doing the same job.


And that's a lie.

Nas wrote:
I've heard others say that it is about $.90 and today I saw SomeGuy and Christina Sommers say it's $.98. That means women make anywhere from 2% to 23% less than men for doing the same job. You say there is no gap (even though you posted an article acknowledging a gap) and then you come back and say a 2% gap is insignificant.


I tried to explain that to you. Someguy tried to explain that to you.

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I don't know Christina Sommers. She could be my grandmother or 1 of my daughters and my opinion of that article would not change. She didn't really provide facts. She dismissed serious issues because she believed the numbers were off.


I told who she was. And what she did was destroy the "facts" that these repeated myths are based upon. You seem to think lies and bullshit are justified if they help achieve some end.

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A study of 2 large college campuses said 2/5 of women are sexually assaulted in college. Because the study didn't include things she considered to be important she dismissed it. Who gives a fuck if it's 1 out of 10 or 1 out of 100 (she didn't use those numbers) we should all be able to agree that it's too high.


You don't seem to understand that with the things they are classifying as "rape" or "sexual assault", it's likely that you or I and every other straight male might be considered rapists. You act is if Hoff Sommers was advocating for rape. It's really terrible that so many people want to push a political agenda so hard that they can lie and make shit up so easily.

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I said there was a gap. I know it's as small as 2% and as great as 23%. This entire debate started because you said there wasn't a gap.

She didn't destroy any facts. She dismissed serious issues because the numbers may or may not be off. Maybe the number of women who are sexually assaulted on a college campus is 1/10. That's still too many. We shouldn't get upset because it isn't 20% of all college women. If 312player's wife says he slaps her 6 days a week but in reality he slaps her 3 days. We shouldn't be pissed that it's half the amount she said. We should all be in agreement that 3 days is too much.

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I said there was a gap. I know it's as small as 2% and as great as 23%. This entire debate started because you said there wasn't a gap.

She didn't destroy any facts. She dismissed serious issues because the numbers may or may not be off. Maybe the number of women who are sexually assaulted on a college campus is 1/10. That's still too many. We shouldn't get upset because it isn't 20% of all college women. If 312player's wife says he slaps her 6 days a week but in reality he slaps her 3 days. We shouldn't be pissed that it's half the amount she said. We should all be in agreement that 3 days is too much.





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I said there was a gap. I know it's as small as 2% and as great as 23%. This entire debate started because you said there wasn't a gap.

She didn't destroy any facts. She dismissed serious issues because the numbers may or may not be off. Maybe the number of women who are sexually assaulted on a college campus is 1/10. That's still too many. We shouldn't get upset because it isn't 20% of all college women. If 312player's wife says he slaps her 6 days a week but in reality he slaps her 3 days. We shouldn't be pissed that it's half the amount she said. We should all be in agreement that 3 days is too much.


What I said was that any gap is so insignificant there is no way to know the reasons behind it. There will never be a time when men and women are paid exactly the same amount to the cent. It will always be slightly off one way or the other. With so many more women getting college educations than men, it will soon be the other way around and I will not be telling you there is a "wage gap" with men on the short end. (See Someguy's post above.) Women are not being paid less than men for the same work. It just isn't really happening.

I don't know what the number of women assaulted on colleges campuses is. One is too many. But we both know the point of making up these numbers isn't really about eliminating sexual assault at all. It's about female empowerment and the dismantling of "The Patriarchy".

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I said there was a gap. I know it's as small as 2% and as great as 23%. This entire debate started because you said there wasn't a gap.

She didn't destroy any facts. She dismissed serious issues because the numbers may or may not be off. Maybe the number of women who are sexually assaulted on a college campus is 1/10. That's still too many. We shouldn't get upset because it isn't 20% of all college women. If 312player's wife says he slaps her 6 days a week but in reality he slaps her 3 days. We shouldn't be pissed that it's half the amount she said. We should all be in agreement that 3 days is too much.





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Match?

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I said there was a gap. I know it's as small as 2% and as great as 23%. This entire debate started because you said there wasn't a gap.

She didn't destroy any facts. She dismissed serious issues because the numbers may or may not be off. Maybe the number of women who are sexually assaulted on a college campus is 1/10. That's still too many. We shouldn't get upset because it isn't 20% of all college women. If 312player's wife says he slaps her 6 days a week but in reality he slaps her 3 days. We shouldn't be pissed that it's half the amount she said. We should all be in agreement that 3 days is too much.


What I said was that any gap is so insignificant there is no way to know the reasons behind it. There will never be a time when men and women are paid exactly the same amount to the cent. It will always be slightly off one way or the other. With so many more women getting college educations than men, it will soon be the other way around and I will not be telling you there is a "wage gap" with men on the short end. (See Someguy's post above.) Women are not being paid less than men for the same work. It just isn't really happening.

I don't know what the number of women assaulted on colleges campuses is. One is too many. But we both know the point of making up these numbers isn't really about eliminating sexual assault at all. It's about female empowerment and the dismantling of "The Patriarchy".


I think numbers may be exaggerated to shine a light on a serious issue.

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Nas wrote:
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I said there was a gap. I know it's as small as 2% and as great as 23%. This entire debate started because you said there wasn't a gap.

She didn't destroy any facts. She dismissed serious issues because the numbers may or may not be off. Maybe the number of women who are sexually assaulted on a college campus is 1/10. That's still too many. We shouldn't get upset because it isn't 20% of all college women. If 312player's wife says he slaps her 6 days a week but in reality he slaps her 3 days. We shouldn't be pissed that it's half the amount she said. We should all be in agreement that 3 days is too much.


What I said was that any gap is so insignificant there is no way to know the reasons behind it. There will never be a time when men and women are paid exactly the same amount to the cent. It will always be slightly off one way or the other. With so many more women getting college educations than men, it will soon be the other way around and I will not be telling you there is a "wage gap" with men on the short end. (See Someguy's post above.) Women are not being paid less than men for the same work. It just isn't really happening.

I don't know what the number of women assaulted on colleges campuses is. One is too many. But we both know the point of making up these numbers isn't really about eliminating sexual assault at all. It's about female empowerment and the dismantling of "The Patriarchy".


I think numbers may be exaggerated to shine a light on a serious issue.


But lying about those numbers hurts your credibility. When we are talking about college campus assaults, credibility of the victims is all they usually have. Lying about stats and things like the Kane case are bigger blows to helping the real victims than some vague "light being shined on a situation".

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Can't we all just get along?


I think my edit works better now.

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I said there was a gap. I know it's as small as 2% and as great as 23%. This entire debate started because you said there wasn't a gap.

She didn't destroy any facts. She dismissed serious issues because the numbers may or may not be off. Maybe the number of women who are sexually assaulted on a college campus is 1/10. That's still too many. We shouldn't get upset because it isn't 20% of all college women. If 312player's wife says he slaps her 6 days a week but in reality he slaps her 3 days. We shouldn't be pissed that it's half the amount she said. We should all be in agreement that 3 days is too much.


What I said was that any gap is so insignificant there is no way to know the reasons behind it. There will never be a time when men and women are paid exactly the same amount to the cent. It will always be slightly off one way or the other. With so many more women getting college educations than men, it will soon be the other way around and I will not be telling you there is a "wage gap" with men on the short end. (See Someguy's post above.) Women are not being paid less than men for the same work. It just isn't really happening.

I don't know what the number of women assaulted on colleges campuses is. One is too many. But we both know the point of making up these numbers isn't really about eliminating sexual assault at all. It's about female empowerment and the dismantling of "The Patriarchy".


I think numbers may be exaggerated to shine a light on a serious issue.


But lying about those numbers hurts your credibility. When we are talking about college campus assaults, credibility of the victims is all they usually have. Lying about stats and things like the Kane case are bigger blows to helping the real victims than some vague "light being shined on a situation".


I disagree. The seriousness of rape shouldn't be dismissed because some girls/women lie or because it's 10% of college women instead of 20%. It boils my blood when people dismiss issues because the people or the math isn't perfect.

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I disagree. The seriousness of rape shouldn't be dismissed because some girls/women lie or because it's 10% of college women instead of 20%. It boils my blood when people dismiss issues because the people or the math isn't perfect.



I agree. Every woman and man in America should be infuriated at false rape reports. It gives the real predators something to fall back on...

Lying about the math isn't as bad as that but it's still damaging. Headline shouts out 'ONE IN FIVE...'. Then a study comes out that says its 'ONE IN TEN'. One in a million is too many but when you do things intentionally like fudge numbers and lie, you give the bad guys the leverage that they need for reasonable doubt when they are actually caught.

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Congratulations being the equal of such luminaries!


wait, spaulding's a WOMAN?! i always thought that we were all women tbh, you know, something to do with our "yenta game" =D

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Congratulations being the equal of such luminaries!


wait, spaulding's a WOMAN?! i always thought that we were all women tbh, you know, something to do with our "yenta game" =D



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