Warmer season holiday aspect should actually lower the ratings. Again none of this should matter since no one Ever cares about the NBA.

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Stop lying. Of course eople care about the NBA. MORE people care about the NFL. That is what I have said all along, and that is a fact. Deal with it.

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Yes I did and it should be. You are moving the goalposts by placing all of these qualifiers in there.

My point is that McNeil rarely if ever believes that its necessary to talk NBA. People on here for the most part have said that is fine and they have used ratings as justification. They are on the wrong side of current trends.


NBA ratings are up across the board.

NFL offseason talk shouldn't take precedent over NBA talk unless there is something significant to report.

Odell Beckham and whether he may go on the block doesn't quite qualify as that for me.

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And you're on the wrong side of this thread and argument in general.

Smell ya later.

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Now you are moving goalposts again. The numbers say more don't care about the NFL offseason.

You deal with it since you are the one thats wrong.

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More sports fans that call into sports radio care about the NFL offseason around the draft than care about a regular season NBA game.

And that makes sense. People call in to talk about what their team should do to improve. They don't (or at least haven't) call up to discuss the Scaramento-Minnesota game last night.

Especially here.

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NFL offseason encompasses more than just the draft though. The draft is a minute portion of the offseason. People should talk draft. McNeil and others on here argued that NBA playoffs aren't of interest to anyone and they are flat wrong.

NBA ratings are on a major uptick and that is going to continue as their fans tend to comprise the youngest of the demographics. Can't keep ignoring it.


Are more people going to be interested in the NFL in late may early June than the NBA. McNeil and others would tell you yes and they'd be wrong.

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To people who hate the NBA, yes.

To the average sports fan, no.

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What the fuck are you talking about?

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Finally white male fans come together behind the league where everybody stands for the anthem.

Why can't the local talk shows just talk more NBA playoffs, especially the deeper its goes? They clearly have no issue talking NFL at any point of the off-season.

Right now, the Score barely talks White Sox, Bulls or Blackhawks; it seems to be pretty much Cubs talk. In a Chicago market, they deserve a lot of the coverage, but I would be all for more NBA conversation.

The NBA is more likely to get conversation when free agency begins that they are for Game 7's or NBA Finals discussion. While I am interested in the free agency (even though the Bulls appear to be committed to having a middle of the road type team), it does seem short-sighted (and wrong) to not discuss these games more.

McNeil is an entertaining host, but I don't think his depth of knowledge, in any sport, is more than average.

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Ok. Last night's game. Was 13% Higher than the Cavs Celts game from the night before. Which "polarizing" player caused this to happen?

http://deadline.com/2018/05/warriors-wi ... 202398890/

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Also if there is something major in the NFL involving one of its stars then it absolutely should be covered. That's breaking news and its fine to do that.

The possibility that the Giants might place Beckham on the market doesn't quite qualify as that though and too often in my Dan McNeil listening experience he has used bullshit like that to justify not covering a sport that he has no use for.

The fact of the matter is that there are millions of people in America and millions in the Chicagoland area that actually like the NBA. Doesn't mattter if the Bulls are good either. Thats another score misnomer. People actually follow the league too.

The problem that I've found is that the vast majority of hosts have never been particularly knowledgeable about it, Spiegs in fact was but most weren't. Others simply didn't care about it and attempted to use ratings as an excuse not to talk about it.

In my opinion you can't ignore it if you are going to be on the cutting edge of where the couhtry happens to be. NBA ratings up across the board.

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it somewhat boggles the mind that anyone could argue that statement. yet, you have LTG arguing about what fans SHOULD care about.... LTG prefers equal treatment of all sports... go back to russia you communist.

LTG prefers arguing nonsense and statements that are simply not true. It's my fault for even engaging him again.

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Equal treatment? I provided the #s. Numbers suggest otherwise.

People wanted to discuss #s until they didn't of course.

To change direction mid stream is a board statement. I'm not arguing what people should care about i'm actually telling you what people care about and you are ignoring it.

I was told by board intelligentsia (Frank included) that no one cares about the NBA. The numbers suggest otherwise. Pd.

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Say it aint so Frank. You don't want me to delve into those White Sox or Big Fan threads in order to define what constitutes nonsense?

I'm actually talking about content. Radio content. I'm about to turn on McNeil and get my out of season football fix. The same tired fix that he has provided for 20+ years and you wonder why Speigs referred to him as a dinosaur.

This is sort of what he is talking about.

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Wouldn't that lend credence to the theory that sports radio listeners want to talk about football even in late May?

He's been successful for 25 years when others have failed.

Parkins is an NBA guy though so I'm sure he'll have basketball thoughts.

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You misconstrued the point which means you have only listenened to the misinformation provided by Frank. Its not about coverage of Football vs Basketball.

Its about incessant coverage of an out of season sport (which Dan McNeil champions) over that of an in season sport that happens to be the 2nd most popular by the way.

This aint Hockey, another of the sports that McNeil prefers to cover over basketball.

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He was successful during a time when basketball wasn't as popular. It is now and to be honest they all were covering it non stop so it wasn't like there was much in the way of variation.

He wasn't much of an alternative as they all did it.

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Surprised to see the ratings between the conferences. I'm curious how much this Bron GOAT narrative is just a push by the NBA to make both conferences relevant. Soon the greatest will be 3-6 in final appearances. Maybe next year when he hand picks his third different team he will have enough talent to compete for a title.

no, you were told MORE PEOPLE care about the NFL than NBA. including the bold part of what you just replied too.

No that was never my argument and you aren't going to reshape it simply because you happen to be wrong.

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Wrong. Here is the original point.

viewtopic.php?f=128&t=111647

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I can’t imagine a less interesting sports topic to argue about than tv ratings.

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White Sox attendance?

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Twitter ramblings of Julie Dicaro?

No its necessary if the "Fuck the NBA" crowd is going to be effectively invalidated.

It bums the shit out of them that people actually like the NBA. Time to repudiate some of that.

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This is par for the course, so to speak. Frank is allowed to bark at people all day and no one cares. But then someone has the guts to confront the anti NBA crowd and all hell breaks loose. The proverbial message board police come out in full force. I wont be silence on the topic and I wont just go into the corner and shut up. I have been calling this shit since day 1 and no one else has the guts to even mention it. Ill be here all day if needed.