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badrogue17 · **Posted:** Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:03 pm

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Don Tiny wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

But what's better KC Johnson or Bernstein? Ill take Bernstein

Is K.C. Johnson the only realistic alternative to Bernstein?

There are other sports talkers--like Silvy, for instance--who launch withering critiques of our teams without embarrassing themselves.

Bernstein went with the story as a strategy for drawing attention to his show, not necessarily to "do his job" as a sports commentator.

Isn't his job to draw attention to his show?

That touches on the whole problem with bernstein. He's an "entertainer" when it suits him, yet he wants to be respected as a "real journalist".

The Penn St stuff was certainly the opposite of entertainment.

JORR · **Posted:** Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:05 pm

badrogue17 wrote:

The Penn St stuff was certainly the opposite of entertainment.

Right. Don't get angry if people fail to find you credible when you ride a story harder than Bob Greene rode Baby Richard while your partner makes weird noises and diddling jokes.

Tall Midget · **Posted:** Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:06 pm

Don Tiny wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

But what's better KC Johnson or Bernstein? Ill take Bernstein

Is K.C. Johnson the only realistic alternative to Bernstein?

There are other sports talkers--like Silvy, for instance--who launch withering critiques of our teams without embarrassing themselves.

Bernstein went with the story as a strategy for drawing attention to his show, not necessarily to "do his job" as a sports commentator.

Isn't his job to draw attention to his show?

Sure. But then that's a tacit admission that his audience should trust nothing that he says. RPB seems to have a much different conception of Bernstein's role in the media landscape, and I was distinguishing between our views. But I think that point was pretty obvious.

SomeGuy · **Posted:** Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:10 pm

Tall Midget wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Spaulding wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Bernstein would be in the right if that happened

Its not either of the Dan's jobs to protect Patrick Sharp's family from Patrick Sharp

No he wouldn't/isn't right. It's what makes him an asshole.

The guy is media. He is supposed to comment on local sports stories.

Being media means coming off like an asshole sometimes

What would you have him do? Protect the players by holding the story? At that point he becomes PR for the team, not media

And, again, Sharp is the bad guy here (in this hypothetical where these things are proven true)

It wasn't a story, though. Bernstein made it one by commenting on rumors that have yet to be substantiated.

Look, Patrick Sharp is probably a bad guy. But obviously so is Bernstein.

Steak Dinner at Cooper's Hawk. Boom.

Don Tiny · **Posted:** Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:12 pm

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

... ride a story harder than Bob Greene rode Baby Richard ...

Tall Midget · **Posted:** Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:12 pm

badrogue17 wrote:

I would tend to believe the Sharp / Cheryl Scott stuff more than any of this. Im not buying he's schtupping an average to below average looking soccer mom ( Tiger Woods' choices notwithstanding ]and a teammates wife or girlfriend.

Yeah, it seems like Sharp wouldn't focus his efforts on the equipment manager's wife--unless he's into taboo sex.

Don Tiny · **Posted:** Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:13 pm

Maybe he's got a thing for Willem Dafoe in a wig ...

badrogue17 · **Posted:** Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:14 pm

Don Tiny wrote:

Maybe he's got a thing for Willem Dafoe in a wig ...

Tall Midget · **Posted:** Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:15 pm

badrogue17 wrote:

The Penn St stuff was certainly the opposite of entertainment.

As a proponent of neoliberal ideology, Bernstein has made a career out of elevating humiliation to a form of entertainment. His forays into the Penn State scandal exemplified this dynamic, although not perfectly so in that his comments typically focused on embarrassing the powerful rather than the powerless.

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

badrogue17 wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

billypootons wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

Its too bad Mac couldn't log in and maybe tell people exactly what he would do. Guess he doesn't have anything he wants to push here for now.

my thoughts exactly

If that is Mac thinking, its flawed becuase posting here doesnt push anything

Everyone here listens to what they listen to

Well he certainly doesn't seem to log in and post just to talk sports. When he has something to announce he miraculously remembers his log in.

Im not even disagreeing with your premise. Maybe Mac thinks this place gets things hoppin. I dont think it does

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

Tall Midget wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

But what's better KC Johnson or Bernstein? Ill take Bernstein

Is K.C. Johnson the only realistic alternative to Bernstein?

There are other sports talkers--like Silvy, for instance--who launch withering critiques of our teams without embarrassing themselves.

Bernstein went with the story as a strategy for drawing attention to his show, not necessarily to "do his job" as a sports commentator.

Well, I thought the story was out there and Bernstein just shined a spotlight on it

Spaulding · **Posted:** Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:20 pm

Tall Midget wrote:

As a proponent of neoliberal ideology, Bernstein has made a career out of elevating humiliation to a form of entertainment. His forays into the Penn State scandal exemplified this dynamic, although not perfectly so in that his comments typically focused on embarrassing the powerful rather than the powerless.

And when he does there is no compassion to the victims in the story. That's never his focus, it doesn't occur to him. He's an asshole. Sharp maybe one but it doesn't excuse or make Bernstein's asshattedness okay. It's in the way he treats his callers, news subjects, coworkers, everything.

Nas · **Posted:** Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:24 pm

Mac will share these thoughts on that other message board tomorrow.

Don Tiny · **Posted:** Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:56 pm

Spaulding wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

As a proponent of neoliberal ideology, Bernstein has made a career out of elevating humiliation to a form of entertainment. His forays into the Penn State scandal exemplified this dynamic, although not perfectly so in that his comments typically focused on embarrassing the powerful rather than the powerless.

And when he does there is no compassion to the victims in the story. That's never his focus, it doesn't occur to him. He's an asshole. Sharp maybe one but it doesn't excuse or make Bernstein's asshattedness okay. It's in the way he treats his callers, news subjects, coworkers, everything.

Bernstein didn't make Sharp's or anyone else's life difficult; Sharp made his own life difficult by being a philandering mutt, and apparently a sloppy one at that.

In a league where seemingly everyone's playing for the off-ice high score at 'put the biscuit in the basket', apparently ol' Patty Sharp did it enough, and with no small amount of aplomb, that enough people who've seen and heard it all took notice of Sharp sowing his organic oats and now the time to reap said oats is at hand.

Brick · **Posted:** Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:24 pm

Spaulding wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

As a proponent of neoliberal ideology, Bernstein has made a career out of elevating humiliation to a form of entertainment. His forays into the Penn State scandal exemplified this dynamic, although not perfectly so in that his comments typically focused on embarrassing the powerful rather than the powerless.

And when he does there is no compassion to the victims in the story. That's never his focus, it doesn't occur to him. He's an asshole. Sharp maybe one but it doesn't excuse or make Bernstein's asshattedness okay. It's in the way he treats his callers, news subjects, coworkers, everything.

They were already victims. They just didn't know it.

I doubt anyone who has been cheated on ever says "I wish I had found out much later than I did".

Regular Reader · **Posted:** Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:21 pm

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Spaulding wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

As a proponent of neoliberal ideology, Bernstein has made a career out of elevating humiliation to a form of entertainment. His forays into the Penn State scandal exemplified this dynamic, although not perfectly so in that his comments typically focused on embarrassing the powerful rather than the powerless.

And when he does there is no compassion to the victims in the story. That's never his focus, it doesn't occur to him. He's an asshole. Sharp maybe one but it doesn't excuse or make Bernstein's asshattedness okay. It's in the way he treats his callers, news subjects, coworkers, everything.

They were already victims. They just didn't know it.

I doubt anyone who has been cheated on ever says "I wish I had found out much later than I did".

I doubt anyone who has been cheated on ever says "I wish I had some asshat on a 50K watt station poorly revisiting a year old story to toady up to yet another of his corporate overlords"

Tall Midget · **Posted:** Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:24 pm

Regular Reader wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Spaulding wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

As a proponent of neoliberal ideology, Bernstein has made a career out of elevating humiliation to a form of entertainment. His forays into the Penn State scandal exemplified this dynamic, although not perfectly so in that his comments typically focused on embarrassing the powerful rather than the powerless.

And when he does there is no compassion to the victims in the story. That's never his focus, it doesn't occur to him. He's an asshole. Sharp maybe one but it doesn't excuse or make Bernstein's asshattedness okay. It's in the way he treats his callers, news subjects, coworkers, everything.

They were already victims. They just didn't know it.

I doubt anyone who has been cheated on ever says "I wish I had found out much later than I did".

I doubt anyone who has been cheated on ever says "I wish I had some asshat on a 50K watt station poorly revisiting a year old story to toady up to yet another of his corporate overlords"

Chus · **Posted:** Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:42 pm

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Peoria Matt · **Posted:** Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:57 pm

Regular Reader wrote:

I doubt anyone who has been cheated on ever says "I wish I had some asshat on a 50K watt station poorly revisiting a year old story to toady up to yet another of his corporate overlords"

RR with the mic drop.

Brick · **Posted:** Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:01 pm

Regular Reader wrote:

I doubt anyone who has been cheated on ever says "I wish I had some asshat on a 50K watt station poorly revisiting a year old story to toady up to yet another of his corporate overlords"

Fair point.

Spaulding · **Posted:** Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:31 pm

Reader gets it. Not real surprised BR and DT don't.

Brick · **Posted:** Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:56 am

Spaulding wrote:

Reader gets it. Not real surprised BR and DT don't.

I understood Readers point but I don't agree.

I don't think it is Bernstein's job to worry about the people that Sharp embarrassed with his alleged behavior especially those who were sleeping with a married man.

I feel sorry for his wife though. Hopefully she divorces him.

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

Spaulding wrote:

Reader gets it. Not real surprised BR and DT don't.

So, Bernstein should have not mentioned anything then?

Ok. Sharp is still the jackass. And if it wasnt Bernstein, it was gonna be Sports Mockery or someone else.

Also, where did Bernstein get this latest thing?

Bernstein is a dick, but not for this, imo

SomeGuy · **Posted:** Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:12 am

rogers park bryan wrote:

Spaulding wrote:

Reader gets it. Not real surprised BR and DT don't.

So, Bernstein should have not mentioned anything then?

Ok. Sharp is still the jackass. And if it wasnt Bernstein, it was gonna be Sports Mockery or someone else.

Also, where did Bernstein get this latest thing?

Bernstein is a dick, but not for this, imo

What "latest thing?"

Is it the latest rehash of a year old story?

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

SomeGuy wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Spaulding wrote:

Reader gets it. Not real surprised BR and DT don't.

So, Bernstein should have not mentioned anything then?

Ok. Sharp is still the jackass. And if it wasnt Bernstein, it was gonna be Sports Mockery or someone else.

Also, where did Bernstein get this latest thing?

Bernstein is a dick, but not for this, imo

What "latest thing?"

Is it the latest rehash of a year old story?

I was late to the details of this story but I thought that something happened recently that brought up the events of last year. The equipment guy thing maybe?

SomeGuy · **Posted:** Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:20 am

rogers park bryan wrote:

SomeGuy wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Spaulding wrote:

Reader gets it. Not real surprised BR and DT don't.

So, Bernstein should have not mentioned anything then?

Ok. Sharp is still the jackass. And if it wasnt Bernstein, it was gonna be Sports Mockery or someone else.

Also, where did Bernstein get this latest thing?

Bernstein is a dick, but not for this, imo

What "latest thing?"

Is it the latest rehash of a year old story?

I was late to the details of this story but I thought that something happened recently that brought up the events of last year. The equipment guy thing maybe?

I don't know, RPB, no ones knows what anyone is talking about, where anything took place, when anything took place, what took place and who exactly was involved.

Whenever anyone backs the BernSTINE on here on this subject it's always "Well, Sharp PROBABLY did that so he's right!" or "Sharp MOST LIKELY did that so he's no wrong!" With no proof or sources to back it anything up. Kinda like what BernSTINE is doing, no sources, just running with some old junk to try and catch a shine. Good thing the Duke Non-Story came along.

BernSTINE is a coward.

Don't be a BernSTINE

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

I guess you could make the case it's irresponsible of Bernstein, but if it comes out that Sharp did some of these things, then the fault should go on Sharp. Especially when talking about his family

Brick · **Posted:** Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:25 am

SomeGuy wrote:

Whenever anyone backs the BernSTINE on here on this subject it's always "Well, Sharp PROBABLY did that so he's right!" or "Sharp MOST LIKELY did that so he's no wrong!" With no proof or sources to back it anything up. Kinda like what BernSTINE is doing, no sources, just running with some old junk to try and catch a shine. Good thing the Duke Non-Story came along.

Still waiting on anyone on here to think Bernstein was wrong...

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=92536

You could be the first! Predict Bernstein gets sued and/or fired!

good dolphin · **Joined:** Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm **Posts:** 82836

SomeGuy wrote:

[ just running with some old junk

like Joe Orr on a nightly jog

good dolphin · **Joined:** Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm **Posts:** 82836

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

SomeGuy wrote:

Whenever anyone backs the BernSTINE on here on this subject it's always "Well, Sharp PROBABLY did that so he's right!" or "Sharp MOST LIKELY did that so he's no wrong!" With no proof or sources to back it anything up. Kinda like what BernSTINE is doing, no sources, just running with some old junk to try and catch a shine. Good thing the Duke Non-Story came along.

Still waiting on anyone on here to think Bernstein was wrong...

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=92536

You could be the first! Predict Bernstein gets sued and/or fired!

Giangreco didn't get fired when he made some shitty speculation about Payton and forced him to hold a news conference about why he was dying.

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