Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

Defense is perceived as important and the waste is not as obvious nor does it result in immediate contempt.

The government should not be wasteful. Doesn't matter if it's 1T or $1.

There is no trust fund that is holding real money for social security. You know, the kind of actual money that you and i may have in a savings account.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/merrillmatt ... st-fund/2/

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 69780.html

Read the info for yourselves. SS is financed as well as our state pension funds have been in Illinois. And for the last two years, SS has paid out more than it has taken in. The "trust fund" is a bunch of IOU's owed to taxpayers who have paid into it.

Was wondering if you had a strong opinion either way.

Im pretty hammered right now.

I gotta think our most wasteful government spending comes from defense spending.

Of course I do. I've been paying a lot of money into that system for a lot of years. I'd like to get it back at some point.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

It is. They inflate the price on everything and can actually lose money and no one looks into it. A bomb that cost every country in the world $50k will cost us $5M. It's ridiculous the amount of money that is wasted. In less than 20 years we will be spending over $1T a year on defense. If we start another war that could happen in less than 10 years.

Spanky,

The government can give you an IOU for your cash.

How does that sound to you?

Im pretty hammered right now.

I think that's what I already have.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

That's my take on it as well. "Entitlement" get's thrown around like a dirty word. But at least on the SS side, each and every one of us that has paid SS taxes in their life is ENTITLED to that money because we have already paid into the program. It's not like some government piggy bank that we get to tap into when we turn 65 just for being good human beings. We've been paying into it our entire working life.

If you want to get rid of SS. Fine. Then I want every damn dime that I've put into the SS program so that I can invest it in my retirement as I see fit.

How do people think that the $2.6T that is supposed to be in a trust fund is going to be replaced?

Im pretty hammered right now.

Killing everyone over age 70 and selling their organs for less than market value?

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

Agreed. The treasury could wipe out $2T of that tomorrow and the government could extend their middle finger on the IOU's and we would only have about $5T in debt owed to other countries. It's really criminal how they misused money.

Yes it is.

It is even worse the same thieves get re-elected regularly.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

Medicaid and welfare I believe need to exist, but need serious reform.

Welfare unfortunately there is no good way to track and stop the abuses that take place and cost us money. Yes, there are people that truly need the help and use welfare to get back on their feet and feed their children when times are rough. The problem is something I see on a daily basis in the work that I do. Somebody stands at the counter buying scratch off after scratch off after scratch off and then buys enough Pick 3 / Pick 4 tickets to be ample kindling for a fire. Followed by them busting out a WIC card to buy their snack food. If you have the cash for lotto, then I don't need to be paying for your groceries. Sadly there is no way to enforce things so that our money is being used for those that really need it. And as a person I would rather just roll my eyes and get pissed at the cheats than take food away from those who really do need it.

Medicaid.... hell at least with that we know who is getting the care. I was having this debate with somebody on Saturday. You can debate the "mandate" of Obamacare all day long. But whether our taxes pay for health care through Obamacare, or our insurance premiums / taxes for Cook County pay for the care, we are still footing the bill. At least with the mandate everybody to some extent has some kind of (and I hate to use the term cause it's a talking point, but I can't find a better wording) skin in the game, even if it's 15 bucks. If we want to kill the mandate, then fine. Do so. But also repeal the Open Door Law passed under Reagan and give hospitals / doctors the ability to extend the middle finger to those who show up without insurance or cash. One way or another our money is gonna pay for their care, so I'd rather everybody at least have some commitment to things. Did that make sense?

No one noticed them stealing $10T. That's really fucked up. I thought we owned about $5T (that's terrible) but somehow realizing it's reversed pisses me off more.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

I think millions of people noticed.

Most refer to themselves as Republicans.

It's solvent for I believe 21 years. And would be solvent for eternity if they removed the cap on earnings that are taxed.

You'll have to clarify that for me Seacrest. Do you mean the Republicans that voted for Reagan who increased the debt by 189% or for GWB who took it from 6 Trillion to 12 trillion? Want to make sure we are clear.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

I think millions of people noticed.

Most refer to themselves as Republicans.

Well you seem to not like to live in the world of factual information. And to have a discussion on the debt requires both sides to accept what facts are.

So please. Point out what in my post is not factual.

We'll hang up and listen for our answer.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.