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 Post subject: Re: Roger Clemens!
PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:58 am 
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Why is it when federal prosecutors get involved in sports related trials, they're absolutely the Clampetts?

They have something like a 90% success rate in everyday trials, but with sports related ones they consistently shit the bed.



I'm guessing that the quality of attorney used by the high profile athlete has a lot to do with it.

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 Post subject: Re: Roger Clemens!
PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:33 am 
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WRONG....Clemens will be voted into the HOF, if not on the first ballot, shortly thereafter.


Not a fucking chance.

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 Post subject: Re: Roger Clemens!
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Verdict was absolutely correct. Prosecution was absolutely incompetent.

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 Post subject: Re: Roger Clemens!
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Best pitcher ever is Walter Johnson.

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 Post subject: Re: Roger Clemens!
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doug - evergreen park wrote:
Elmhurst Steve wrote:
WRONG....Clemens will be voted into the HOF, if not on the first ballot, shortly thereafter.


Not a fucking chance.


Not unless all the old voters die soon.

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 Post subject: Re: Roger Clemens!
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You know I am not convinced about the steroids. I am however certain he did the HGH.

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 Post subject: Re: Roger Clemens!
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If lying under oath suddenly is okay...what the hell is the justice system all about? How can any case proceed with testimony if being under oath means nothing? This verdict is a joke.


again, it happens every day and goes unprosecuted...it might even be encouraged by the prosecution in some instances

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 Post subject: Re: Roger Clemens!
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I believe the prosecution threw the case, this whole thing was very partisan from the beginning, Roidger is a huge donor to the gop and if you watched any of the initial Clemens stuff you could see all the republicans sucking his dick while the dems asked him legit questions.Andy Pettite is a pussy who played dumb after burying initially...That whole thing where the case was dismissed after the prosecutors used evidence that was excluded was very obvious attemt to get Clemens off...He will never get in the Hall..not a chance, neither will Palmeiro or Mcguire or Sosa ...Bonds has a chance but none of those other phonies will. He should also be tried for statutory rape of that country singer he was banging when she was 14.

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 Post subject: Re: Roger Clemens!
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immessedup17 wrote:
If lying under oath suddenly is okay...what the hell is the justice system all about? How can any case proceed with testimony if being under oath means nothing? This verdict is a joke.


again, it happens every day and goes unprosecuted...it might even be encouraged by the prosecution in some instances

Could it not also be encouraged by the defense?

Here is an interesting little real world moment for you from the Sandusky trial.

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index. ... pol_1.html


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 Post subject: Re: Roger Clemens!
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I believe the prosecution threw the case, this whole thing was very partisan from the beginning, Roidger is a huge donor to the gop and if you watched any of the initial Clemens stuff you could see all the republicans sucking his dick while the dems asked him legit questions.Andy Pettite is a pussy who played dumb after burying initially...That whole thing where the case was dismissed after the prosecutors used evidence that was excluded was very obvious attemt to get Clemens off...He will never get in the Hall..not a chance, neither will Palmeiro or Mcguire or Sosa ...Bonds has a chance but none of those other phonies will. He should also be tried for statutory rape of that country singer he was banging when she was 14.



Bonds and Clemens will both be inducted.They were great enough before using any PED's to have made it. The voters may exclude a number of others that were just average or slightly above average players before using HGH or steroids. But for those who used it only after establishing themselves as amongst the best, the path to Cooperstown will not be blocked. Bonds only used because he was pissed that inferior players (McGuire and Sosa) were getting so much glory after using. He wanted the adoration for himself. Clemens used it basically because he wated to be get back the ability father time was slowly taking away. but he had already established himself as one of the greatest (if not THE greatest) pitchers of his generation.

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 Post subject: Re: Roger Clemens!
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Pete Rose was a Hall of Famer before he bet on games. So what.

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 Post subject: Re: Roger Clemens!
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Aren't Clemens and Bonds eligible this year? It's not gonna take long til Steve looks foolish again...

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 Post subject: Re: Roger Clemens!
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Clemens is a Turd and a complete fraud..he started juicing in 97..and no he would not be n the HOF if he retired then nor would he be "the best pitcher of his generation" then...and he is not even the best with all the juice...greg madduz>roidger

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 Post subject: Re: Roger Clemens!
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Truth /\


Clemens was also extremely average in the post season.

He had some great starts but in his 35 starts he failed to make it out of the 4th....


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 Post subject: Re: Roger Clemens!
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Clemens was also extremely average in the post season.

He had some great starts but in his 35 starts he failed to make it out of the 4th....


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He made it into the 4th against some postseason teams???


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