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He helped design the the Cambodian-Cover-2 Defense.
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| Author: | Nas [ Tue May 03, 2016 7:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Donald Trump |
Like him or not what he's done is really impressive. |
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| Author: | Curious Hair [ Tue May 03, 2016 7:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
It's true. Guy barely even has a campaign staff. I think it's Corey Lewandowski and a couple circus monkeys. |
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| Author: | MajorKong [ Tue May 03, 2016 7:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
Staving off baldness? |
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| Author: | Peoria Matt [ Tue May 03, 2016 7:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
Nas wrote: Like him or not what he's done is really impressive. "Make America White Again" appeals to a lot of people. |
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| Author: | MajorKong [ Tue May 03, 2016 7:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
Peoria Matt wrote: Nas wrote: Like him or not what he's done is really impressive. "Make America White Again" appeals to a lot of people. I read this pretty fascinating article about how Trump is tapping into a fascistic/authoritarian undercurrent in America that doesn't necessarily break along party lines. Maybe its already been shared here, but if you haven't read it its worth digesting. http://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11127424/trump-authoritarianism |
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| Author: | Curious Hair [ Tue May 03, 2016 7:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
Vox sucks hard, but yes, Trump has captured America's rude authoritarians. Polite authoritarians lean toward Hillary. |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Tue May 03, 2016 7:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
We disagree on this. I find his stamina and energy impressivex but I believe his personality is more right place/right time. |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Tue May 03, 2016 7:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
I said before he is dangerous to the GOP. Now they see. For whatever reason he crosses all sorts of traditional voting blocks. HRC and the Dems better have a good plan. |
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| Author: | Peoria Matt [ Tue May 03, 2016 7:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
MajorKong wrote: Peoria Matt wrote: Nas wrote: Like him or not what he's done is really impressive. "Make America White Again" appeals to a lot of people. I read this pretty fascinating article about how Trump is tapping into a fascistic/authoritarian undercurrent in America that doesn't necessarily break along party lines. Maybe its already been shared here, but if you haven't read it its worth digesting. http://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11127424/trump-authoritarianism My God, Kong. Talk about TL;DR |
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| Author: | Nas [ Tue May 03, 2016 7:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
pittmike wrote: I said before he is dangerous to the GOP. Now they see. For whatever reason he crosses all sorts of traditional voting blocks. HRC and the Dems better have a good plan. No doubt about it. He knows how to brand his opponents and make it stick. He'll also dominate the 24 hours news cycle and hit Hillary and Bill in ways they've never been publicly hit. As scary as it may be to some we may be looking at a President Trump in January. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Tue May 03, 2016 7:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
Peoria Matt wrote: MajorKong wrote: Peoria Matt wrote: Nas wrote: Like him or not what he's done is really impressive. "Make America White Again" appeals to a lot of people. I read this pretty fascinating article about how Trump is tapping into a fascistic/authoritarian undercurrent in America that doesn't necessarily break along party lines. Maybe its already been shared here, but if you haven't read it its worth digesting. http://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11127424/trump-authoritarianism My God, Kong. Talk about TL;DR I asked smmry.com for twelve sentences ... take it or leave it: Their book concluded that the GOP, by positioning itself as the party of traditional values and law and order, had unknowingly attracted what would turn out to be a vast and previously bipartisan population of Americans with authoritarian tendencies. "Donald Trump could be just the first of many Trumps in American politics" Shortly after the Iowa Republican caucus, in which Trump came in a close second, Vox partnered with the Washington-based media and polling company Morning Consult to test American authoritarians along a range of political and social views - and to test some hypotheses we had developed after speaking with the leading political scientists of the field. The field, after a breakthrough in the early 1990s, has come to develop the contours of a grand theory of authoritarianism, culminating quite recently, in 2005, with Stenner's seminal The Authoritarian Dynamic - just in time for that theory to seemingly come true, more rapidly and in greater force than any of them had imagined, in the personage of one Donald Trump and his norm-shattering rise. It is as if, the NYU professor Jonathan Haidt has written, a button is pushed that says, "In case of moral threat, lock down the borders, kick out those who are different, and punish those who are morally deviant." "Authoritarians are a real constituency that exists independently of Trump - and will persist as a force in American politics" Authoritarians prioritize social order and hierarchies, which bring a sense of control to a chaotic world. There was now a way to identify people who fit the authoritarian profile, by prizing order and conformity, for example, and desiring the imposition of those values. We wanted to look at the role authoritarians are playing in the election: Were they driving certain policy positions, for example? We wanted to better understand the larger forces that had suddenly made authoritarians so numerous and so extreme - was it migration, terrorism, perhaps the decline of working-class whites? And maybe most of all, we wanted to develop some theories about what the rise of American authoritarianism meant for the future of polarization between the parties as well as a Republican Party that had become both more extreme and internally divided. Morning Consult data scientist Adam Petrihos said that "Among Republicans, very high/high authoritarianism is very predictive of support for Trump." Trump has 42 percent support among Republicans but, according to our survey, a full 52 percent support among very high authoritarians. Twenty-eight percent rated same-sex marriage as "Very bad" for America, and another 16 percent said that it's "Bad." Only about 35 percent of high-scoring authoritarians said same-sex marriage was "Good" or "Very good" for the country. The fact that authoritarians and non-authoritarians split over something as seemingly personal and nonthreatening as same-sex marriage is crucial for understanding how authoritarianism can be triggered by even a social change as minor as expanding marriage rights. "We may now have a de facto three-party system: the Democrats, the GOP establishment, and the GOP authoritarians" But while the party may try to match Trump's authoritarian rhetoric, and its candidates may grudgingly embrace some of his harsher policies toward immigrants or Muslims, in the end a mainstream political party cannot fully commit to extreme authoritarian action the way Trump can. Although the latter two groups are presently forced into an awkward coalition, the GOP establishment has demonstrated a complete inability to regain control over the renegade authoritarians, and the authoritarians are actively opposed to the establishment's centrist goals and uninterested in its economic platform. For decades, the Republican Party has been winning over authoritarians by implicitly promising to stand firm against the tide of social change, and to be the party of force and power rather than the party of negotiation and compromise. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Tue May 03, 2016 7:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
Don Tiny wrote: The field, after a breakthrough in the early 1990s, has come to develop the contours of a grand theory of authoritarianism, culminating quite recently, in 2005, with Stenner's seminal The Authoritarian Dynamic - just in time for that theory to seemingly come true, more rapidly and in greater force than any of them had imagined, in the personage of one Donald Trump and his norm-shattering rise. 2005.
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Tue May 03, 2016 7:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: Don Tiny wrote: The field, after a breakthrough in the early 1990s, has come to develop the contours of a grand theory of authoritarianism, culminating quite recently, in 2005, with Stenner's seminal The Authoritarian Dynamic - just in time for that theory to seemingly come true, more rapidly and in greater force than any of them had imagined, in the personage of one Donald Trump and his norm-shattering rise. 2005.Kenny + Trump + Pol Pot = MATCH ? |
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| Author: | Peoria Matt [ Tue May 03, 2016 8:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
Did Pol Pot's kid play for the Niners? |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Tue May 03, 2016 8:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
Peoria Matt wrote: Did Pol Pot's kid play for the Niners? He helped design the the Cambodian-Cover-2 Defense. |
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| Author: | Peoria Matt [ Tue May 03, 2016 8:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
Don Tiny wrote: Peoria Matt wrote: Did Pol Pot's kid play for the Niners? He helped design the the Cambodian-Cover-2 Defense.
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| Author: | Sir Loin Of Beef [ Tue May 03, 2016 8:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
Nas wrote: pittmike wrote: I said before he is dangerous to the GOP. Now they see. For whatever reason he crosses all sorts of traditional voting blocks. HRC and the Dems better have a good plan. No doubt about it. He knows how to brand his opponents and make it stick. He'll also dominate the 24 hours news cycle and hit Hillary and Bill in ways they've never been publicly hit. As scary as it may be to some we may be looking at a President Trump in January. This is never going to happen. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Tue May 03, 2016 8:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
Sir Loin Of Beef wrote: Nas wrote: pittmike wrote: I said before he is dangerous to the GOP. Now they see. For whatever reason he crosses all sorts of traditional voting blocks. HRC and the Dems better have a good plan. No doubt about it. He knows how to brand his opponents and make it stick. He'll also dominate the 24 hours news cycle and hit Hillary and Bill in ways they've never been publicly hit. As scary as it may be to some we may be looking at a President Trump in January. This is never going to happen. Many said the same thing about winning the GOP nomination. Rasmussen has him leading in the polls. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Tue May 03, 2016 8:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
Sir Loin Of Beef wrote: Nas wrote: pittmike wrote: I said before he is dangerous to the GOP. Now they see. For whatever reason he crosses all sorts of traditional voting blocks. HRC and the Dems better have a good plan. No doubt about it. He knows how to brand his opponents and make it stick. He'll also dominate the 24 hours news cycle and hit Hillary and Bill in ways they've never been publicly hit. As scary as it may be to some we may be looking at a President Trump in January. This is never going to happen. You seem sure, I'd call it a coin toss with a trump v Clinton election with low voter turnout guaranteed. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Tue May 03, 2016 8:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
312player wrote: Sir Loin Of Beef wrote: Nas wrote: pittmike wrote: I said before he is dangerous to the GOP. Now they see. For whatever reason he crosses all sorts of traditional voting blocks. HRC and the Dems better have a good plan. No doubt about it. He knows how to brand his opponents and make it stick. He'll also dominate the 24 hours news cycle and hit Hillary and Bill in ways they've never been publicly hit. As scary as it may be to some we may be looking at a President Trump in January. This is never going to happen. You seem sure, I'd call it a coin toss with a trump v Clinton election with low voter turnout guaranteed. That would favor Trump. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Tue May 03, 2016 8:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
Agreed... Bernie bustin out just really turned off a lot of independents like myself..Hillary v Trump could go either way I'm not voting and I'm not alone |
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| Author: | SomeGuy [ Tue May 03, 2016 8:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
Nas wrote: Like him or not what he's done is really impressive. Run a non-serious campaign, said a bunch of shock shit and then let the media do the rest of the work? Who needs an actual campaign staff, plan or even a microscopic understanding of policy when you have the media entertainment complex protect you, attack your opponents and give you free advertising? The strings were not hidden during this election cycle, on either side. We all had a nice long look behind the curtain. That said, this cycle will be a fucking shit show and I can't wait. |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Tue May 03, 2016 8:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
SomeGuy wrote: Nas wrote: Like him or not what he's done is really impressive. Run a non-serious campaign, said a bunch of shock shit and then let the media do the rest of the work? Who needs an actual campaign staff, plan or even a microscopic understanding of policy when you have the media entertainment complex protect you, attack your opponents and give you free advertising? The strings were not hidden during this election cycle, on either side. We all had a nice long look behind the curtain. That said, this cycle will be a fucking shit show and I can't wait. Spot on. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Tue May 03, 2016 8:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
SomeGuy wrote: Nas wrote: Like him or not what he's done is really impressive. Run a non-serious campaign, said a bunch of shock shit and then let the media do the rest of the work? Who needs an actual campaign staff, plan or even a microscopic understanding of policy when you have the media entertainment complex protect you, attack your opponents and give you free advertising? The strings were not hidden during this election cycle, on either side. We all had a nice long look behind the curtain. That said, this cycle will be a fucking shit show and I can't wait. Fuck you. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Tue May 03, 2016 9:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
Nas wrote: Sir Loin Of Beef wrote: Nas wrote: pittmike wrote: I said before he is dangerous to the GOP. Now they see. For whatever reason he crosses all sorts of traditional voting blocks. HRC and the Dems better have a good plan. No doubt about it. He knows how to brand his opponents and make it stick. He'll also dominate the 24 hours news cycle and hit Hillary and Bill in ways they've never been publicly hit. As scary as it may be to some we may be looking at a President Trump in January. This is never going to happen. Many said the same thing about winning the GOP nomination. Rasmussen has him leading in the polls. 
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| Author: | SomeGuy [ Tue May 03, 2016 9:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
Terry's Peeps wrote: SomeGuy wrote: Nas wrote: Like him or not what he's done is really impressive. Run a non-serious campaign, said a bunch of shock shit and then let the media do the rest of the work? Who needs an actual campaign staff, plan or even a microscopic understanding of policy when you have the media entertainment complex protect you, attack your opponents and give you free advertising? The strings were not hidden during this election cycle, on either side. We all had a nice long look behind the curtain. That said, this cycle will be a fucking shit show and I can't wait. Fuck you. It's not your fault. |
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| Author: | Peoria Matt [ Tue May 03, 2016 9:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
SomeGuy wrote: Nas wrote: Like him or not what he's done is really impressive. Run a non-serious campaign, said a bunch of shock shit and then let the media do the rest of the work? Who needs an actual campaign staff, plan or even a microscopic understanding of policy when you have the media entertainment complex protect you, attack your opponents and give you free advertising? The strings were not hidden during this election cycle, on either side. We all had a nice long look behind the curtain. That said, this cycle will be a fucking shit show and I can't wait. Welcome back. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Tue May 03, 2016 9:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
Fuck you man. Not you. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Wed May 04, 2016 6:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
Peoria Matt wrote: Did Pol Pot's kid play for the Niners? He slipped on draft day due to pictures on the internet |
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| Author: | jimmypasta [ Wed May 04, 2016 6:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Donald Trump |
Waiting for Trump to mutter two words: Monica Lewinsky. It will make for some great TV. |
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