Also,the pant suit industry will see a big bump in sales.

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Most politicians would sacrifice their first born to become president. There comes a time where we all would do things that we wouldn't normally do to get where/what we want. Hillary is no different.

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Hopefully they find some better looking ones.

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Did you also tell them that she's aces at bullying and threatening her husband's rape/assault victims into silence? Or that she's totally cool with imprisonment and execution of gays?

Aim high, that's what SomeGuy says!

Leave Trump out of this. He has nothing to do with this discussion.

So, you can't point to anything that she has done which would make her evil, but you call her evil anyway? Every politician is dirty on some level. They all encounter shady people along the way. It's how they get to where they are.

Referring to her as evil, especially when you can't give one example of behavior that maker her evil, is just lazy. This is the kind of stuff that makes it nearly impossible to have rational political discourse in this country.

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You can find terrible positions and behaviors by all politicians. Why is she singled out as evil?

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She's a lady

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Honest question and you are one of the few here that can answer firsthand. I thought the same about having the first black president. How would you say at this point Obama has impacted the black community particularly young men. Has he brought meaningful change?

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I did not say I can't give a particular example. I said I won't bother. I am no longer going deeper into these topics than I already have. Evil is a broad word used by many. Many have called recent politicians evil all the time.

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I don't think I've called her "evil," I just think she's a piece of shit which is something I've called most politicians and financiers.

I guess it's almost just the way she flaunts it, her general attitude of entitlement and the brazenness in which she lies...even relative to other politicians. Being a Clinton factors into it as well for a lot of people. I just hope she loses, has a total meltdown, dies and them we can be rid of that family forever.

I was tickled pink when Jen Bush (who I don't actually hate) went down in flames. One family down , one to go.

I think he's had a positive impact. Not to the degree I would have liked but he's young enough to build on that.

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That really isn't true. There are sure to be people against her for being a woman like there are for Obama as a black man. There are myriad reasons people find her bad. There is no way if you look at her unlikable polls that many people are only against her sex.

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Pretty much every politician is a liar and a hypocrite, has done shady things, and known shady people. I know some shady people, and I'm sure you do too.

I don't know how somebody can call her evil, but not use that word with Reagan, who has the blood of hundreds of thousands of Central Americans on his cold, dead hands. Or W, who has the blood of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. Maybe Nas is right, it's because she is a woman.



Her sense of entitlement, and this campaign being run almost as a coronation, is a turn off. I do not wish for her to meltdown and die, however.



What an epic flameout that campaign was. I really thought he would come out on top of that horrible field, as the safe pick. The "smart" Bush ain't so smart, apparently.

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Define many.

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She's not saint but she's been accused of so many things that weren't true. Many assume those things were true because the media barely covers the story once it is proven to be false. The perception of her as evil and corrupt becomes the reality for most people.

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Agreed on all counts

His holding the office alone has shifted things.

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Why don't we think Bernie is evil too?

Career politician who spent his whole career behaving in his own self interests. He has supported dictators that were literally enemies of the United States including hosting some of them and praising them. He's not a Democrat but pretended to be one. He has whined about the system being rigged and then attempted to screw Hillary out of the nomination by then going hard after those same superdelegates he spent months complaining about. He has let his supporters quickly turn into hateful protesters. He doesn't really have any quality legislation or work done that proves that even a small amount of his ideas are workable. He refused to answer many simple questions on how he would go about doing his promises.

All the while his "good guy" act mostly seems to be because he isn't Hillary Clinton, wants to break up the banks without being able to say how he would do it, and made a lot of promises that he almost certainly wouldn't have kept about giving everyone a whole bunch of stuff and paying for it with things like microtaxes on stock trades. But hey, maybe he is right and the country is on a collision course with destruction if we didn't elect him. Personally, I think we'll be just fine by 2020.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

That's what flooding the country with immigrants will get ya: Either a stand for nothing unless it's race and gender over class pol like Clinton or a reactionary like Trump.

Identity politics!! It works so well.

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She's not evil. She's self-interested and banal.

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Obama hasn't had much impact with respect to the black community. He has mostly avoided the issue of race and when he does speak about African Americans he tends to denigrate them. The issue of poverty in African American communities is at an epidemic level and for the better part of 7 years he has been silent on it. It is one of the reasons that many African American intellectuals have spoken out against him in recent years.

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The nepotistic "It's My Turn" campaign.

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I've repeatedly called her evil She's a self-serving, lying, manipulative, piece of shit that has damaged and hurt others for her own gain. This has nothing to do with her being a woman. She has plenty of company....her husband Bill, George W Bush, Barry, Ted Kennedy, Ronald Reagan, Donald Trump....the list goes on.

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Agreed, she's evil and sleazy..she's Bush-Cheyney lite..2 more evil mfers.

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I took my Bernie sign out of my yard this morning. Its over, its all over. For a third presidential election, I will be voting for Gary Johnson and watching a fairly bad democratic candidate win the WH. How the GOP has managed to fuck this up for 3 straight elections is anyone's guess...

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That's the understatement of the decade! In the summer of 2008, you were favorably comparing Obama to MLK.

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I didn't hate Obama in 2008.

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I doubt that... Nas doesnt like MLK if memory serves.

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As I recall, you predicted he was going to be a transformative leader in the same way MLK was.

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I thought he would be a great leader and he clearly hasn't even been a good leader. That being said I would never compare anyone I like to MLK.

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She wants to indiscriminately kill lots of foreigners. That sounds pretty damn evil to me.

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