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Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:34 pm ]
Post subject:  The Indians

They gave the Cubs everything they could handle ....made for great baseball :lol:

Author:  IMU [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Indians

Very well played by the Indians.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:38 pm ]
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IMU wrote:
Very well played by the Indians.

Trying to sneak Kluber in 2x on short rest, not so much. They had to though, everyone else would've been shelled.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Indians

Indians had MANY chances to win. Entertaining series, but Cleveland choked.

Author:  IMU [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:53 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Indians had MANY chances to win. Entertaining series, but Cleveland choked.

Astros choked in 2005.

2005.

...2016

Author:  Darkside [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Indians

Cleveland didn't choke.
Truthfully the Cubs were more than they could handle.
They're just plain a better team.

Author:  JORR [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Indians

Darkside wrote:
Cleveland didn't choke.
Truthfully the Cubs were more than they could handle.
They're just plain a better team.


That's claptrap. The series went to extra innings in the seventh game and Cleveland without their best everyday player and half their starting rotation. I'm not saying the Cubs didn't deserve to win. They won. But to say that they are "just plain better", there's really no evidence to support that.

Author:  FavreFan [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:57 pm ]
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I think it's fair to say that blowing a 3-1 lead is choking, even if it is against a better team. It really doesn't matter either way though.

Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:58 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Indians had MANY chances to win. Entertaining series, but Cleveland choked.

To say a team decimated with injuries choked is stupid ....but it's... coming from you nevermind :)

Author:  312player [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:59 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Cleveland didn't choke.
Truthfully the Cubs were more than they could handle.
They're just plain a better team.


That's claptrap. The series went to extra innings in the seventh game and Cleveland without their best everyday player and half their starting rotation. I'm not saying the Cubs didn't deserve to win. They won. But to say that they are "just plain better", there's really no evidence to support that.






That same Cleveland team beat the piss out of Toronto and Boston.

Author:  JORR [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 7:00 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
I think it's fair to say that blowing a 3-1 lead is choking, even if it is against a better team. It really doesn't matter either way though.


Well, I wouldn't say they choked. The Cubs pitching was just in better shape when it came down to the end. And that horrible Cleveland outfield play isn't choking, that's just who those guys are.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 7:00 pm ]
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Oh, IMU. Losing 4 straign games in the World Series is getting dominated, not choking.

Blowing a 3-1 lead, dropping a flyball 3 batters in to game 6 at home is choking.

And the Cubs took advantage, which is what great teams do. Hats off to them.

Author:  JORR [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 7:01 pm ]
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312player wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Cleveland didn't choke.
Truthfully the Cubs were more than they could handle.
They're just plain a better team.


That's claptrap. The series went to extra innings in the seventh game and Cleveland without their best everyday player and half their starting rotation. I'm not saying the Cubs didn't deserve to win. They won. But to say that they are "just plain better", there's really no evidence to support that.






That same Cleveland team beat the piss out of Toronto and Boston.


And they were beating the piss out of the Cubs. Did you forget that? Good for the Cubs for coming back down 3-1, but to make a statement like the Cubs are appreciably better is kind of silly.

Author:  Kirkwood [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 7:05 pm ]
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Cubs finished with 114 wins.
Indians finished with 104 wins.

Hence the Cubs are better.

Author:  leashyourkids [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 7:08 pm ]
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"Choking" is one of the most overused words in sports. What does it even mean? That they get so overcome with anxiety that they can't function?

A more likely reason is that the Indians had to face Lester, Arrieta, and Hendricks, and their ace was gassed in game 7.

Author:  Darkside [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 7:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Indians

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
I think it's fair to say that blowing a 3-1 lead is choking, even if it is against a better team. It really doesn't matter either way though.


Well, I wouldn't say they choked. The Cubs pitching was just in better shape when it came down to the end. And that horrible Cleveland outfield play isn't choking, that's just who those guys are.

First you tell me I'm wrong then you tell me I'm right immediately after.

Author:  Kirkwood [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 7:21 pm ]
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The Indians didn't choke. But they took a lazy approach to Game 6. It felt like they were playing knowing there would be a Game 7.

Author:  Nas [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 7:23 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
312player wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Cleveland didn't choke.
Truthfully the Cubs were more than they could handle.
They're just plain a better team.


That's claptrap. The series went to extra innings in the seventh game and Cleveland without their best everyday player and half their starting rotation. I'm not saying the Cubs didn't deserve to win. They won. But to say that they are "just plain better", there's really no evidence to support that.






That same Cleveland team beat the piss out of Toronto and Boston.


And they were beating the piss out of the Cubs. Did you forget that? Good for the Cubs for coming back down 3-1, but to make a statement like the Cubs are appreciably better is kind of silly.


They are when Schwarber is in the lineup.

Author:  Killer V [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 7:23 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
And they were beating the piss out of the Cubs. Did you forget that? Good for the Cubs for coming back down 3-1, but to make a statement like the Cubs are appreciably better is kind of silly.


They WERE beating the Cubs, right up until they weren't. The Cubs aren't responsible for who they face. They played and beat the team that the Indians fielded. They were better.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 7:24 pm ]
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Kirkwood wrote:
The Indians didn't choke. But they took a lazy approach to Game 6. It felt like they were playing knowing there would be a Game 7.

Well when you have your ace who shut them down 2x going in game 7 that might've played into it a bit.

Author:  Elmhurst Steve [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 7:36 pm ]
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Cleveland did very well to beat Boston and Toronto and proved the worthy opponent in the World Series. Shoutout supported.

Author:  Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 7:45 pm ]
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I totally underestimated Cleveland coming into the playoffs, but they were the real deal running through Boston and Toronto. Lindor is going to be a stud in this league for years to come. If they can remain healthy next year, I can't see how they aren't back in at least the ALCS.

Author:  Furious Styles [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 7:54 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
claptrap

:lol: A most underutilized word.

Author:  Scooter [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:01 pm ]
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Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
I totally underestimated Cleveland coming into the playoffs, but they were the real deal running through Boston and Toronto. Lindor is going to be a stud in this league for years to come. If they can remain healthy next year, I can't see how they aren't back in at least the ALCS.

Cleveland did more with less than any postseason team. They will be back next season with a chip on their shoulder.

Author:  Darkside [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:03 pm ]
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Furious Styles wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
claptrap

:lol: A most underutilized word.

Yeah... he called my post claptrap and then pretty much said the same thing a few minutes later.

Author:  Scooter [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:07 pm ]
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Darkside wrote:
Furious Styles wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
claptrap

:lol: A most underutilized word.

Yeah... he called my post claptrap and then pretty much said the same thing a few minutes later.

Claptraps do not matter. Unless you are a rat. :lol:

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:15 pm ]
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Hank likes a full claptrap.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:18 pm ]
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Furious Styles wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
claptrap

:lol: A most underutilized word.

Only because Potter claimed "Sentimental hogwash"

Author:  JORR [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Indians

Kirkwood wrote:
Cubs finished with 114 wins.
Indians finished with 104 wins.

Hence the Cubs are better.


The Cubs played the Reds and Brewers 38 times. Hence it's a poor comparison.

Author:  IMU [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Indians

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
Cubs finished with 114 wins.
Indians finished with 104 wins.

Hence the Cubs are better.


The Cubs played the Reds and Brewers 38 times. Hence it's a poor comparison.

2016

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