well, i mean traffic laws are fine and all, but for really minor stuff like that why can't it be similar to a red light camera ticket ? Cops catches you making an illegal turn, gets your plate and you get a ticket mailed to you. Some of those laws seem to literally exist as a reason to pull someone over. Is having a license plate light out really jeopardizing anyone's safety ?

Would people actually prefer a system that automatically captures speeding via camera? There would be thousands of tickets per day on the Eisenhower alone.

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Do some departments have a quota for contacts made? Example there are no crimes in a particular evening but you better check on at least 15 cars just in case you stumble onto something. Or simply saying hello good evening to people.

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Yes, because I am white. If I used a fake $20 bill, I probably wouldn't get a knee on the back of my neck for 8 1/2 minutes as well.

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I would prefer a system that didn't use the police to collect taxes from the poor or really anyone. That's mostly what it appears they are doing. Only 0.0013 of their contacts are arrests for a violent crime.

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Perhaps they should work harder at not being poor? Has anyone thought of this?

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Someone may have thought of this once or twice. Unfortunately, they weren't poor.

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When will poor people start to think?

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They haven't acquired that level of privilege

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Not to be that guy, but poverty has precious little to do with privilege. Poverty is a moral failing, as I see it.

Nah. You woulda probably just got in the fucking car and cooperated.

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Actually, there is a white guy this happened to. Tony Timpa, 32, from Dallas. 2016

He didn't even get the waffles either.

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Looks like dude's heart exploded from all the shit he was on.

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Nothing to do with knees on his neck and his face in the dirt. It was going to happen even if the officers were there, right?

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I'm not a doctor, but I would say yes. Ask Len Bias.

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He was off his meds. That was the reason for the call.

Fines and especially asset forfeiture are fucked up.

Sure, there needs to be a meaningful disincentive to drive 85 down Lake Shore Drive, or to be driving when you would blow a 0.12. But there also needs to be a meaningful disincentive for Northfield to pay police to write tickets for 32 in a 30 on Willow Road just west of the Edens.

In Illinois, with home rule, I'm not even sure if the state legislature can pass laws to rein in municipalities for bullshit fines and excuses for traffic stops. If they can, where the fuck is Mike Madigan? Has he said boo since George Floyd was killed?

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I would guess that the overwhelming majority of the 360 million police contacts a year are traffic stops. Gives them "probable cause" for a lot of other stuff.

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A lot of this is bad metrics for measuring performance.

I'm dealing with this on behalf of a client of mine for compliance activities, of which field enforcement is a big one. They are getting pressure to have their mandated activity metrics increase, even though even a back of the envelope analysis makes it painfully clear that the cost of finding violators is more than the societal damage caused by the violators (you'll understand why I'm being quiet about what kind of laws we are talking about). Non-targetted activity actually has a negative ROI in this client's pretty unique situation. The client doesn't have money to waste on "looking good" so they've brought me on periodically over the last few years to help them build better metrics to prove why they should tell everyone else to fuck off.

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The decision to not raise speed limits to actually reflect reality is not made by police. Work zones are crucial examples of this, people are expected go 55 for a dozen miles on a Sunday when no road work is actually going on.

Can police just not enforce some of this? Yes. But now we've gotten into them playing judge, jury and executioner again which according to these nationwide protests MANY dont want. When you leave it moderately paid middle class people who just have an associate's degree to properly assess the enforcement of all these laws you're going to run into problems. Blame your lawmakers is the point I'm trying to make here.

It depends on the work zone. If they are doing work which involves long term narrowing of land widths down to 10 feet, for example, then cutting the speed limit even when there are no crews on site would be justified. I have one of those east of me on I-40 near I-95. But NCDOT has invested in variable speed limit signs, so they can cut from 70 to 60 on the weekends, but down to 55 or even 50 when crews are actually out working.

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When driving back and forth from Montana I-90 was terrible for one lane, no work going on. You’d drive 30 miles in a construction zone and see not one worker or even work being done and then 8 miles after getting out of that zone you’d hit another. 23 year old me went nuts during this.

police reforms starts with law reform and the first laws to reform are drug laws. the people who become cops are the people who are going to continue to be cops. invest in better training and rewriting laws that don't require the police arrest so many non violent offenders.