I'm not sure if you're serious, but, as terrible as it sounds, that is a price of freedom. I'm sure everyone wishes it weren't. Having millions of kids getting diabetes before they're even an adult is also a price of freedom. Kids who die in boating accidents in a price of freedom. Having kids die in auto accidents is a price of freedom. It just sounds unpalatable to say, but it's absolutely true.

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Youtube comments are a threat though?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Even if I agree with that, saying that the Federal Government shouldn't step in to overregulate guns is now an idea that is that "unpopular"? (it's not - that's just what the media would represent it as). That's a problem. Our Second Amendment is in direct contradiction with that line of thinking.

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I am.

It sounds horrible but it's true.

Whether we have shown that we are worthy of our freedom can certainly be argued.

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One or two of us caught that.

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hedgeyourkids

yeti ended multiple for the most part unused buying programs. one of which was the nra and everyone is having a conniption fit.

one my hunting buddies on fb was like "the hunting community is like their largest target market"....i'm like

yep, people dying of drug overdoses when we could just strip away the 4th Amendment to combat trafficking is also a price of freedom, but I value my right to privacy too much to give it up.

Rights and liberties are more important than a false sense of security

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Being lost in all of this is that Yeti products are amazing and can literally keep a drink cold for an infinite amount of time.

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"Do nothing and just accept it that school shootings are going to happen" is a lot different than overregulating guns.

It's also kind of ironic that your first post in this thread was this:


When I have never said anything close to that.

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I think that was the point of this thread. And of course they are expensive as shit. So it's kinda hilarious the gun nuts are destroying them. I think that was the intended discussion, not the gun debate.

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You always boil it down to "do nothing and just accept it that school shootings are going to happen" and phrase it that way to make it sound worse than it is. You can throw that phrase out there in the hopes of making it sound barbaric all you want; it's not. Beyond the fact that there will always be people in this world who do harm to others and we simply can't stop all of it, the federal government isn't the only entity that can try. There are other layers of government.

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Worth it, though. I can leave a Yeti mug with water and ice on my nightstand and the next morning, the ice has barely melted at all.

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Shooting empty pop cans is fine though because you are not angry at them? I am pretty sure these girls are not ill at all. They probably are being used to make a statement.

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"Do nothing and just accept it that school shootings are going to happen" is accurate though.

As I've said all along, I'm all for actual solutions to this problem, but if the idea is that there isn't actually a problem then I'm going to view it that way.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

But it's more nuanced than that.

Saying it isn't actually a "problem" could be interpreted in 100 different ways. No one is arguing that school shootings don't happen. And, I would guess, no one is arguing that they wouldn't like for them to not happen at all in a perfect world. The question is how much (in the real world) we want to infringe on people's freedom in order to lower those shootings, assuming we can lower them at all. Is it worth it to severely restrict gun rights nationally to save 5 lives a year? I don't know the answer to that question, but the options aren't either to stop shootings or not stop shootings. It's far more complicated than that.

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It is not do nothing and accept dead kids at school shootings. In the last month or so my local school district has been doing many things. As you might imagine here in western PA they also respect the 2nd amendment. Below is a letter sent to parents about the plans and progress. They are being proactive and not saying nothing can be done but ban guns.

Also, warning signs were in fact missed on the Parkland kid. Joke all you want about this dumb video but that kid had documented warning signs that should not have been missed.

April 23, 2018

Dear Parents/Guardians,

<Redacted> staff takes the safety of our students very seriously. Over the past few years, the high school has made strides to build upon what was already a solid foundation of student safety. Recent improvements include a School Police Officer in the building at all times and a front entry security guard to help with visitors entering the building. You may have experienced our new front entry procedure, where you must leave all drop offs in the breezeway and only those with appointments are permitted to enter the building. I am sure your son/daughter has noticed new cameras being installed throughout the interior and exterior of the building. All of the above items, and many others, have helped to add layers to our school security in order to make <Redacted> as secure as possible.

In the coming weeks, we will add more layers to the security measures in place. We will be limiting entrances to the building for our students. All students will now enter through the cafeteria entrance, which is Door #11. This means all bus riders and all student drivers will now enter the same door. Student drop offs will continue to utilize the front, main entrance. In addition to entry restriction, we will be installing metal detectors at the cafeteria entrance as well as the main entrance to the school. All students will have their bags searched daily, pass through the metal detector, and be wanded if necessary.

Student drop off and entry times will not change. Early bird students will continue to use the front door to enter the building. Students may enter the building any time between 7:13 a.m. and 7:31 a.m. Students will still need to be in Period 1 by 7:38 a.m. If they are not in Period 1 by then, they will be marked tardy. The cafeteria entrance, Door #11, will be closed at 7:38 a.m. and any students arriving later that that will need to enter through the front, main entrance of the High School. We will be accommodating for the first week of the new procedure as this will be a learning curve for both staff and students. I will be holding class meetings to discuss this new procedure and show the students what their new morning procedure will look like.

Please do have conversations with your child to emphasize how important it is to know what they keep in their bags and items that should not be brought into school, including but not limited to weapons, prescription or illegal drugs, tobacco, alcohol, and vape pens.

Thank you for your continued support as we take these important steps toward making our buildings even safer.

Sincerely,

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That's not fair. My only point is that there has to be something we can try. There is a reason why mass shootings are much more prevalent here than pretty much any other similar nation. It's not even close. It's like accepting that cancer exists without looking for solutions.

Now, take it to the other side and the thing that really did put more on the "more gun control" side. When you have a school shooting and the NRA is literally out there saying that the solution to guns in schools is to add significantly more guns to schools then we've gone past the point of "Do nothing" to my kids future teacher having a pistol on him at all times when teaching him fractions.

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Correct, but BRick brought up a relavent point. These people are psychos for throwing a such a hissy fit. Most likely a warning sign they aren't right.

Or he was just being snarky? Opinions vary.

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What the hell is a Yeti cooler and why in the hell is it $300????

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

specific brand of cooler which holds ice for a very long time.

one part great construction, one part MiUSA, many parts status symbol

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They store frozen embryos for years, in case you're in the market for a contraption that can do that.

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the 5 dollar walmart ozark trail ones do the same thing at a fraction of the cost.

i have a fleet of RTIC products. i got a yeti as a gift and its as good.

Don't egg him on.

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I see what you did there!

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Best way to get your point across is to take a couple nitwits on YouTube and apply that mindset to millions of NRA members.

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