The playoffs take forever because the NBA puts days off and sometimes multiple days off between games in the first two rounds. There are no back-to-backs. It's a ridiculous that a first round series can take over 2 weeks to finish.

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I agree on the over emphasis placed on 3 point shooting. I don't like it either. I disagree about "players not trying hard". Guys in the NBA compete.

Is there anything more disinteresting than watching late season NFL games for teams that have nothing to play for? No one mails it in the manner in which they NFL teams do. Its blowout city.

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That's not really true either. You can't really half ass it in the NFL without potentially getting your head taken off.

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Don't you think that would just be a waste of time? The thing that makes the NCAA Tournament interesting is that anyone can upset anyone in a single game and then that's that. There's no way the Bulls could beat Philadelphia in a 5 game or 7 game series. Just no way.

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They play back-to-back's all throughout the season. I understand if the series wants a travel day when the series moves to the other city, but 2 or 3 days off in a row in the first round is ridiculous.

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That too.

Also a problem in baseball, imo. Baseball playoffs should be the same as the reg season. One day off per series AT THE MOST.


Make teams use their #4 starter.

I assumed he meant single game elimination when he said NCAA style.

A single game elimination tournament for the NBA playoffs would be fucking awesome. Of course money will prevent it from ever being considered but it would be great.

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They should shorten the best of during the first 2 rounds. 1st round series should be out of three with the 2nd round best of 5. That would add to the level of intrigue and make it a shorter playoff season. For all of the predictability that people complain about i think the same people would complain if the top two teams happened to not make the finals each and every year too.

People for the most part prefer to see the best two teams fight it out as opposed to Cinderella. Lakers/Celtics is still by far the most compelling series/rivalry of the past 40 years in the NBA. You knew they were going to be there every year yet no one cared because they were generally speaking the top two teams.

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travel days off but that's it

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Late season basketball generally sucks. I think it would create more interest and stop some teams from tanking. It's highly unlikely that the Bulls could beat the Sixers in a series but any team can win 1 game. Every year you would have teams from the bottom 1/3 of the league upsetting some elite teams.

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By Nov. I can provide 6-8 teams that will have simply checked out.

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Nah rosters are so competitive in the NFL the guys play all out every game.

Cleveland Browns went 0-16 last year. Yeah they sure played balls out all year didn't they?

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It seems like people feel that letting more teams into the playoffs is a good idea (generally). Note the obsession on bubble teams for NCAA basketball and football. But letting more teams in diminishes the value of the regular season. RPB is right in that the answer is four teams per conference for the NBA playoffs. Same thing for hockey.

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The main 2 reasons that they added more teams to the playoffs were increased revenue and increased level of interest. If they decreased the number of teams that make it then there'd be more teams that have nothing to play for. If you have more teams that miss the playoffs then you'd have less interest among their fans and more of an incentive to tank.

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I think that would be cool, but you would definitely get complaints about how the "best" team didn't win on the occasions when upsets occured. Which raises the question- what is the point of a sports league/championship system, to determine the objectively "best" team beyond a shadow of a doubt or to entertain the customers?

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For me its to objectively determine the best team without a shadow of a doubt. It doesn't bother me to know if the two best teams are predetermined. Nothing worse than watching championship competition that doesn't involve the best two or two of the best 3 teams.

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It should obviously be the latter, right? That's inherent to the idea of a sporting league to begin with.

I wouldn't care too much if there were complaints though. You already get those type of complaints with the NFL when Eli manages to win a SB with a 9-7 team that looks like dogshit compared to other SB winning rosters and they don't seem to affect much.

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Yes. The final 2-3 minutes of MANY games in the NBA game which take nearly 30 minutes in real time to play out because of foul, time out, foul, foul, timeout, foul, etc.


The off days in MLB, NHL, and NBA playoffs are a big problem. There is simply no reason to be playing hockey or basketball in June, or baseball in November.

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NFL games take a week off between games and 2 weeks off to play the Super Bowl.

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Little bit tougher sport to just put the pads back on the next day for a back to back.

The two week wait before the SB is awful though, and just as bad as the NBA playoff days off.

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They should get rid of the two-week Super Bowl thing, I agree.

The problem in the NBA is that it has the fewest players on the court for any major game and if that team doesn't have two GREAT players on that court, they have literally no chance to win a championship. And with the advent of players deciding where they are going to mate up with another great player or two in order to win a championship, then the great majority of teams do not have a chance to win one.

I think eventually, pro basketball will reach a point where attendance is really going to plunge. What is the incentive for fans in the majority of the cities in this country to come out and watch their team have no chance to win against teams like the Warriors? At those prices? It doesn't make sense to me.

I pretty much stopped watching pro basketball when Lebron "took his talents" to Miami in the farce of a show highlighting it. When ridiculously paid, egotistical athletes rule the game, the fan gets shit on.

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I certainly think so, but not everyone agrees. See LTG above and listen to Dan Bernstein who has expressed dismay over the "randomness" of the MLB playoffs when they failed to yield the champion he believed to be the "best team". I mean, if the team that seems obviously best wins the championship every time, what's the point of playing or watching?

There's an interesting debate going on in harness racing right now over the best post position being awarded to the winner of an elimination. That's a serious problem for the bettor/customer who has little interest in a 1/9 shot off the rail. Of course the owners/breeders/trainers of the best horses love to be 1/9 off the rail. But it's killing the sport. And what about the poor guy who draws the 8-hole in the elimination? Where is his relief? So the best horse often gets lucky in the elim draw, gets the two or three hole, wins easily and now is rewarded with the rail for the final. It makes for a boring final that the customer doesn't want to watch. Now that sports betting is legal and soon to be available everywhere, you would think the powers that be in harness racing would be cognizant that they need to put out an interesting product. But no, the guys on top with the big horses are grabbing with both hands and the sport is on life support. Legalized sports betting is likely to be the nail in the coffin.

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You didn't say anything about the length of game. You asked if there was "anything more disinteresting than watching late season NFL games" because of blowouts (which rarely happen). I gave you an example of something far more boring than a December NFL game. Of course, you ignore it and move the goalpost though.

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You gave your opinion and I provided mine. Fourth quarter NFL games take forever to end as well. Guys running out of bounds. Quarterbacks spiking the ball etc. Games drag on too. As Far as Disinterest goes the NFL had one team which won 0 games and another that won only 3. The NBA didn't have won team which had a lower winning % than either of those teams yet for some reason you find that "compelling".


As far as the same team thing goes New England had been at the top of NFL for the past 15 years or so. Even when they don't win most people expect them too yet you rarely if ever had heard anyone on here complain about it. The vaunted Golden State run has only been a 4 year thing relatively speaking. No NBA team has been atop the league for the amount of time that New England has controlled the NFL.

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No. You asked if there was anything more boring than a late season NFL game, and I gave a concrete example of something that was. You've danced around it since.

The NBA had ONE team who we all knew was going to win the Finals before the season even began. Real exciting stuff there.

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I just provided an NFL example which sort of flew right by you unsurprisingly. Guys running out of bounds to stop the clock and quarterbacks spiking the ball in order to stop the clock is no different than guys fouling at the end of games. You like one sport and hate the other so it doesn't bother you.

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