D = Good
R = BAD!

Why is the feeling that it is a political issue in that way? It seems most of the Democratic elected officials want to stay locked down. I'm not entirely sure of their motives but it really doesn't matter, I assume they are pure. Right or wrong Republicans seem to want to open back up but (mostly) they did go along with the shut things down for the last 6 weeks or so. There are middle of the road and Democratic voters that are on side of opening back up. My feeling is anybody that wants to stay in their house can but it shouldn't be mandated for anybody that doesn't at this point. We're beyond that. This isn't sustainable.

One of the largest suppliers of for groceries, restaurants, and chains, came out today said the supply chain is breaking. You are already seeing it in other countries and their response. Countries aren't exporting food and things like wheat are being hoarded. We are going to be is some serious trouble if we are shut down for the next 6 weeks if we aren't already in some serious trouble. It has nothing to do with being a D or R or I or whatever you want to label people as. "Industries" need to open back up in some capacity. We can't just stay in the house for another 6 weeks. It's not a political or government rights issue and it's not about power.

You are a Trump voter. You already support the PROC. Clown.

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You're completely missing the point due to the convenient blinders you always sport. I mentioned above that I rarely comment on the meat of the issue because 1. It doesn't really effect my day to day life, and 2. I freely admitted that this freaked me out about a month ago and I came to grips with the fact that no one knows wtf they're talking about here and that it's completely counterproductive to bitch about it. It's changing by the week, leading to idiots suggesting that bleach, heat, sunlight and heart attack inducing drugs were the key to defeating the former hoax.

Or that McCormick place was necessary. And that the shutdown IS excessive in many places. There's a balance between public health and rights, despite whatever the goofs from the cheap seats and with no skin in the game wail about.

I'm just sick of all the know it alls, extremists and hypocrites around here droning about it.

There's seemingly an answer to this, but it's somewhere in the middle. And the golfers, workout warriors and hypocrites on both sides can't grasp this simple fact as far as I can see.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

Then you have clearly been too busy posting your partisan bullshit to realize that this golfer is in the middle of things, and I have been for some time now.

AND IT SHALL REMAIN THAT WAY.

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Explain to me why McCormick place was necessary to anyway besides Walsh construction. The time and effort waster would have been better spent bringing a recently downsized hospital back up to full speed . It serviced what 20-40 people? Come on man. The shut down was needed but there come a point when we have to take a risk and open back up, Pritzger has no authority under the constitution to extend it past 30 days anyway,he needs approval of the legislature. Why does he not call them into session. He has that power,why not use it? Yeah see you are fine with everything being fucked up because it does not effect you. So you can comment from your high horse and call the rest of us ignorant rubes,fuck you.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

You respond to an accusation of being a partisan hack by... attacking Trump.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

One. Trick.Pony.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

What blinders am I sporting?

I don't care what a governor says I don't care what the President says or what letter is next to their name. I want to go to the gym for several reasons, I want to be educated, I want my kids to be educated and I'd like to be able to eat. I also don't want society to be in complete shambles physically and socially at the end of this.

Very few here are know it alls, extremists, and hypocrites. The ones that are don't belong to one singular party. Most people want to go back to doing the things they enjoy and earning a living. That's it.

Do you really believe we can stay in our house for about the next 5-6+ weeks? And what do you think things will look like at the end of it? Your life will be the same? Sooner or later this will effect you.

No, I'm not. You had my distaste for him as your sigline for like a week, do you forget that?

You're such a biased hack that you and Chas both completely overlooked that I wrote that McCormick place was a waste and the shelter in place was overly broad. Both initiated by Democrats.

The bitching about it is a waste, but then again so are you. And these threads imho.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

If you want to argue with me it's misplaced, I don't think any side should be blindly trusted here. And I'm tired of repeating that.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

Fair enough. I agree.

You turn every thread into a political argument. Saying one thing about McCormick Place doesn't change that.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

I don't want anything. I don't think the discussion of opening or having states closed is or should be a what side of the political aisle discussion.

I also feel it's fairly disrespectful that many times when I share a thought, feeling, or opinion, you deem it as having convenient blinders. It's as if I'm not permitted to have them if they aren't what you believe. Somehow they aren't valid or they are stupid and if it's not in line with what you think.

It’s good to see states trying a variety of openings. Hopefully they will be successful so the public starts morphing from a state of fear to comfort, pun intended.

I would not cheer the decision to overrule localities in this decision. If you prefer small government and local decision making, Texas should not mandate this statewide. One size does not fit all.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

I'm sorry that it comes across that way to you and I apologize personally to both you and Frank as well.

I don't accept the bleatings of either side as the Gospels and I'm going to end it with the position that a shutdown this long is foolish, but imho a sudden reopening of everything is just as foolish and likely won't alleviate most comcerns.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

I get it RR.

I don't think many here are advocates for flip the switch and open up everything. But since there is probably going to be a spike in cases and deaths whenever we reopen things, why not start now little by little (25-33% capacity) to try and mitigate that Spike as best we can. If there is a big spike then you don't jump to 50 or 60% for several weeks. But right now there is no reason that small businesses, hair salons, restaurants and bars within reason cannot be opened up even on a limited hours basis obviously with limited attendance.

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This is a solid take. Like Spaulding, I’m not sure why reopening the economy has become a partisan issue. If anything, it should be the young (people missing out on fun and not likely to get seriously ill) versus old (Boomers).

The Dem motives are----Terrible economy with millions and millions unemployed which they think equals-----------------

President Joey Fingers and a Dem Senate in DC.

Nothing else 'computes'.

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"Change has come to Amerika."- TFG

And that's what I find strange. In reality, I don't think it is. We can see from our board here that these "sides" aren't breaking down along D/R partisan lines.

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Ecclesiastes 5:8

But the media is pushing that narrative, and MANY on both sides have taken the bait.

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There is no switch to flip. Some people are going to be terrified until there is a vaccine, if that ever even happens. If every restaurant is allowed to open tomorrow many will go under anyway. We have to get people out of this mindset that standing within three feet of their neighbors is a death sentence. I'm not sure how you do that. But one thing I'm 100% sure about is that the minimal protection provided by masks is not worth all the negative aspects that come from wearing them and it's definitely going to make "reopening" very difficult.

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Ecclesiastes 5:8

This doesn’t help anyone.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/g9kzks/id_watch_these_coronavirus_protests_for_hours/

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The bolded is a real psychological issue. I've been trying to tell this to my wife, that people aren't the enemy. Nobody out there wants to get the virus, nobody wants to spread it to anyone else. Are there people that are more strict about social distancing and other measures than others, sure, but nobody is out there licking doorknobs. So the demonization of fellow man weather intentionally or as an unintended consequence of reporting on the issue is problematic, not only from an economic sense, but also from the perspective of how we view fellow man.

If someone doesn't want to leave their house except once a week, fine. But when you do leave, don't look at me like a killer because I'm walking my dogs down the street without a mask. I don't have a mask on either.

Keep us updated as to how things go in Texas please. I'm genuinely curious.

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