The Supreme Court overturned precedent and dealt a blow to labor today, ruling that public-sector employees can opt out of paying fees to unions they don't join.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20180627/NEWS02/180609862/supreme-court-deals-blow-to-public-sector-unions#utm_medium=email&utm_source=ccb-breakingnews&utm_campaign=ccb-breakingnews-20180627


About fucking time!

If you really want to make it fair, the folks that don’t pay dues should have to negotiate their own deal like all non-union employees. The free rider problem is real. If the union gets good value for its members, then they deserve the dues. But I agree one should not be compelled to pay dues.

I'm not sure why the hell it's not that way in the first place.

You're free to choose in or out, but if you're out, you're out, and you get nothing and like it.

I'm not sure why the hell it's not that way in the first place.

You're free to choose in or out, but if you're out, you're out, and you get nothing and like it.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20180627/NEWS02/180609862/supreme-court-deals-blow-to-public-sector-unions#utm_medium=email&utm_source=ccb-breakingnews&utm_campaign=ccb-breakingnews-20180627


About fucking time!

If you really want to make it fair, the folks that don’t pay dues should have to negotiate their own deal like all non-union employees. The free rider problem is real. If the union gets good value for its members, then they deserve the dues. But I agree one should not be compelled to pay dues.

Sorry, but that doesn't logically follow.

If you want out, then you can cut your own deal and are very likely to get a similar, if not the same deal, as your fellow worker.

Sorry, but that doesn't logically follow.

If you want out, then you can cut your own deal and are very likely to get a similar, if not the same deal, as your fellow worker.

Yeah, great! More power for the elites, less power for ordinary people! Further eviscerating organized labor will really help with ameliorating economic inequality, too!

Yeah, great! More power for the elites, !

Public sector unions are problematic on many levels. Most importantly, they are often bargaining with people they help elect and work for non-profit seeking entities.

Hate to break it to you, but you can put in Union bosses/leaders in those "elites" too.

Public sector unions are problematic on many levels. Most importantly, they are often bargaining with people they help elect and work for non-profit seeking entities.

Yeah, Andrew Carnegie and Eugene Debs: Same Guy.

The rise in economic inequality over the past 40 years directly correlates with the gradual de-unionization of American society. There is some coincidence here, but a lot of causality as well.

It also correlates to the opening of other markets. Tough to compete as a union when you can ship the job to Vietnam or China and pay the worker pennies a day. And there are no environmental concerns there either. Do what you will.

It also correlates to the opening of other markets. Tough to compete as a union when you can ship the job to Vietnam or China and pay the worker pennies a day. And there are no environmental concerns there either. Do what you will.

Yeah, maybe allowing corporate lobbyists to write our trade deals isn't such a great idea.

Sure but medical benefits and their costs as well as pensions and many other things are union only.

Then companies will do without employees and use robots.

The trucking industry currently has thousands of high paying jobs that are unfilled. This is just one example.

Yeah, I've seen CDL training, no experience needed, 3-5K signing bonus in trucking.

That is a bit of a wild card that was unknown in the halcyon days of the unions. When I was young there just wasn't really any acknowledgement that the job/factory etc would just disappear. Somewhere between when the organized labor movement began and where we are now there was a tipping point. One side appears to have missed that point more than the other.

I know many people personally that exist as they are refusing to do something as simple like this to better themselves. Is it all people absolutely not. But geez try something when things are not working out.

Yeah, great! More power for the elites, less power for ordinary people! Further eviscerating organized labor will really help with ameliorating economic inequality, too!

Yeah, Andrew Carnegie and Eugene Debs: Same Guy.

The rise in economic inequality over the past 40 years directly correlates with the gradual de-unionization of American society. There is some coincidence here, but a lot of causality as well.

I think that’s what we’re saying. I assume Don meant it that way. I know I did.