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D Wade!!!! 47 games in... he's had enough
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Author:  billypootons [ Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:54 pm ]
Post subject:  D Wade!!!! 47 games in... he's had enough
Wow, post game comments were delicious. Teammates aren't trying and don't care. This shit should fucking hurt
Author:  IMU [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:15 am ]
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I want Butler and Wade to be the ones to fire Gar, Pax and Hoiberg. Somehow.
Author:  ZephMarshack [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:19 am ]
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It seems that malcontent Butler has infected Wade with his negativity. I for one thought Fred drew up some brilliant late game shots for Mirotic and Zipser and they probably would have made them if not for the horrible attitudes from the Bulls' leaders.
Author:  Peoria Matt [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:22 am ]
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IMU wrote:
I want Butler and Wade to be the ones to fire Gar, Pax and Hoiberg. Somehow.


Yep. I think I'd feel a lot better about the Bulls if Wade was in charge.
Author:  denisdman [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:39 am ]
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I like Wade. Lots of honest chatter. And sure as hell he put up good stats last night and played well.

I know the Bulls scored a lot of points, but their offense lacks flow. It seems like a collection of free throws, three point shots, and bail out jumpers. A lot of standing around with some weak pick and roll and iso plays. It's not fun to watch and even worse when the D is so leaky at the end.
Author:  Brick [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:57 am ]
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I can't believe any Bulls fan likes Wade after he played spy for Pat Riley with LeBron. Now he comes here on a retirement deal and cries.
Author:  IMU [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:35 am ]
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Wade is very easy to root for, even during his decline from being a superstar.

Butler is easy to root for while watching his ascension to superstar status.

E'Twaun Moore is easy to root for due to hard work he puts into doing the little things it takes to be a solid role player.

Carmelo Anthony is impossible to root for as he is one of the most selfish, one dimensional players in the world.

These are just accepted truths.
Author:  Brick [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:41 am ]
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IMU wrote:
Wade is very easy to root for, even during his decline from being a superstar.

Butler is easy to root for while watching his ascension to superstar status.

E'Twaun Moore is easy to root for due to hard work he puts into doing the little things it takes to be a solid role player.

Carmelo Anthony is impossible to root for as he is one of the most selfish, one dimensional players in the world.

These are just accepted truths.
I liked Wade in Miami. I didn't even care that he went back to Miami.

Acting as an extension of Pat Riley and going on recruiting trips with LeBron was unforgivable for a "Chicago Guy".
Author:  Bagels [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:56 am ]
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IMU wrote:
Wade is very easy to root for, even during his decline from being a superstar.

Butler is easy to root for while watching his ascension to superstar status.

E'Twaun Moore is easy to root for due to hard work he puts into doing the little things it takes to be a solid role player.

Carmelo Anthony is impossible to root for as he is one of the most selfish, one dimensional players in the world.

These are just accepted truths.


he's easy to root for ? He came here to cash a check and had to understand the roster was not going to get significantly better....did he think they were going to sign Durant or something ? Now that the situation is playing out exactly as everyone thought he's whining about the team not being better ? He certainly could have signed for somewhat less to play for a team that had a chance. Comes off like an ass to me
Author:  Douchebag [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:13 am ]
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Bagels wrote:
IMU wrote:
Wade is very easy to root for, even during his decline from being a superstar.

Butler is easy to root for while watching his ascension to superstar status.

E'Twaun Moore is easy to root for due to hard work he puts into doing the little things it takes to be a solid role player.

Carmelo Anthony is impossible to root for as he is one of the most selfish, one dimensional players in the world.

These are just accepted truths.


he's easy to root for ? He came here to cash a check and had to understand the roster was not going to get significantly better....did he think they were going to sign Durant or something ? Now that the situation is playing out exactly as everyone thought he's whining about the team not being better ? He certainly could have signed for somewhat less to play for a team that had a chance. Comes off like an ass to me

Yup.
Author:  Don Tiny [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:29 am ]
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Wade trying to out-Rondo Rondo for leading asswipe.
Author:  IMU [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:32 am ]
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I guess I see this differently than you.

After the Bulls signed Rondo, Wade was probably told by Gar and Pax that the organization was going to go for it over the next 2-3 years. That they'd do what was required and Hoiberg was progressing with getting the team to become some dynamic offensive juggernaut.

Clearly all wrong, but I don't think Wade came here just to cash a check.
Author:  Regular Reader [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:07 am ]
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Dwade is 5 years into the downward side of his career. He's likely only here because Pat Riley knew that and wisely didn't saddle his team with an aging has been living on past glories.

Since the stunt that he got Paxson to fall for years ago, I haven't been a fan. But that doesn't stop me from seeing his pitiful tirade for what it is

This roster, coaching staff and front office all deserve each other. Wade ought to take his retirement bonus and cut out this act. The crocodilev tears are telling.
Author:  denisdman [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:12 am ]
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If Wade was just cashing a check, he would have not stuck his neck out the last few days. Nor would he be playing as hard as he did last night. He is putting in a solid effort especially for such a crappy team and with a beaten down body.

He's earned my respect.
Author:  sinicalypse [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:14 am ]
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IMU wrote:
Clearly all wrong, but I don't think Wade came here just to cash a check.


it's about what dwyane wanted to do... having the power to do what he wanted to do... having the power to control your own destiny.... there's something amazing about that feeling!.

i'm going to print up "i gave up my cousin and all i got was this shitty team" shirts and see if i can get shot outside of the united center with them =P
Author:  veganfan21 [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:16 am ]
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I'm with IMU and dman. Wade clearly cares about the team's performance. If you're looking for someone who is just cashing checks, look no further than Hoiberg and Forman.
Author:  Regular Reader [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:18 am ]
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denisdman wrote:
If Wade was just cashing a check, he would have not stuck his neck out the last few days. Nor would he be playing as hard as he did last night. He is putting in a solid effort especially for such a crappy team and with a beaten down body.

He's earned my respect.

With all due respect, I think you may be confusing occasional activity with actual accomplishment. He's done, his teammates know it and now he doesn't like the fact that none of them will fawn over his hollow attempts at "leadership". Especially on the random game days he deigns to actually show up
Author:  sinicalypse [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:21 am ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
With all due respect, I think you may be confusing occasional activity with actual accomplishment. He's done, his teammates know it and now he doesn't like the fact that none of them will fawn over his hollow attempts at "leadership". Especially on the random game days he deigns to actually show up


i had to scoff when a few weeks ago the trib sports section had a thing on the most over/underpaid athletes in chicago. d-wade was listed as underpaid because of his "leadership" -- kindly get the fuck out of here!
Author:  Don Tiny [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:30 am ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
denisdman wrote:
If Wade was just cashing a check, he would have not stuck his neck out the last few days. Nor would he be playing as hard as he did last night. He is putting in a solid effort especially for such a crappy team and with a beaten down body.

He's earned my respect.

With all due respect, I think you may be confusing occasional activity with actual accomplishment. He's done, his teammates know it and now he doesn't like the fact that none of them will fawn over his hollow attempts at "leadership". Especially on the random game days he deigns to actually show up

You tell 'em, sister.
Author:  ZephMarshack [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:34 am ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
denisdman wrote:
If Wade was just cashing a check, he would have not stuck his neck out the last few days. Nor would he be playing as hard as he did last night. He is putting in a solid effort especially for such a crappy team and with a beaten down body.

He's earned my respect.

With all due respect, I think you may be confusing occasional activity with actual accomplishment. He's done, his teammates know it and now he doesn't like the fact that none of them will fawn over his hollow attempts at "leadership". Especially on the random game days he deigns to actually show up

It's not like his teammates could actually take him up on any leadership anyway. Wade's either deluded or just being nice by suggesting that they simply lack effort when the reality for most of them is that they lack talent.
Author:  veganfan21 [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:42 am ]
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ZephMarshack wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
denisdman wrote:
If Wade was just cashing a check, he would have not stuck his neck out the last few days. Nor would he be playing as hard as he did last night. He is putting in a solid effort especially for such a crappy team and with a beaten down body.

He's earned my respect.

With all due respect, I think you may be confusing occasional activity with actual accomplishment. He's done, his teammates know it and now he doesn't like the fact that none of them will fawn over his hollow attempts at "leadership". Especially on the random game days he deigns to actually show up

It's not like his teammates could actually take him up on any leadership anyway. Wade's either deluded or just being nice by suggesting that they simply lack effort when the reality for most of them is that they lack talent.


Lack of effort is connected to coaching. If guys aren't trying hard that's because they're not being motivated by the person directly responsible for that sort of thing.
Author:  long time guy [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:48 am ]
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ZephMarshack wrote:
It seems that malcontent Butler has infected Wade with his negativity. I for one thought Fred drew up some brilliant late game shots for Mirotic and Zipser and they probably would have made them if not for the horrible attitudes from the Bulls' leaders.



interesting that Wade calls out the players yet you still focus on Hoiberg.
Author:  ZephMarshack [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:51 am ]
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long time guy wrote:
ZephMarshack wrote:
It seems that malcontent Butler has infected Wade with his negativity. I for one thought Fred drew up some brilliant late game shots for Mirotic and Zipser and they probably would have made them if not for the horrible attitudes from the Bulls' leaders.



interesting that Wade calls out the players yet you still focus on Hoiberg.

Wade's comments indict Hoiberg as much as his teammates for the reason vegan gives in the post immediately above yours.
Author:  Bagels [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:53 am ]
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denisdman wrote:
If Wade was just cashing a check, he would have not stuck his neck out the last few days. Nor would he be playing as hard as he did last night. He is putting in a solid effort especially for such a crappy team and with a beaten down body.

He's earned my respect.


:lol: stuck his neck out ? by whining and complaining ?

'sticking your neck' out implies that there's some danger in whatever you're doing/saying, that it's a "bold" move, could have repercussions to you, etc.

he's not in danger of being benched, traded, cut, suspended, or otherwise being disciplined or corrected on anything. He made his decision to take the money and run, he should deal with the consequences and stop being a bitch
Author:  IMU [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:54 am ]
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Thibodeau was always credited for getting Bulls players to play hard. A coach getting the most out of his players is just as much of a job responsibility as anything else... most specific defensive and offensive plays come from assistants anyway.

Wade and Butler are definitely indicting both their teammates and their coach.
Author:  Douchebag [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:58 am ]
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long time guy wrote:
interesting that Wade calls out the players yet you still focus on Hoiberg.

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Author:  long time guy [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:00 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
denisdman wrote:
If Wade was just cashing a check, he would have not stuck his neck out the last few days. Nor would he be playing as hard as he did last night. He is putting in a solid effort especially for such a crappy team and with a beaten down body.

He's earned my respect.

With all due respect, I think you may be confusing occasional activity with actual accomplishment. He's done, his teammates know it and now he doesn't like the fact that none of them will fawn over his hollow attempts at "leadership". Especially on the random game days he deigns to actually show up



Yep and I have grown to like him. I notice how isoball never gets called out when he and Butler perform well though. Offense was as predictable last night as it has been all season but he and Butler got their check so it wasn't a problem.

THe Bulls young players stink. Each and every one of them. Hoiberg may not be developing them yadda yadda yadda but I don't think they are that good. GarPax need to go. Hoiberg should go if for no other reason the players don't have faith in them. Butler should be bounced too.

Butler has shown his ass ever since he established himself in the league. I know he plays hard and has made himself into a player but unless they acquire a better best player then he should be bounced.

He throws everyone under the bus. You don't show up your coach no matter how incompetent he may be.


Right after they bounce Butler if not before that garbage ass Taj needs to be bounced. This team needs a complete overhaul. Top to bottom. I don't think Reinsdorf will bounce Paxson so its futile to focus on that. May not want to eat Hoiberg's salary either. Clean house its time Reader.
Author:  long time guy [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:04 pm ]
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IMU wrote:
Thibodeau was always credited for getting Bulls players to play hard. A coach getting the most out of his players is just as much of a job responsibility as anything else... most specific defensive and offensive plays come from assistants anyway.

Wade and Butler are definitely indicting both their teammates and their coach.


I don't know where your inference emanates because it was obvious that it was solely the players. As far as Thibs getting players to play hard that is debatable. He didn't that last season. They laid down against under .500 teams and folded the last 3 games against Cleveland. They also struggled against a mediocre Milwaukee team.

I agree that there is something amiss with what Hoiberg is doing but I think that effort has more to do with the player than the coach.
Author:  Regular Reader [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:11 pm ]
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If Michael Reinsdorf doesn't step up now to clean out this crap, fans/people have no reason to invest their time or money, especially season ticket holders or advertisers
Author:  veganfan21 [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:15 pm ]
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long time guy wrote:
. As far as Thibs getting players to play hard that is debatable.



No it's not. Get out of here with that bullshit. You've been refuted so many times on this issue. You promote alternative facts.
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