Or............ Both?

So I suppose Cueto pitched like a loser last night.

nomination denied.

Wake me up Wednesday when the real sport starts.

Yes, I watch and attend! I haven't watched football in 6 years and haven't gone in 8+. Baseball was on my TV last night and I wasn't a huge fan and I don't think I'd be if I was there.

FOCUS!

I don't really get why JORR simultaneously wants to argue that baseball is the most popular sport in the country while also insisting it's cooler/more authentic/whatever he's doing here than everything else as well. I think it would make a lot more sense to concede that football is the most popular sport while also decrying the shit product and the shit taste of the people who have made it more popular than more real sport like baseball. In many contexts the masses are asses and sports consumption is no exception.

As it is, his bizarre redefinition of popularity makes him sound like the poptimist idiots who militantly insist that Taylor Swift is more popular and better than your favorite musician or an art critic extolling the brilliance of Thomas Kinkade.

When there's a single important game on the scoreboard it really shows "run support" for the specious concept it is. "Run support" only exists within a world of averages and algorithms along with its spurious sisters such as "expected runs". What you had last night was a real baseball game. There was one homer in said game, which some might refer to as "support", but which I simply call a run. The reason such "support" was enjoyed by Jon Lester was because that homer was allowed by Johnny Cueto. And the reason Cueto lacked "support" was simply because Lester pitched better than he did.

I don't really get why JORR simultaneously wants to argue that baseball is the most popular sport in the country while also insisting it's cooler/more authentic/whatever he's doing here than everything else as well. I think it would make a lot more sense to concede that football is the most popular sport while also decrying the shit product and the shit taste of the people who have made it more popular than more real sport like baseball. In many contexts the masses are asses and sports consumption is no exception.

As it is, his bizarre redefinition of popularity makes him sound like the poptimist idiots who militantly insist that Taylor Swift is more popular and better than your favorite musician or an art critic extolling the brilliance of Thomas Kinkade.

Both pitched great...I think Cueto actually pitched a little better game...with one slightly bigger consequence to a mistake pitch.

the poptimist idiots who militantly insist that Taylor Swift is more popular and better than your favorite musician

I think that's the heart of the argument. How we define what "good pitching" is. Hanging up that pitch to Baez was the whole game. At that point, all of his other "domination" became meaningless. His performance is only pertinent within the context of this game. He happened to be facing Jon Lester instead of James Shields or Clay Buchholz. And there's a good reason for that. On the night that Tex Cobb got his face destroyed by Larry Holmes he would have beaten the crap out of 99.9999999% of all human beings on earth by fighting the same damn fight that got him whipped by Holmes. But we don't talk about how great he fought, because he got his ass kicked by the guy he was actually fighting. Cueto pitched a good game. It just wasn't good enough. And any talk of "run support", by its very nature ignores the effort of Lester.

Lester had an easier time against that lineup that has struggled to score runs all year, the Cubs have the best lineup in the NL.. Wind blowing in hard helps too, but both pitched great...Lester pitched a Lil better.

Lester had an easier time against that lineup that has struggled to score runs all year, the Cubs have the best lineup in the NL.. Wind blowing in hard helps too, but both pitched great...Lester pitched a Lil better.

When there's a single important game on the scoreboard it really shows "run support" for the specious concept it is. "Run support" only exists within a world of averages and algorithms along with its spurious sisters such as "expected runs". What you had last night was a real baseball game. There was one homer in said game, which some might refer to as "support", but which I simply call a run. The reason such "support" was enjoyed by Jon Lester was because that homer was allowed by Johnny Cueto. And the reason Cueto lacked "support" was simply because Lester pitched better than he did.

So popular the game is on the fucking MLB netowrk.

I think that's the heart of the argument. How we define what "good pitching" is. Hanging up that pitch to Baez was the whole game. At that point, all of his other "domination" became meaningless. His performance is only pertinent within the context of this game. He happened to be facing Jon Lester instead of James Shields or Clay Buchholz. And there's a good reason for that. On the night that Tex Cobb got his face destroyed by Larry Holmes he would have beaten the crap out of 99.9999999% of all human beings on earth by fighting the same damn fight that got him whipped by Holmes. But we don't talk about how great he fought, because he got his ass kicked by the guy he was actually fighting. Cueto pitched a good game. It just wasn't good enough. And any talk of "run support", by its very nature ignores the effort of Lester.

Jorr wont answer my question...