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so you guys are so positive he killed her that you'd be willing to be the one to push in the needle?

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I don't think the statement is that absurd. SHARK never said the government should put him to death. He was just saying he think Peterson is a murderer and should die. Many people think that murderers should die.

I've got no problem with the death penalty. I just thought his statement was a little scary when saying "Drew Peterson should die right now. Like they should have stuck the needle in his arm while the verdict was being read. I'm not on board for that.

Me either, but I'm not in favor of the death penalty either. So Hatchet, the answer to your question for me would be no.

But like I said, you're reading into what you think SHARK was saying. He didn't say the government should kill him right now, or after the verdict. He just said he thinks he should die. I'm guessing there's many people who feel that way. I personally don't, but I understand the sentiment.

SHARK, you want to clarify your thoughts on the matter?

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so you guys are so positive he killed her that you'd be willing to be the one to push in the needle?


I would gladly push that button. Hell I would even take a pistol to the back of his head and pump a few rounds in.

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Chas - emulating Jesus on a daily basis. :lol:

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so you guys are so positive he killed her that you'd be willing to be the one to push in the needle?


I would gladly push that button. Hell I would even take a pistol to the back of his head and pump a few rounds in.



:lol:

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What the guy is a murderer. Certain crimes deserve capital punishment. We do not have it here in Illinois because of fucking crook Ryan ,who only got rid of it to make himself look good.
I do not know if you get the stories in the Chicago area about a real piece of work called Nick Shelley. Guy went on a spree,killed 8 people,mostly elderly people and a few kids. It happen about 5 years ago. He was convicted of the first one a few months back, life with no parole. Now they are going to the second case. His slimeball lawyer asked for and was given more time to prepare for the case. Why,well this jackass is playing the system just to be an asshole. Keeps dismissing his lawyers saying he wants to represent himself,then when it comes trail time he asks for and is given a lawyer. So why are we having more trials and wasting taxpayer money if he is already never getting out? I understand the families of the deceased wanting justice but this is doing nothing but wasting time and money. This guy is a perfect example of someone who in the old days would have been taken out to a tree and hung from the highest branch until he stopped twitching. Or even better as they used to do in the old USSR,conviction,sentenced to death they then took you to a little room at the back of the courthouse and put a bullet in the back of your head.

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 Post subject: Re: Drew Petersen jurors
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:05 am 
Boy. What little seminary you bothered to stick around for really sank in didn't it Chas?


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Regardless of what you may think of Drew Petersen (and I think he is allegedly scum), it should make you very uncomfortable to live in a state where a conviction could be obtained with such (in my opinion) blatantly inadmissible testimony. Kind of a win the battle, lose the war sort of thing - enjoyable in the extreme short run.

It is somewhat amusing to see the scorn heaped upon his lawyers for doing their job.

I missed the scorn at the attorneys on this board excepting the sunglasses thing. I thought that was a bad call. It douched up the entire team and did nothing to help Peterson's image IMO.

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So the conviction is going to get overturned on appeal, right?

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So the conviction is going to get overturned on appeal, right?



Good chance of that.

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So the conviction is going to get overturned on appeal, right?



Good chance of that.

Ok

Just making sure I understood the fact that the evidence was shady, at best.

I find it ironic that everyone that is celebrating this doesn't realize the fact that the prosecution's case barely holds any water, and they are the same ones complaining about anyone else getting convicted on this same lacking evidence.

For the record, I do think he did it, but based on what I've read of the case, I wouldn't have voted guilty.

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So the conviction is going to get overturned on appeal, right?



Good chance of that.

Ok

Just making sure I understood the fact that the evidence was shady, at best.

I find it ironic that everyone that is celebrating this doesn't realize the fact that the prosecution's case barely holds any water, and they are the same ones complaining about anyone else getting convicted on this same lacking evidence.

For the record, I do think he did it, but based on what I've read of the case, I wouldn't have voted guilty.
From everything you've read? Well 12 people actually heard every bit of testimony, reviewed all physical evidence and came to an agreement that he was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Reasonable doubt is not the same as any doubt.
I was surprised by the verdict myself. However, since I wasn't in the courtroom I find it difficult to say how I'd vote. I also think it's unfair to say they got it wrong without knowing all of the details of the trial and the instructions they were given prior to rendering a verdict.

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All of the prosecutors' mistakes aside, maybe it gets appealed based on these idiots coordinating their wardobes each day (not taking trial seriously).
Well Brodsky told Roe & Roeper that he had no problem with the jurors clothes and even went to far as to say the were the most attentive jury he had ever witnessed. Of course that was earlier in the week so...

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I find it ironic that everyone that is celebrating this doesn't realize the fact that the prosecution's case barely holds any water, and they are the same ones complaining about anyone else getting convicted on this same lacking evidence.

Everyone? I havent come across one person who doesn't realize that.


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Agreed, I think everyone knows the case had little actual evidence and mostly circumstantial ..and I do not think it will be overturned...Peterson has himself to lame for not being able to find an impartial jury..that loud mouth arrogant prick was seeking as much publicity as possible..fuck him.


And Chas it actually costs much more $ from the state to put someone to death..with all the appeals and b.s. it is cheaper to house them for life.

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Agreed, I think everyone knows the case had little actual evidence and mostly circumstantial ..and I do not think it will be overturned...Peterson has himself to lame for not being able to find an impartial jury..that loud mouth arrogant prick was seeking as much publicity as possible..fuck him.


And Chas it actually costs much more $ from the state to put someone to death..with all the appeals and b.s. it is cheaper to house them for life.


I know it does,The appeals process is set up the way it is to stop people from being executed by accident. Also I said certain crimes. Not every murderer needs to be killed,only the ones who do really heinous shit like Sheely,Gacy. There are exception. People who are mentally ill or disabled should not be but they should not be ever let out into the public again. What needs to happen now is the lazy ass political hack bitch we have as States Attorney needs to do a full unbiased investigation of the Bollingbrook PD. If she don't then the Feds need to step in.

As to the case being overturned.I doubt it unless the Drew law gets thrown out.
And for the rest of you who are criticizing my stance, unless you have had someone close to you murdered you have no idea what people who do go through and what they feel. If capital punishment was correctly enforced like it used to be before we got all touchy feely as a nation there would be 1)fewer people doing spree killings and mass murders 2) less crowded jails. If you are okay with evil being just slapped on the wrist then fine cool no problem.

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If capital punishment was correctly enforced like it used to be before we got all touchy feely as a nation there would be 1)fewer people doing spree killings and mass murders 2) less crowded jails.

:lol: :lol:

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I think aggrieved family members should be able to mete out justice just like in Afghanistan.

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I think aggrieved family members should be able to mete out justice just like in Afghanistan.

Exactly. We need Sharia law in this country. We're just too touchy feely now.

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I think aggrieved family members should be able to mete out justice just like in Afghanistan.

I'm really dissapointed because the first time I read this, I read it as "aggravated family members" and I had a witty reply about letting ASFB meting out all justice...

...but I guess, in a roundabout way, I got to use it anyways, so great...


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I think aggrieved family members should be able to mete out justice just like in Afghanistan.

Exactly. We need Sharia law in this country. We're just too touchy feely now.


The concept of family members exacting justice is in fact older than Islam,look up weregild.

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Wow. This thread was full of... something. :scratch:
Chas and Shark are willing to kill people. I find that interesting.
I don't care if they found Petersen standing over her dead body holding her head under the water... killing him is wrong. I don't want anyone's blood on my hands, which as a citizen of Illinois, it would be if we still had the death penalty.

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so you guys are so positive he killed her that you'd be willing to be the one to push in the needle?


I would gladly push that button. Hell I would even take a pistol to the back of his head and pump a few rounds in.



:lol:

:shock:


What the guy is a murderer. Certain crimes deserve capital punishment. We do not have it here in Illinois because of fucking crook Ryan ,who only got rid of it to make himself look good.
I do not know if you get the stories in the Chicago area about a real piece of work called Nick Shelley. Guy went on a spree,killed 8 people,mostly elderly people and a few kids. It happen about 5 years ago. He was convicted of the first one a few months back, life with no parole. Now they are going to the second case. His slimeball lawyer asked for and was given more time to prepare for the case. Why,well this jackass is playing the system just to be an asshole. Keeps dismissing his lawyers saying he wants to represent himself,then when it comes trail time he asks for and is given a lawyer. So why are we having more trials and wasting taxpayer money if he is already never getting out? I understand the families of the deceased wanting justice but this is doing nothing but wasting time and money. This guy is a perfect example of someone who in the old days would have been taken out to a tree and hung from the highest branch until he stopped twitching. Or even better as they used to do in the old USSR,conviction,sentenced to death they then took you to a little room at the back of the courthouse and put a bullet in the back of your head.


It's not at all shocking that you don't understand why your "hunch" can't be the basis for capital punishment in a civilized society. But let's look at it this way....

If his lawyers didn't defend him properly, he could end up getting off for that. It is his attorneys' duty to defend him so that he doesn't get off on a technicality just as much as it is their duty to defend him because he has to have adequate representation in a civilized society.

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How about something where in slam dunk no doubt murder cases, the victims kin gets to decide whether or not its death or life in prison.

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How about something where in slam dunk no doubt murder cases, the victims kin gets to decide whether or not its death or life in prison.


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How about something where in slam dunk no doubt murder cases, the victims kin gets to decide whether or not its death or life in prison.


No.

Well I guess thats settled then.

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How about something where in slam dunk no doubt murder cases, the victims kin gets to decide whether or not its death or life in prison.


No.

Well I guess thats settled then.

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Drew Peterson has been a scumbag for quite sometime. Now, here's hoping his mouthpiece, I mean attorney Joel Brodsky, would not only just shut up, but go away, too!



To steal from Hawkeroo....In all my years of trying murder cases....22........here are some observations.

1. I did post here that Brodsky was fully capable of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
2. Do not have a divorce attorney as lead counsel in a murder trial.
3. Tell the jackass divorce attorney that the theory of defense is ACCIDENTAL DEATH, so there is no reason to get up in opening statement and trash the victim by calling her names like BONKERS and a Shrew. THAT puts in motive for the State.
4. If the Judge hates the States Attorney...consider a BENCH TRIAL. Especially when cause of death is THE ISSUE and NOBODY can place your client at the scene of the crime.
5. Do not try your case to the MEDIA every day wearing shades.
6. Do not withdraw your Motion for a Mistrial because YOU LIKE THE JURY. The Judge may be so pissed at the State that he finally just may grant one. No lawyer has ever been able to read the minds of jurors.
7. When the Judge bars a witness for testifying for the State, it is a good idea for the DIVORCE ATTORNEY to take THE HINT and NOT call said witness in the DEFENSE CASE IN CHIEF to HANG THE CLIENT!!! LMAO!
8. Despite the incompetence of the prosecutors, JUSTICE WAS SERVED.
9. Drew Brodsky is the best prosecutor in the history of Will County. He deserves a STATUE!!!! WHAT AN ABSOLUTE MOPE!
10. This case may be reversed if it gets to the U.S. Supreme Court...as long as Brodsky is long gone...because the Constitutionality of the Legislature passing exceptions to the Hearsay rule for ONE DEFENDANT AND ONE CASE is a tad sketchy!!!!

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Drew puts out a hit on the prosecutor. What a dumb fuck.

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I think he's just in "I don't give a fuck" mode now.

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