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FF is having a solid week. I've agreed with him more this week than I have in all his years posting combined.

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FF is having a solid week. I've agreed with him more this week than I have in all his years posting combined.


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Stop acting like a 5 year old.


yep... like i postulated after the NUH UH comes the ad hominems... in this case only children have different thoughts on the refugee issue.

so when i say something like "most of these refugees are young men" i get belted back with a "NOT EVEN CLOSE TO ACCURATE" like i was supposed to bring facts/evidence/etc to the argument.... but you're able to express an opinion without anything to fortify it, and if this carries on it's just an ad hominem back at people who disagree with you?

and btw FF, before you get on some cross/high-horse/etc about living with/by refugees, i live right by a fucking mosque and i have no problems with the preponderance of locals who happen to be of a different persuasion than myself. yeah traffic sucks on friday afternoons and you never get quite used to seeing people in full burkas, but like, idk if importing millions of syrians is going to help anything cuz as it is we're what, 17-18 trillion in debt? importing tens-to-hundreds of thousands if not millions of new ppl who start out on the dole and will fight for the jobs that seemingly aren't there = how is that gonna help anything? do we have some birth rate crisis that seems to be the #1 reason for everything in europe?

or is this just about looking good to the rest of the world like "hey this is all on credit we're not ever gonna pay back anyways so we might as well do the right thing so we look better to the world?" -- pardon me for being selfish and wondering what's in it for us as a country, but at least europe has that low birth rate shit so they can claim civilization will collapse without them.... what's our reason/s?

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Sini, did you not see the link to the percentage in FF's post? Or do you refute those numbers?

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go figure contrarian troll nas is on board with this. he just needed to step up and own the issue like he did with the rape epidemic on college campuses nationwide!

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Since the beginning of fiscal year 2016, which began on Oct. 1, the United States has admitted 351 refugees from Syria, according to State Department Refugee Processing Center data.

Of those 351 Syrian refugees, 346 (98.6 percent) have been Sunni Muslims. Only 5 (1.4 percent) have been Christians. The Christians included three Catholics, one Orthodox and one of unspecified denomination.

The majority of the 351 Syrian refugees (191) have been male, the minority female (160.)

64 (or 18 percent of the total of 351) have been men between the ages of 14 and 40, according to the State Department data.

The age and gender breakdown of Syrian refugee arrivals since Oct. 1 is:

Under 14: 96 male 77 female

14-40: 64 male 68 female

Over 40: 31 male 15 female

Total: 191 male 160 female

Of the 351 refugees, 28 have been settled in Arizona, 44 in California, 12 in Connecticut, 12 in Florida, seven in Georgia, 22 in Illinois, 10 in Indiana, 38 in Kentucky, six in Louisiana, five in Maryland, one in Massachusetts, 23 in Michigan, 11 in New Jersey, seven in New York, seven in North Carolina, 30 in Ohio, four in Oregon, 40 in Pennsylvania, 35 in Texas and nine in Washington stat

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Damn, BRO, Sini has 'em spinnin' in circles on this one.


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By far the largest number of Syrian refugee admissions into the U.S. since the civil war began in March 2011 took place in FY 2015 (Oct. 1, 2014-Sept. 30, 2015), when 1,682 arrived – or 75.6 percent of the total 2,224 who have been admitted since 2011.

Of those 1,682 admissions in FY 2015, 1,573 (93.5 percent) were Sunni Muslims. An additional 53 were described as simply “Moslem” and 10 were Shia. Only 30 (1.8 percent) were Christian. Accounting for the rest were six Zoroastrians, two Baha’i, two atheists, five of “other religion,” and one described as having “no religion.”

Of the 1,682 refugees settled in FY 2015, 367 (21.8 percent) are men aged between 14 and 40.

The age and gender breakdown of those 1,682 refugees is:

Under 14: 385 male 346 female

14-40: 367 male 356 female

Over 40: 132 male 96 female

Total: 884 male 798 female

Over the entire period since the Syrian conflict began, 2,224 Syrian refugees have been admitted to the U.S., as of Wednesday. Of them, 2,065 (92.8 percent) were Sunni Muslims, an additional 60 were “Moslem,” and 13 were Shia. Only 53 (2.4 percent) were Christian (including five Orthodox and four Catholics). The remaining religious breakdown was eight Jehovah’s Witness, six Zoroastrians, two Baha’i, three atheists, one Yazidi, seven “no religion” and six “other religion.”

Of the total 2,224 Syrian refugees admitted since March 2011, 480 (21.6 percent) are men aged between 14 and 40.

The age and gender breakdown is:

Under 14: 513 male 454 female

14-40: 480 male 471 female

Over 40: 181 male 125 female

Total: 1,174 male 1,050 female

Therefore, one in five of the Syrian refugees allowed entry into the U.S. since the conflict began are men aged 14-40, and the vast majority of them are Sunni Muslim.

The terror attacks in Paris triggered a fiery debate in the U.S. on President Obama’s plan to bring 10,000 Syrian refugees into the country during the current fiscal year.

Obama on Wednesday mocked Republican presidential candidates who oppose the plan, accusing them of being “scared of widows and orphans.”

State Department spokesman John Kirby was asked at a briefing Wednesday if any refugee applicants from Syria have been denied admission because of terrorist sympathies or links.

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FF is having a solid week. I've agreed with him more this week than I have in all his years posting combined.


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So we have FF and chas posting statistics that a small minority of refugees are men aged 14-40.

We have a consensus!

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Sini, did you not see the link to the percentage in FF's post? Or do you refute those numbers?

Just curious.


i went back through this page and the one b4 it and didnt see any %s. but hey i'm sure that studies by the council for responsible immigration are going to paint this in the most humanitarian light possible. i know the UN says the majority are women and children so i'm sure that's what he's talking about.

ah well, here's an article that scoffs at the UN figures which i reckon make it seem like it's mostly women and children going solo. i don't especially trust the UN too much, but hey they're the UN and i'm just some racist xenophobe on the internet so what do i know >> https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/conten ... -refugees/

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So we have FF and chas posting statistics that a small minority of refugees are men aged 14-40.

We have a consensus!


well hey if it's all women and children migrating away maybe all the young men hung around and joined ISIS? =D

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Sini, did you not see the link to the percentage in FF's post? Or do you refute those numbers?

Just curious.


i went back through this page and the one b4 it and didnt see any %s. but hey i'm sure that studies by the council for responsible immigration are going to paint this in the most humanitarian light possible. i know the UN says the majority are women and children so i'm sure that's what he's talking about.

ah well, here's an article that scoffs at the UN figures which i reckon make it seem like it's mostly women and children going solo. i don't especially trust the UN too much, but hey they're the UN and i'm just some racist xenophobe on the internet so what do i know >> https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/conten ... -refugees/


That is an article about "refugees" flooding Europe and not the ones coming to the U.S.


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Sini, did you not see the link to the percentage in FF's post? Or do you refute those numbers?

Just curious.


i went back through this page and the one b4 it and didnt see any %s. but hey i'm sure that studies by the council for responsible immigration are going to paint this in the most humanitarian light possible. i know the UN says the majority are women and children so i'm sure that's what he's talking about.

ah well, here's an article that scoffs at the UN figures which i reckon make it seem like it's mostly women and children going solo. i don't especially trust the UN too much, but hey they're the UN and i'm just some racist xenophobe on the internet so what do i know >> https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/conten ... -refugees/

viewtopic.php?f=100&t=97293&start=75#p2364514

I'm sure you will respond by saying you still can't find it. It's probably not even a lie.

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So we have FF and chas posting statistics that a small minority of refugees are men aged 14-40.

We have a consensus!


That is just the in the US . that is a majority of the overall if you look at the numbers. You have to take the 14-40 age group in total both male and female as they use both genders.

Here is world wide
http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/regional.php

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Male (49.7%) Age (50.3%) Female
8.9% 0 - 4 8.4%
10.8% 5 - 11 10.3%
6.6% 12 - 17 6.2%
22.1% 18 - 59 23.7%
1.3% 60 + 1.7%

If you look at the total for the age of potential fighter you have a 28.7% on the male side and 29.9% on the female. That give you a whopping 58.6%.

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Pfft. Women aren't fighters.

Everyone know that.

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Pfft. Women aren't fighters.

Everyone know that.


Most women that have children aren't 65. #Science

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If you look at the total for the age of potential fighter you have a 28.7% on the male side and 29.9% on the female. That give you a whopping 58.6%.

Everybody is a potential fighter.... so if you take both sides that gives you a whopping 100%! Holy shit, we're fucked.

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If you look at the total for the age of potential fighter you have a 28.7% on the male side and 29.9% on the female. That give you a whopping 58.6%.

Everybody is a potential fighter.... so if you take both sides that gives you a whopping 100%! Holy shit, we're fucked.


Better start brushing up on your Arabic.

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If you look at the total for the age of potential fighter you have a 28.7% on the male side and 29.9% on the female. That give you a whopping 58.6%.

Everybody is a potential fighter.... so if you take both sides that gives you a whopping 100%! Holy shit, we're fucked.


Better start brushing up on your Arabic.

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If you look at the total for the age of potential fighter you have a 28.7% on the male side and 29.9% on the female. That give you a whopping 58.6%.

Everybody is a potential fighter.... so if you take both sides that gives you a whopping 100%! Holy shit, we're fucked.


Better start brushing up on your Arabic.

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If you look at the total for the age of potential fighter you have a 28.7% on the male side and 29.9% on the female. That give you a whopping 58.6%.

Everybody is a potential fighter.... so if you take both sides that gives you a whopping 100%! Holy shit, we're fucked.

Come on be serious and honest. You all rip on me for statements like that.

why not kep them in thier home country and let them fight for it themselves instead of us?

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If you look at the total for the age of potential fighter you have a 28.7% on the male side and 29.9% on the female. That give you a whopping 58.6%.

Everybody is a potential fighter.... so if you take both sides that gives you a whopping 100%! Holy shit, we're fucked.

Come on be serious and honest. You all rip on me for statements like that.

why not kep them in thier home country and let them fight for it themselves instead of us?

Well, there's a couple things here.

The civil war in Syria that's been going on for years has left the country in absolute ruin. If they stay in Syria, they have a choice between Assad, and ISIS. Over 60% of Syria is now in extreme poverty, and this civil war has caused the life expectancy in the country to drop by 20 years. If everyone tells the refugees "tough shit, stay there", they are practically begging them to join the ranks of ISIS. They won't have many other options. It would be a much better option for the refugees and the world if we can help them successfully relocate.

The second thing is that telling the refugees to fuck off doesn't really help the US or France, and it does nothing to prevent more terrorist attacks, which seems to be the main objective of everybody at the current moment. We need to be reaching out to Muslims who are against ISIS and get their aid in helping us fight ISIS. If we continue to demonize all Muslims, and group all of them together as terrorists or possible terrorists, we are actually helping ISIS and actively alienating potentially our biggest allies against them. Read the link below. We have help in this war against ISIS. Let's let them help.

https://reason.com/archives/2015/11/19/ ... ar-on-isis

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If you look at the total for the age of potential fighter you have a 28.7% on the male side and 29.9% on the female. That give you a whopping 58.6%.

Everybody is a potential fighter.... so if you take both sides that gives you a whopping 100%! Holy shit, we're fucked.

You can't add percentages and have the numbers work. If you did your total pool of people becomes 200% and the.

so it's still under 30 at fighting age.


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this makes me wonder why you're even on a messageboard in the first place. you know what everyone is going to say, and then if you decide to read it anyways you're just reading the words of xenophobic racist bigoted children having a temper tantrum so their words are meaningless to you, the most patriotic dude on the board i reckon cuz you got snowden draped in red white and blue like he was a TRUE patriot for standing up to big brother/government even tho, at least to them, they're trying to do the right thing.

what if i called you childish and bigoted and whatever the opposite of xenophobic is for championing a traitor to the USA (by the letter of the law) -- on one hand you promote the NSA IS EEEEEVVVIIILLLL thing by pimping snowden in your avatar, but on the other hand you're pro-refugees/pro-establishment like only children are against that.

have you ever stopped and thought about WHY these refugees/muslims/ISIS are useful idiots (any terrorist who's willing to kill themselves to take out 5-50ppl is, IMO, an idiot) are being brought in all over? one way or another (monitoring muslims directly or the "patriot groups" bigtime against this), it's to prop up the NSA/surveilance/police-state apparatus that your avatar would have me thinking that you're against, but now you're all for something that ostensibly is happening to strengthen that apparatus that you're against? cognitive dissonance dude.... that's what it is.

at least it's IMU as opposed to you who's personally trying to make up for the crusades or the end of the ottoman empire with this refugee stuff.

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pity our government thinks that about us, eh? see: your avatar!

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this makes me wonder why you're even on a messageboard in the first place. you know what everyone is going to say, and then if you decide to read it anyways you're just reading the words of xenophobic racist bigoted children having a temper tantrum so their words are meaningless to you, the most patriotic dude on the board i reckon cuz you got snowden draped in red white and blue like he was a TRUE patriot for standing up to big brother/government even tho, at least to them, they're trying to do the right thing.

what if i called you childish and bigoted and whatever the opposite of xenophobic is for championing a traitor to the USA (by the letter of the law) -- on one hand you promote the NSA IS EEEEEVVVIIILLLL thing by pimping snowden in your avatar, but on the other hand you're pro-refugees/pro-establishment like only children are against that.

have you ever stopped and thought about WHY these refugees/muslims/ISIS are useful idiots (any terrorist who's willing to kill themselves to take out 5-50ppl is, IMO, an idiot) are being brought in all over? one way or another (monitoring muslims directly or the "patriot groups" bigtime against this), it's to prop up the NSA/surveilance/police-state apparatus that your avatar would have me thinking that you're against, but now you're all for something that ostensibly is happening to strengthen that apparatus that you're against? cognitive dissonance dude.... that's what it is.

at least it's IMU as opposed to you who's personally trying to make up for the crusades or the end of the ottoman empire with this refugee stuff.

When did I ever call you racist or xenophobic? Respond to what I said, not some made up shit. All I am doing is saying why I think we should allow refugees in.

How is Snowden a traitor by the letter of the law? Who did he betray?

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