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15 million viewers for a Game 7 matchup between G.S.-Houston. Why oh why are they talking NBA? No one cares about it.

https://www.nba.com/article/2018/05/29/ ... tv-history

18 mil at its peak.

That's less average than a blowout NCAA championship game that was down 30 percent because the game wasn't interesting.



So now we are comparing it to the championship game? I Predict That the NBA Finals will outdraw the NCAA championship game. I Also Predict that it will be uninteresting.

What say you?

You do realize that the championship game only outdrew the CFs by a mere 1 million viewers.

Something that everyone loves outdrew something that no one loves by 1 million viewers. Interesting.

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long time guy wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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15 million viewers for a Game 7 matchup between G.S.-Houston. Why oh why are they talking NBA? No one cares about it.

https://www.nba.com/article/2018/05/29/ ... tv-history

18 mil at its peak.

That's less average than a blowout NCAA championship game that was down 30 percent because the game wasn't interesting.



So now we are comparing it to the championship game? I Predict That the NBA Finals will outdraw the NCAA championship game. I Also Predict that it will be uninteresting.

What say you?

You do realize that the championship game only outdrew the CFs by a mere 1 million viewers.

Something that everyone loves outdrew something that no one loves by 1 million viewers. Interesting.

The NBA finals are on network tv. This was the same cable channel.

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I Predict That the NBA Finals will outdraw the NCAA championship game.


I PREDICT... the NBA Finals will not outdraw The Voice or NCIS.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
long time guy wrote:
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15 million viewers for a Game 7 matchup between G.S.-Houston. Why oh why are they talking NBA? No one cares about it.

https://www.nba.com/article/2018/05/29/ ... tv-history

18 mil at its peak.

That's less average than a blowout NCAA championship game that was down 30 percent because the game wasn't interesting.



So now we are comparing it to the championship game? I Predict That the NBA Finals will outdraw the NCAA championship game. I Also Predict that it will be uninteresting.

What say you?

You do realize that the championship game only outdrew the CFs by a mere 1 million viewers.

Something that everyone loves outdrew something that no one loves by 1 million viewers. Interesting.

The NBA finals are on network tv. This was the same cable channel.



But you are comparing the CFs to a championship telecast


I'm also not interested in changing the debate (though i know you are) Off season Football vs in season NBA. If you want to debate then counter the mendacious stats provided by Juice's Lying Notes. He'll debate you.

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long time guy wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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15 million viewers for a Game 7 matchup between G.S.-Houston. Why oh why are they talking NBA? No one cares about it.

https://www.nba.com/article/2018/05/29/ ... tv-history

18 mil at its peak.

That's less average than a blowout NCAA championship game that was down 30 percent because the game wasn't interesting.



So now we are comparing it to the championship game? I Predict That the NBA Finals will outdraw the NCAA championship game. I Also Predict that it will be uninteresting.

What say you?

You do realize that the championship game only outdrew the CFs by a mere 1 million viewers.

Something that everyone loves outdrew something that no one loves by 1 million viewers. Interesting.

The NBA finals are on network tv. This was the same cable channel.



But you are comparing the CFs to a championship telecast.



this idiotic discussion started off as off-season out of market star NFL player news vs. in season NBA news..... yet now you are celebrating NBA conference finals ratings and wailing against a "nobody wants NBA talk" strawman. you are delusional, and yes i remain impressed by your delusion.


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billypootons wrote:
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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15 million viewers for a Game 7 matchup between G.S.-Houston. Why oh why are they talking NBA? No one cares about it.

https://www.nba.com/article/2018/05/29/ ... tv-history

18 mil at its peak.

That's less average than a blowout NCAA championship game that was down 30 percent because the game wasn't interesting.



So now we are comparing it to the championship game? I Predict That the NBA Finals will outdraw the NCAA championship game. I Also Predict that it will be uninteresting.

What say you?

You do realize that the championship game only outdrew the CFs by a mere 1 million viewers.

Something that everyone loves outdrew something that no one loves by 1 million viewers. Interesting.

The NBA finals are on network tv. This was the same cable channel.



But you are comparing the CFs to a championship telecast.



this idiotic discussion started off as off-season out of market star NFL player news vs. in season NBA news..... yet now you are celebrating NBA conference finals ratings and wailing against a "nobody wants NBA talk" strawman. you are delusional, and yes i remain impressed by your delusion.



Doesn't the playoffs qualify as "in season" or am i missing something?
As far as strawman go are you tone deaf? I can name at least 5 guys that do nothing but bash the shit out of the NBA with the no one cares shit.

They propped into threads for the sole purpose of telling everyone they are idiots for liking the shit. Bite me with the "just ignore them" b.s too if thats your angle. Why don't they simply ignore it if they hate it so much.

Don't shit on people for actually liking something.

You also one sidedly failed to mention how it shifted from Odell Beckham to NFL draft too. I never had a problem with the draft either but they used it as evidence of the entire off season.

This discussuon only became "idiotic" once self anointed hierarchy came out on the losing end of the discussion.

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You like the NBA, and you take anything that could be deemed as negative towards it personal. We got it.



No. My response is to people that take it personally that others may actually like it. Are you tone deaf also or do you actually pay attention and personalize everything? This wasn't started by me in case you haven't noticed.

Read and address what others may think and say for a change.

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You like the NBA, and you take anything that could be deemed as negative towards it personal. We got it.



No. My response os to people that take it personally that others may actually like it. Are you tone deaf also or do you actually pay attention and personalize everything? This wasn't started by me in case you haven't noticed.

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This is a joke right? You didn't start this thread to harp on debate that no one other than you is having?

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Also of note is the difference between the average NFL in-season game and the NFL Draft, 14.9 million and 11 million, respectively. If an off-season NFL event can draw 74% of the eyes that show up for a regular season game, it is likely that off-season talk is more compelling than my conservative 40% figure.

What's more, in 2017 the NFL's strictly national windows (SNF, MNF, TNF) averaged 13.3 million viewers. Now we're looking at the draft drawing 84% of the amount of viewers who show up for national broadcasts. The numbers available really do point to the average NFL fan being very interested in national-level NFL media, regardless of season state. Incorporating even a 70% figure for X in the above calculations results in a tentative Fan Interest Index for the NFL of 2.688, almost double that of the NBA's in-season FII. Even if we assume every NBA fan is interested in consumption of media about the NBA on a national scale (Y=1), a 70% NFL off-season fan interest rate still results in a FII 32% larger than the NBA's.

That is why Chicago sports talk radio talks about Odell Beckham in March over a Jazz-Thunder game the previous night.



This might be one of the dumbest arguments that you have ever attempted to make and that says a lot provided the particular subject. You really aren't particularly bright are you?



You had one incredibly weak retort ("use the average draw of the draft instead of total draw for.....no reason") and now you just have personal attacks and vitriol, despite the tone of the post you quoted being completely neutral.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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You like the NBA, and you take anything that could be deemed as negative towards it personal. We got it.



No. My response os to people that take it personally that others may actually like it. Are you tone deaf also or do you actually pay attention and personalize everything? This wasn't started by me in case you haven't noticed.

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This is a joke right? You didn't start this thread to harp on debate that no one other than you is having?



The topic wasn't wasn't started by me. Do i need to bump some of this stuff so that you can be "awakened"?

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15 million viewers for a Game 7 matchup between G.S.-Houston. Why oh why are they talking NBA? No one cares about it.

https://www.nba.com/article/2018/05/29/ ... tv-history

18 mil at its peak.


I guess you make straw men on the side to supplement your goalpost moving business.

Nobody is saying that nobody cares about the NBA. This whole line aof arguing across multiple threads started because YOU pitched a fit that the NFL was being discussed in March instead of the NBA on chicago sports radio.

You asked how it could possibly be so that radio programmers see off-season NFL discussion as more compelling to their listeners than an out of town NBA matchup as the season winds down. I provided you a plausible explanation in this thread, and your only resort is to call names.

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The topic wasn't wasn't started by me. Do i need to bump some of this stuff so that you can be "awakened"?


My grammar is really poor. Does that mean it was started by you (double negative) or were you just stressing it wasn't started by you? :)

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The topic wasn't wasn't started by me.


YOU STARTED THIS THREAD YOU FUCKING CLOWN.


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Doesn't the playoffs qualify as "in season" or am i missing something?
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you are distorting the original argument... yet again. the original argument was you wanted them to talk NBA regular season instead of national NFL off-season. NBA regular season level of interest to fans does not equal NBA playoff interest... here's a scientific depiction of level of interest.

regular season NBA games <<<<<<<<<< NBA 1st round playoffs <<<<<<<<<< WCF/ECF/NBA Finals.

All anyone tried to explain to you is that there are FAR MORE sports fans who would prefer NFL than NBA... thus purely based on preference of sports of fans..... an NFL off-season star player making news is PROBABLY more interesting to WSCR's audience than regular season NBA talk. that's it. doesnt need to get anymore complicated.


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Come on nba. you want people to watch, put the games on better nights. Thursday is doable, but why not just make it friday? Because sunday night is trash, might as well make that monday. Then you can have wed and another friday or saturday. or if you want sunday, make it 2pm! everyone is out drinking anyway.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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Also of note is the difference between the average NFL in-season game and the NFL Draft, 14.9 million and 11 million, respectively. If an off-season NFL event can draw 74% of the eyes that show up for a regular season game, it is likely that off-season talk is more compelling than my conservative 40% figure.

What's more, in 2017 the NFL's strictly national windows (SNF, MNF, TNF) averaged 13.3 million viewers. Now we're looking at the draft drawing 84% of the amount of viewers who show up for national broadcasts. The numbers available really do point to the average NFL fan being very interested in national-level NFL media, regardless of season state. Incorporating even a 70% figure for X in the above calculations results in a tentative Fan Interest Index for the NFL of 2.688, almost double that of the NBA's in-season FII. Even if we assume every NBA fan is interested in consumption of media about the NBA on a national scale (Y=1), a 70% NFL off-season fan interest rate still results in a FII 32% larger than the NBA's.

That is why Chicago sports talk radio talks about Odell Beckham in March over a Jazz-Thunder game the previous night.



This might be one of the dumbest arguments that you have ever attempted to make and that says a lot provided the particular subject. You really aren't particularly bright are you?



You had one incredibly weak retort ("use the average draw of the draft instead of total draw for.....no reason") and now you just have personal attacks and vitriol, despite the tone of the post you quoted being completely neutral.

Do you have anger issues?



Do you actually have common sense? The reason for not using the total draw is because the total draw (you may not have noticed) stretched out over three days. No matter the metric you use you lose. You have no problem talking about a "meaningless regular season game between Milwaukee and Utah" whenever it floats your boat but for some reason you take issue with talking about days 2 and 3 of the draft. Is there any doubt as to whether we'd be arguing this if the numbers were actually in your favor?


First day of the draft 11 million viewers over 6 channels


Second Day 2 Million over 6 channels


Third Day 2 million over 6 channels. Why is it so difficult for you understand? The first day of the draft is the only day that people are really interested in and a Meaningless game between "Utah and Milwaukee" probably will outdraw days 2 and 3.

People actually care about the NBA more during NFL off Season. Get over it. The NBA has about 10 inseason events that outdraw the highest rated event (first day of the NFL draft) during its season and post season. Again get over it.

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long time guy wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
long time guy wrote:
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15 million viewers for a Game 7 matchup between G.S.-Houston. Why oh why are they talking NBA? No one cares about it.

https://www.nba.com/article/2018/05/29/ ... tv-history

18 mil at its peak.

That's less average than a blowout NCAA championship game that was down 30 percent because the game wasn't interesting.



So now we are comparing it to the championship game? I Predict That the NBA Finals will outdraw the NCAA championship game. I Also Predict that it will be uninteresting.

What say you?

You do realize that the championship game only outdrew the CFs by a mere 1 million viewers.

Something that everyone loves outdrew something that no one loves by 1 million viewers. Interesting.

The NBA finals are on network tv. This was the same cable channel.



But you are comparing the CFs to a championship telecast


I'm also not interested in changing the debate (though i know you are) Off season Football vs in season NBA. If you want to debate then counter the mendacious stats provided by Juice's Lying Notes. He'll debate you.

The point is those numbers aren't impressive. No one expects in season college basketball talk over the off-season NFL. College basketball beat a game 7 in the NBA. That shows the interest level.

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Doesn't the playoffs qualify as "in season" or am i missing something?
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you are distorting the original argument... yet again. the original argument was you wanted them to talk NBA regular season instead of national NFL off-season. NBA regular season level of interest to fans does not equal NBA playoff interest... here's a scientific depiction of level of interest.

regular season NBA games <<<<<<<<<< NBA 1st round playoffs <<<<<<<<<< WCF/ECF/NBA Finals.

All anyone tried to explain to you is that there are FAR MORE sports fans who would prefer NFL than NBA... thus purely based on preference of sports of fans..... an NFL off-season star player making news is PROBABLY more interesting to WSCR's audience than regular season NBA talk. that's it. doesnt need to get anymore complicated.



You are distorting it. NBA playoffs (which McNeil never discusses) is part of NBA inseason. Now you are speculating on what is and what isn't important. People care more in Chicago about Lebron James than they do Odell Beckham. They care more about Steph Curry than they do Odell Beckham. You probably don't and that is your choice but don't presume to speak for everyone else. It isn't news if he "may be on the block". It is only news if he is on the block and the talks are serious to be frank. Sports talk radio in this city can continue to cater to its niche audience if it likes and it will continue to place 23 and 24 th in the ratings as it has for the past 25 years or so. It isn't growing because it has never made an effort to grow its audience.

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Doesn't the playoffs qualify as "in season" or am i missing something?
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you are distorting the original argument... yet again. the original argument was you wanted them to talk NBA regular season instead of national NFL off-season. NBA regular season level of interest to fans does not equal NBA playoff interest... here's a scientific depiction of level of interest.

regular season NBA games <<<<<<<<<< NBA 1st round playoffs <<<<<<<<<< WCF/ECF/NBA Finals.

All anyone tried to explain to you is that there are FAR MORE sports fans who would prefer NFL than NBA... thus purely based on preference of sports of fans..... an NFL off-season star player making news is PROBABLY more interesting to WSCR's audience than regular season NBA talk. that's it. doesnt need to get anymore complicated.



You are distorting it. NBA playoffs (which McNeil never discusses) is part of NBA inseason. Now you are speculating on what is and what isn't important. People care more in Chicago about Lebron James than they do Odell Beckham. They care more about Steph Curry than they do Odell Beckham. You probably don't and that is your choice but don't presume to speak for everyone else. It isn't news if he "may be on the block". It is only news if he is on the block and the talks are serious to be frank. Sports talk radio in this city can continue to cater to its niche audience if it likes and it will continue to place 23 and 24 th in the ratings as it has for the past 25 years or so. It isn't growing because it has never made an effort to grow its audience.


my god you are dense. your original complaint was made in march. why are you bringing NBA playoffs in to it? March!!!!! I can't quit you though, it's fun arguing against dense people. I guess im a glutton for punishment


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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long time guy wrote:
15 million viewers for a Game 7 matchup between G.S.-Houston. Why oh why are they talking NBA? No one cares about it.

https://www.nba.com/article/2018/05/29/ ... tv-history

18 mil at its peak.

That's less average than a blowout NCAA championship game that was down 30 percent because the game wasn't interesting.



So now we are comparing it to the championship game? I Predict That the NBA Finals will outdraw the NCAA championship game. I Also Predict that it will be uninteresting.

What say you?

You do realize that the championship game only outdrew the CFs by a mere 1 million viewers.

Something that everyone loves outdrew something that no one loves by 1 million viewers. Interesting.

The NBA finals are on network tv. This was the same cable channel.



But you are comparing the CFs to a championship telecast


I'm also not interested in changing the debate (though i know you are) Off season Football vs in season NBA. If you want to debate then counter the mendacious stats provided by Juice's Lying Notes. He'll debate you.

The point is those numbers aren't impressive. No one expects in season college basketball talk over the off-season NFL. College basketball beat a game 7 in the NBA. That shows the interest level.


Here comes the Brick! Here Comes the Brick! Here comes the requisite spin job that he brings to every discussion. Ain't gone fly guy. Love the way the NCAA championship game was referred to as the very generalized "college basketball". If I use the highest rated game of the NBA finals what do you think it would do to "College Basketball"?

2ndly i'm not interested in talking about that as that isn't my argument. You can talk to yourself if that is your angle.

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The topic wasn't wasn't started by me.


YOU STARTED THIS THREAD YOU FUCKING CLOWN.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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Also of note is the difference between the average NFL in-season game and the NFL Draft, 14.9 million and 11 million, respectively. If an off-season NFL event can draw 74% of the eyes that show up for a regular season game, it is likely that off-season talk is more compelling than my conservative 40% figure.

What's more, in 2017 the NFL's strictly national windows (SNF, MNF, TNF) averaged 13.3 million viewers. Now we're looking at the draft drawing 84% of the amount of viewers who show up for national broadcasts. The numbers available really do point to the average NFL fan being very interested in national-level NFL media, regardless of season state. Incorporating even a 70% figure for X in the above calculations results in a tentative Fan Interest Index for the NFL of 2.688, almost double that of the NBA's in-season FII. Even if we assume every NBA fan is interested in consumption of media about the NBA on a national scale (Y=1), a 70% NFL off-season fan interest rate still results in a FII 32% larger than the NBA's.

That is why Chicago sports talk radio talks about Odell Beckham in March over a Jazz-Thunder game the previous night.



This might be one of the dumbest arguments that you have ever attempted to make and that says a lot provided the particular subject. You really aren't particularly bright are you?



You had one incredibly weak retort ("use the average draw of the draft instead of total draw for.....no reason") and now you just have personal attacks and vitriol, despite the tone of the post you quoted being completely neutral.

Do you have anger issues?



Do you actually have common sense? The reason for not using the total draw is because the total draw (you may not have noticed) stretched out over three days. No matter the metric you use you lose.






No, the 11.2 million figure is the average amount of people watching over the life of the broadcast of Round 1, which is approximately a three hour event, just like an NFL game. It is perfectly acceptable to use the average amount of viewers for that day. Just because you don't like the result doesn't change that.

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Because you disingenuously want to incorporate them into an average instead of a total, knowing full-well that the lower numbers will drag down the average. What you may not be able to comprehend, though, is that averaging the viewership across all three days of the draft is pointless masturbation. It tells us nothing of use. The fact is, an average of 11.2 million people were interested in an off-season NFL event. Deal with it.

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Second Day 2 Million over 6 channels


Third Day 2 million over 6 channels.


11.2, 2.9 and 2.9 million, but yeah, keep showcasing just how disingenuous you will be. You'll notice in my bar napkin math I always rounded up.

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Funny you should say that, because a Cavs-Raptors match up in January of this year drew 1.8 million viewers on TNT, and that night across three national networks the NBA slate of games nabbed a total of 2.13 million viewers.

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2018/01 ... s-raptors/

Is 2.9 million larger or smaller than 2.13 million?

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People actually care about the NBA more during NFL off Season. Get over it.


You literally have no evidence to show this, and I have shown you a metric shit ton of it.

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The NBA has about 10 inseason events that outdraw the highest rated event (first day of the NFL draft) during its season and post season. Again get over it.


......do you think the draft is the highest-rated in- or post-season event for the NFL?


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Doesn't the playoffs qualify as "in season" or am i missing something?
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you are distorting the original argument... yet again. the original argument was you wanted them to talk NBA regular season instead of national NFL off-season. NBA regular season level of interest to fans does not equal NBA playoff interest... here's a scientific depiction of level of interest.

regular season NBA games <<<<<<<<<< NBA 1st round playoffs <<<<<<<<<< WCF/ECF/NBA Finals.

All anyone tried to explain to you is that there are FAR MORE sports fans who would prefer NFL than NBA... thus purely based on preference of sports of fans..... an NFL off-season star player making news is PROBABLY more interesting to WSCR's audience than regular season NBA talk. that's it. doesnt need to get anymore complicated.



You are distorting it. NBA playoffs (which McNeil never discusses) is part of NBA inseason. Now you are speculating on what is and what isn't important. People care more in Chicago about Lebron James than they do Odell Beckham. They care more about Steph Curry than they do Odell Beckham. You probably don't and that is your choice but don't presume to speak for everyone else. It isn't news if he "may be on the block". It is only news if he is on the block and the talks are serious to be frank. Sports talk radio in this city can continue to cater to its niche audience if it likes and it will continue to place 23 and 24 th in the ratings as it has for the past 25 years or so. It isn't growing because it has never made an effort to grow its audience.


my god you are dense. your original complaint was made in march. why are you bringing NBA playoffs in to it? March!!!!! I can't quit you though, it's fun arguing against dense people. I guess im a glutton for punishment


No you are dense and My original point was made in Late March March 26 I believe which is 2 weeks prior to the start of the NBA playoffs. I don't need a replay from you as I started the damn threads. My complaint was in regards to NBA playoff talk (playoff race) and the fact that they spent two segments talking Odell Beckham when that was going on. Playoffs were always part of it and it really became a part of it because they referenced the Draft. Does the draft take place in March? Did you have a problem with that?


It is obvious that people are interested in the NBA. That bothers some people on here for idiotic reason. You may be one of them. If it does get over it. The NBA is here to stay and it is in fact growing. Deal with it.

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The topic wasn't wasn't started by me.

YOU STARTED THIS THREAD YOU FUCKING CLOWN.
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Also of note is the difference between the average NFL in-season game and the NFL Draft, 14.9 million and 11 million, respectively. If an off-season NFL event can draw 74% of the eyes that show up for a regular season game, it is likely that off-season talk is more compelling than my conservative 40% figure.

What's more, in 2017 the NFL's strictly national windows (SNF, MNF, TNF) averaged 13.3 million viewers. Now we're looking at the draft drawing 84% of the amount of viewers who show up for national broadcasts. The numbers available really do point to the average NFL fan being very interested in national-level NFL media, regardless of season state. Incorporating even a 70% figure for X in the above calculations results in a tentative Fan Interest Index for the NFL of 2.688, almost double that of the NBA's in-season FII. Even if we assume every NBA fan is interested in consumption of media about the NBA on a national scale (Y=1), a 70% NFL off-season fan interest rate still results in a FII 32% larger than the NBA's.

That is why Chicago sports talk radio talks about Odell Beckham in March over a Jazz-Thunder game the previous night.



This might be one of the dumbest arguments that you have ever attempted to make and that says a lot provided the particular subject. You really aren't particularly bright are you?



You had one incredibly weak retort ("use the average draw of the draft instead of total draw for.....no reason") and now you just have personal attacks and vitriol, despite the tone of the post you quoted being completely neutral.

Do you have anger issues?



Do you actually have common sense? The reason for not using the total draw is because the total draw (you may not have noticed) stretched out over three days. No matter the metric you use you lose.






No, the 11.2 million figure is the average amount of people watching over the life of the broadcast of Round 1, which is approximately a three hour event, just like an NFL game. It is perfectly acceptable to use the average amount of viewers for that day. Just because you don't like the result doesn't change that.

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You have no problem talking about a "meaningless regular season game between Milwaukee and Utah" whenever it floats your boat but for some reason you take issue with talking about days 2 and 3 of the draft. Is there any doubt as to whether we'd be arguing this if the numbers were actually in your favor?


Because you disingenuously want to incorporate them into an average instead of a total, knowing full-well that the lower numbers will drag down the average. What you may not be able to comprehend, though, is that averaging the viewership across all three days of the draft is pointless masturbation. It tells us nothing of use. The fact is, an average of 11.2 million people were interested in an off-season NFL event. Deal with it.



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11.2, 2.9 and 2.9 million, but yeah, keep showcasing just how disingenuous you will be. You'll notice in my bar napkin math I always rounded up.


You are talking about "disingenuous" when you just attempted to pass 11 mil off as the "norm"? i left out decimal points so what.

15 million people watched the highest rated show of the NBA season to date.

11 Million people watched the highest rated show of the NFL off season to date.

Juice's Lying Notes What evidence could possibly have which suggests more than that?

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You are talking about "disingenuous" when you just attempted to pass 11 mil off as the "norm"? i left out decimal points so what.

15 million people watched the highest rated show of the NBA season to date.

11 Million people watched the highest rated show of the NFL off season to date.

Juice's Lying Notes What evidence could possibly have which suggests more than that?


So your answer to me pointing out you being disingenuous in lopping off decimals to make NFL audiences appear smaller is to ramp up how disingenuous you can be and call an NBA Playoff game a "show of the NBA season"....when your original bitching started in March?

And then you call me a liar? :lol:


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The topic wasn't wasn't started by me.

YOU STARTED THIS THREAD YOU FUCKING CLOWN.
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This is what idiots like you don't realize. I didn't actually start this discussion. This discussion was started by all of the biased "woke" fools years ago on here. This thread and the other one was a response to it. Sense clowns like you are really too tone deaf or disinterested to ever see it it wasn't me that first made an issue as to whether "people care about the NBA" The fool that you are in agreement with and others started this chatter and after awhile I decided to chime in about it.


The non stop NBA bashing didn't bother you but as typical only the response did. Enough of the "woke" bullshit and constant undertones too. Not from you I don't think but others. For some reason the same group that constantly bitches and moans about "SJW" "woke" and the like are the only ones that ever talk about it. None of the people that routinely discuss things in the NBA threads ever talk about that as a reason for liking the league. They talk about the game. That bothers those that can't seem to look past the cultural stuff for some reason.

The fact remains that more people are interested in the NBA during the NFL offseason than they are the NFL. Again deal with it

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