China is single-handedly massacring the environment on a scale that makes the American industrial revolution look like nothing.
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | China |
The world is your's. Shape it as you see fit |
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| Author: | Jbi11s [ Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
Agreed, sir. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
What do we want? Global Leadership! When do we want it? Mao! |
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| Author: | City of Fools [ Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
"chairman Wu cannot leave China" |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
City of Fools wrote: "chairman Wu cannot leave China" For the curious ... https://www.ft.com/content/80935f70-4755-11e7-8519-9f94ee97d996 |
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| Author: | America [ Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
| China is single-handedly massacring the environment on a scale that makes the American industrial revolution look like nothing.
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
America wrote: :lol: China is single-handedly massacring the environment on a scale that makes the American industrial revolution look like nothing. At least they have a desire to lead. The world may go to shit with them at the controls but we are abdicating |
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| Author: | City of Fools [ Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
America wrote: :lol: China is single-handedly massacring the environment on a scale that makes the American industrial revolution look like nothing. we cannot control China nor can we control India. These are facts. It is pointless to try, unless we want to straight take them over. |
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| Author: | America [ Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
The United States doesn't need a feel-good climate pact (that was neutered by the EU and USA because China wasn't going to join) to exert it's influence when it was has more aircraft carriers than the rest of the world combined. China can't even assert control for its own territorial waters while the US has ruled a hemisphere for a century. I wouldn't worry about it. |
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| Author: | JORR [ Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
Some of you are missing dolphin's point. It's not really about climate change. |
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| Author: | Seacrest [ Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Some of you are missing dolphin's point. It's not really about climate change. The symbolism and gestures won't really get it done. And using China as an example of leadership on climate change is only for those that find critical thinking skills unimportant. Trump should be excoriated for his lack of leadership with Saudi Arabia, the largest exporter and funder of terrorism in the world. But anyone who claims the lack of US leadership just started, paid very little attention the last 8 years when the 1980's called and wanted their foreign policy back. Or when red lines were drawn and nothing was done when other nations gleefully crossed them. |
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| Author: | JORR [ Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
Seacrest wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Some of you are missing dolphin's point. It's not really about climate change. The symbolism and gestures won't really get it done. And using China as an example of leadership on climate change is only for those that find critical thinking skills unimportant. Trump should be excoriated for his lack of leadership with Saudi Arabia, the largest exporter and funder of terrorism in the world. But anyone who claims the lack of US leadership just started, paid very little attention the last 8 years when the 1980's called and wanted their foreign policy back. Or when red lines were drawn and nothing was done when other nations gleefully crossed them. Again, it's not about climate change. It's about the place of the U.S. in the world. Your second paragraph is obviously true, but you are likely to conjure up Bootstraps Max and/or But Obama by making such a observation. At this point it's probably best to look ahead rather than just whining about the last guy. And yeah, I know Obama did that too. |
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| Author: | Seacrest [ Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Seacrest wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Some of you are missing dolphin's point. It's not really about climate change. The symbolism and gestures won't really get it done. And using China as an example of leadership on climate change is only for those that find critical thinking skills unimportant. Trump should be excoriated for his lack of leadership with Saudi Arabia, the largest exporter and funder of terrorism in the world. But anyone who claims the lack of US leadership just started, paid very little attention the last 8 years when the 1980's called and wanted their foreign policy back. Or when red lines were drawn and nothing was done when other nations gleefully crossed them. Again, it's not about climate change. It's about the place of the U.S. in the world. Your second paragraph is obviously true, but you are likely to conjure up Bootstraps Max and/or But Obama by making such a observation. At this point it's probably best to look ahead rather than just whining about the last guy. And yeah, I know Obama did that too. Our leadership position in the world took a HUGE hit in the previous 8 years. It just wasn't important then, but somehow it is now. |
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| Author: | JORR [ Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
Seacrest wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Seacrest wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Some of you are missing dolphin's point. It's not really about climate change. The symbolism and gestures won't really get it done. And using China as an example of leadership on climate change is only for those that find critical thinking skills unimportant. Trump should be excoriated for his lack of leadership with Saudi Arabia, the largest exporter and funder of terrorism in the world. But anyone who claims the lack of US leadership just started, paid very little attention the last 8 years when the 1980's called and wanted their foreign policy back. Or when red lines were drawn and nothing was done when other nations gleefully crossed them. Again, it's not about climate change. It's about the place of the U.S. in the world. Your second paragraph is obviously true, but you are likely to conjure up Bootstraps Max and/or But Obama by making such a observation. At this point it's probably best to look ahead rather than just whining about the last guy. And yeah, I know Obama did that too. Our leadership position in the world took a HUGE hit in the previous 8 years. It just wasn't important then, but somehow it is now. Well, now you're back to the different ways the media report/reported on respective presidents. You know where I stand on that. It's gotten me called a "Trumpet" enough times. |
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| Author: | But Obama [ Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
But anyone who claims the lack of US leadership just started, paid very little attention the last 8 years when the 1980's called and wanted their foreign policy back. Or when red lines were drawn and nothing was done when other nations gleefully crossed them. |
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| Author: | JORR [ Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
This mult was way overdue for a funny moment. |
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| Author: | City of Fools [ Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
It's been a downward spiral of presidents, each arguably worse than the last. This is the larger problem. This is just the biggest turd at the table. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
Seacrest wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Seacrest wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Some of you are missing dolphin's point. It's not really about climate change. The symbolism and gestures won't really get it done. And using China as an example of leadership on climate change is only for those that find critical thinking skills unimportant. Trump should be excoriated for his lack of leadership with Saudi Arabia, the largest exporter and funder of terrorism in the world. But anyone who claims the lack of US leadership just started, paid very little attention the last 8 years when the 1980's called and wanted their foreign policy back. Or when red lines were drawn and nothing was done when other nations gleefully crossed them. Again, it's not about climate change. It's about the place of the U.S. in the world. Your second paragraph is obviously true, but you are likely to conjure up Bootstraps Max and/or But Obama by making such a observation. At this point it's probably best to look ahead rather than just whining about the last guy. And yeah, I know Obama did that too. Our leadership position in the world took a HUGE hit in the previous 8 years. It just wasn't important then, but somehow it is now. There is a difference between trying but failing and not trying at all |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
Great. Then we can really cut into defense spending! |
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| Author: | a retard [ Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/ ... IntExt=INT Denis can give us others. |
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| Author: | Seacrest [ Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
good dolphin wrote: Seacrest wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Seacrest wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Some of you are missing dolphin's point. It's not really about climate change. The symbolism and gestures won't really get it done. And using China as an example of leadership on climate change is only for those that find critical thinking skills unimportant. Trump should be excoriated for his lack of leadership with Saudi Arabia, the largest exporter and funder of terrorism in the world. But anyone who claims the lack of US leadership just started, paid very little attention the last 8 years when the 1980's called and wanted their foreign policy back. Or when red lines were drawn and nothing was done when other nations gleefully crossed them. Again, it's not about climate change. It's about the place of the U.S. in the world. Your second paragraph is obviously true, but you are likely to conjure up Bootstraps Max and/or But Obama by making such a observation. At this point it's probably best to look ahead rather than just whining about the last guy. And yeah, I know Obama did that too. Our leadership position in the world took a HUGE hit in the previous 8 years. It just wasn't important then, but somehow it is now. There is a difference between trying but failing and not trying at all Going to Saudi Arabia was done to death before trump. Drawing imaginary lines is all in ones imagination Giving Iran a way to nuclear weapons isn't trying. Trying to force democracy down the throats of Muslim nations isn't trying. Appearances isn't trying, it's abdicating. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Fri Jun 02, 2017 1:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
good dolphin wrote: The world is your's. Shape it as you see fit 
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| Author: | denisdman [ Fri Jun 02, 2017 1:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
a retard wrote: https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0533&FundIntExt=INT Denis can give us others. Love Vanguard index funds. I would not recommend any emerging markets fund. Way too volatile for most investors. On the other hand, it is smart to diversify globally outside the U.S. but stick to first world developed markets. If you decide to allocate a portion of your investments to emerging or frontier markets, definitely stay at 10% of your holdings or below. |
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| Author: | a retard [ Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
denisdman wrote: a retard wrote: https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0533&FundIntExt=INT Denis can give us others. Love Vanguard index funds. I would not recommend any emerging markets fund. Way too volatile for most investors. On the other hand, it is smart to diversify globally outside the U.S. but stick to first world developed markets. If you decide to allocate a portion of your investments to emerging or frontier markets, definitely stay at 10% of your holdings or below. Agreed, I should have qualified, this should be no more than a small portion of one's portfolio. For developed markets, https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/ ... IntExt=INT And to be clear this one has a portion in emerging markets too. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
This deal can't be torn up for 4 years. Trump may not be president after then. Nothing to see here. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
Nas wrote: This deal can't be torn up for 4 years. Trump may not be president after then. Nothing to see here. Which really makes this an incredibly smart political play on his part |
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| Author: | Nas [ Sat Jun 03, 2017 8:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
Regular Reader wrote: Nas wrote: This deal can't be torn up for 4 years. Trump may not be president after then. Nothing to see here. Which really makes this an incredibly smart political play on his part It was unless he wins again |
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| Author: | Seacrest [ Sat Jun 03, 2017 10:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
Nas wrote: Nothing to see here. The entire Paris Accord summed up in one simple sentence. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Sat Jun 03, 2017 10:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
Seacrest wrote: Nas wrote: Nothing to see here. The entire Paris Accord summed up in one simple sentence. MIT scientists think differently. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html |
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| Author: | Furious Styles [ Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: China |
Don Tiny wrote: What do we want? Global Leadership! When do we want it? Mao!
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