The Sagebrush Rebellion is about far more than just grazing rights. it is about the fact that the lands are controlled by bureaucrats who are thousands of miles away with no local input into how they are managed. Those lands should be managed by the states or counties as they are entities which have a vested interest in seeing that the management of those lands is handled in a manner which benefits the local population.

and you wouldn't want John Brown championing your cause either. It still doesn't mean the cause is any less just.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

The Sagebrush Rebellion is about far more than just grazing rights. it is about the fact that the lands are controlled by bureaucrats who are thousands of miles away with no local input into how they are managed. Those lands should be managed by the states or counties as they are entities which have a vested interest in seeing that the management of those lands is handled in a manner which benefits the local population.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

They'll just sell it to the Russians or the Canadiens or CHINA to fill a budget hole. AMERICANS are profiting from the land at below market prices.

So your solution is to steal and then eventually throw a hissyfit with guns?

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

You think if the land was given to the state they would sell it to Russia?

Hot take.

The solution is to give state and local citizens more say over their economic future. Tough to do when the feds lay claim to 85% of your state.

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The solution is to give state and local citizens more say over their economic future. Tough to do when the feds lay claim to 85% of your state.

The solution is to give state and local citizens more say over their economic future. Tough to do when the feds lay claim to 85% of your state.

Don't they just end up selling out to corporations and land developers most of the time? Isn't conservation one of the Government's goals here?

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

From what I can tell, the state doesn't want these lands. They are expensive to maintain and the federal government helps the states out with some of the lost revenue they would have from private ownership of the lands.

However, the grazing rights would likely be higher without the feds in this case.

You going to answer what land was claimed from the Bundys? Should the Bundys own 85% of Nevada?

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Seriously, the Bundy's had no claim to the Bunkerville Alottment from everything I've read. He was just letting his cattle graze wherever the fuck they wanted.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

Isn't there a lot of government testing out there? What is the government hiding?

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Isn't there a lot of government testing out there? What is the government hiding?

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

The people of the state of Nevada should have more control over the land in their state. If you disagree, would you agree that should at least have more input? No one said the Bundy's were angels, but they did stand up for this.

The people of the state of Nevada should have more control over the land in their state. If you disagree, would you agree that should at least have more input? No one said the Bundy's were angels, but they did stand up for this.

The people of Nevada had even more land taken on Obama's way out the door.

The people of the state of Nevada should have more control over the land in their state. If you disagree, would you agree that should at least have more input? No one said the Bundy's were angels, but they did stand up for this.

The people of Nevada had even more land taken on Obama's way out the door.

Even if that is a fair opinion to have, you don't get to literally steal for 21 years without paying for something and have a just cause. Fight it in court, or by lobbying(The Bundy family is rich), or by a public information campaign.

If I think toll roads are wrong and mismanaged I can't refuse to pay them and then threaten to shoot anyone who tries to collect them. You know the rules when you chose to do what you do.

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The people of the state of Nevada should have more control over the land in their state. If you disagree, would you agree that should at least have more input? No one said the Bundy's were angels, but they did stand up for this.

The people of Nevada had even more land taken on Obama's way out the door.

Don't they elect people to represent them over such grievances?

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

Seacrest, I think the Bundy's could have gone about giving more input using legal means like petitions and demonstrations/rallies instead of stubbornly refusing to pay the land fees.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

There is a certain irony to Ogie's concerns for the "local populations" of Nevada. Haven't quite figured out what that irony is just yet. Once I have i will be sure to mention it.

I see what you did there.

Yes, but do you really give a shit about what happens to Nevadans? Guess what, Most elected officials outside of Nevada don't give a shit either.

They tried to get a bill passed in 2016. This happened instead.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/t ... nd-grab-an

If any one of us took over a federal "building" with guns, we would be shot and killed and everyone but Ogie would agree with the government. That didn't happen here. I have no sympathy for them amd they should pay what they owe.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

Yes, but do you really give a shit about what happens to Nevadans? Guess what, Most elected officials outside of Nevada don't give a shit either.

They tried to get a bill passed in 2016. This happened instead.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/t ... nd-grab-an