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| Author: | Peoria Matt [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Jim Thome |
Stole the show today. HOF player and human being. |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
Pride of Peoria |
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| Author: | Mr. Reason [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
Seems like a wonderful human being despite his juicing. How can one argue with Jerry? |
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| Author: | Nardi [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
Peoria Matt wrote: Stole the show today. HOF player and human being. Thank God you didn't say he was a BETTER human being than baseball player. Cuz you know, that fuckin' impossible. |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
Peoria Matt wrote: Stole the show today. HOF player and human being. Steroid player. Should be hated as much as Sosa and Bonds. But he's white and has that simpleton Peoria charm. He's always been that "Golly gee" type of guy. So people give him the benefit of the doubt. |
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| Author: | JORR [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
Beardown wrote: Peoria Matt wrote: Stole the show today. HOF player and human being. Steroid player. Should be hated as much as Sosa and Bonds. But he's white and has that simpleton Peoria charm. He's always been that "Golly gee" type of guy. So people give him the benefit of the doubt. Agree. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
Where is the proof Thome juiced? |
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| Author: | Nardi [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
http://www.homeruncards.com/imagesrc/jim-thome.jpg |
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| Author: | The Hawk [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
Peoria Matt wrote: Stole the show today. HOF player and human being. Absolutely. And he did it the right way. Country strong. |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
Caller Bob wrote: Where is the proof Thome juiced? Same amount of proof that Bonds and Sosa have. They never tested positive. But the fact that Thome grew to a beast just like Sosa and Bonds is my proof. But he's white and is nice to the media. So he gets into the HOF. |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
Beardown wrote: Caller Bob wrote: Where is the proof Thome juiced? Same amount of proof that Bonds and Sosa have. They never tested positive. But the fact that Thome grew to a beast just like Sosa and Bonds is my proof. But he's white and is nice to the media. So he gets into the HOF. Plus he played for teams that no one covers. |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
I never like guys like Thome. I mean anybody that talks like him is a phony and hiding something. You can't be "Golly gee" and "aww shucks" all the time once you are an adult. |
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| Author: | tommy [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Beardown wrote: Peoria Matt wrote: Stole the show today. HOF player and human being. Steroid player. Should be hated as much as Sosa and Bonds. But he's white and has that simpleton Peoria charm. He's always been that "Golly gee" type of guy. So people give him the benefit of the doubt. Agree. Disagree mucho. Have you seen Cleveland's lineup? Ramirez often hit behind him. Or David Justice, etc. (And Herbert Perry.) In spite of having been given pitches to hit, he walked a whole bunch. He was also a slugger in the minors. |
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| Author: | Mr. Reason [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
tommy wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Beardown wrote: Peoria Matt wrote: Stole the show today. HOF player and human being. Steroid player. Should be hated as much as Sosa and Bonds. But he's white and has that simpleton Peoria charm. He's always been that "Golly gee" type of guy. So people give him the benefit of the doubt. Agree. Disagree mucho. Have you seen Cleveland's lineup? Ramirez often hit behind him. Or David Justice, etc. (And Herbert Perry.) In spite of having been given pitches to hit, he walked a whole bunch. He was also a slugger in the minors. The Milkman notwithstanding. As wonderful of a human as Thome seems to be, if you look at the photos in his early 20s and compare to his late 20s, he is Bondsesque. He did the same thing all of them did in that era. I didn’t see ceremony today but I’ll put money on his head having shrunk. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
Juicer |
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| Author: | Nas [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
Being a decent human being and a likable guy goes a long way. Ask Clemens and McGwire about that. |
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| Author: | Mr. Reason [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
Nas wrote: Being a decent human being and a likable guy goes a long way. Ask Clemens and McGwire about that. Yeah, be a nice juicer and you’re good to go. |
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| Author: | Chet Coppock's Fur Coat [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
Beardown wrote: I never like guys like Thome. I mean anybody that talks like him is a phony and hiding something. You can't be "Golly gee" and "aww shucks" all the time once you are an adult. I know people who have known the family since he was a teenager. He is legit. That's just how he was raised. |
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| Author: | Peoria Matt [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote: Beardown wrote: I never like guys like Thome. I mean anybody that talks like him is a phony and hiding something. You can't be "Golly gee" and "aww shucks" all the time once you are an adult. I know people who have known the family since he was a teenager. He is legit. That's just how he was raised. |
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| Author: | JORR [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
tommy wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Beardown wrote: Peoria Matt wrote: Stole the show today. HOF player and human being. Steroid player. Should be hated as much as Sosa and Bonds. But he's white and has that simpleton Peoria charm. He's always been that "Golly gee" type of guy. So people give him the benefit of the doubt. Agree. Disagree mucho. Have you seen Cleveland's lineup? Ramirez often hit behind him. Or David Justice, etc. (And Herbert Perry.) In spite of having been given pitches to hit, he walked a whole bunch. He was also a slugger in the minors. Yeah, and I think pretty much that entire Cleveland lineup was gassed to the gills. But that's the real problem with this moralistic viewpoint regarding letting certain guys in and keeping out others. We really don't know who did what. So either you have to go on the numbers or just keep grudges against certain guys because of who they are. I don't know how you let Thome in and keep Sosa out. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
Great Hall Of Fame ceremony yesterday. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
Thome's Dad must have been a juicer too. https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/ji ... ?s=612x612 |
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| Author: | tommy [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: tommy wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Beardown wrote: Peoria Matt wrote: Stole the show today. HOF player and human being. Steroid player. Should be hated as much as Sosa and Bonds. But he's white and has that simpleton Peoria charm. He's always been that "Golly gee" type of guy. So people give him the benefit of the doubt. Agree. Disagree mucho. Have you seen Cleveland's lineup? Ramirez often hit behind him. Or David Justice, etc. (And Herbert Perry.) In spite of having been given pitches to hit, he walked a whole bunch. He was also a slugger in the minors. Yeah, and I think pretty much that entire Cleveland lineup was gassed to the gills. But that's the real problem with this moralistic viewpoint regarding letting certain guys in and keeping out others. We really don't know who did what. So either you have to go on the numbers or just keep grudges against certain guys because of who they are. I don't know how you let Thome in and keep Sosa out. He's never been linked to them, and even when he was thinner, he was still a big guy. Look even at Frank Thomas as rookie--one huge dude--but eight years later, he was considerably larger. Sosa, A-Rod, Clemens and the like have been linked to them. |
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: tommy wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Beardown wrote: Peoria Matt wrote: Stole the show today. HOF player and human being. Steroid player. Should be hated as much as Sosa and Bonds. But he's white and has that simpleton Peoria charm. He's always been that "Golly gee" type of guy. So people give him the benefit of the doubt. Agree. Disagree mucho. Have you seen Cleveland's lineup? Ramirez often hit behind him. Or David Justice, etc. (And Herbert Perry.) In spite of having been given pitches to hit, he walked a whole bunch. He was also a slugger in the minors. Yeah, and I think pretty much that entire Cleveland lineup was gassed to the gills. But that's the real problem with this moralistic viewpoint regarding letting certain guys in and keeping out others. We really don't know who did what. So either you have to go on the numbers or just keep grudges against certain guys because of who they are. I don't know how you let Thome in and keep Sosa out. |
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| Author: | JORR [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
tommy wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: tommy wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Beardown wrote: Peoria Matt wrote: Stole the show today. HOF player and human being. Steroid player. Should be hated as much as Sosa and Bonds. But he's white and has that simpleton Peoria charm. He's always been that "Golly gee" type of guy. So people give him the benefit of the doubt. Agree. Disagree mucho. Have you seen Cleveland's lineup? Ramirez often hit behind him. Or David Justice, etc. (And Herbert Perry.) In spite of having been given pitches to hit, he walked a whole bunch. He was also a slugger in the minors. Yeah, and I think pretty much that entire Cleveland lineup was gassed to the gills. But that's the real problem with this moralistic viewpoint regarding letting certain guys in and keeping out others. We really don't know who did what. So either you have to go on the numbers or just keep grudges against certain guys because of who they are. I don't know how you let Thome in and keep Sosa out. He's never been linked to them, and even when he was thinner, he was still a big guy. Look even at Frank Thomas as rookie--one huge dude--but eight years later, he was considerably larger. Sosa, A-Rod, Clemens and the like have been linked to them. I'm not convinced Thomas was clean either. Look, the players brought these suspicions upon themselves with the stance of their union. That isn't the fault of the fans or the reporters. |
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| Author: | Godfella [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
leashyourkids wrote: Pride of Peoria Indeed. No matter what team he was playing for at the time, the Peoria Journal Star had a daily "Thome Watch" in the sports section. It detailed everything he did the day or night before and was current on his lifetime stats regularly. |
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| Author: | Nardi [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
Frank was ripped as a rookie. He was an Auburn tight end. He was outspoken in advocating testing. Thome was a skinny rookie who had not a word to say about testing. Damn nice guy though. 613 HR during the steroid era. Frank had 512. I assume Thome juiced. Why wouldn't I. Canseco said 75% of guys juiced. Why wouldn't they. I would. Generational wealth is involved. For chrissake, Tiger juiced. There will always be fancy chemists trying to stay ahead of the curve and clients looking for an edge. EPO ain't cheap and the agents used to mask it aren't either. Apparently Wellington Castillo had the dough for EPO but not the latest masking agent. Here's food for thought. MLB only keeps samples for a specific period of time. They can't go back to a 5 year old sample and retest(as testing technology progresses and tries to keep up with the fancy chemists) as they do with Olympic athletes and cyclists. Can you imagine MLB suspending Mike Trout for a sample from his rookie year? It would be horrible for the game. But if you want PEDs gone, that's what you have to do. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
badrogue17 wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: tommy wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Beardown wrote: Peoria Matt wrote: Stole the show today. HOF player and human being. Steroid player. Should be hated as much as Sosa and Bonds. But he's white and has that simpleton Peoria charm. He's always been that "Golly gee" type of guy. So people give him the benefit of the doubt. Agree. Disagree mucho. Have you seen Cleveland's lineup? Ramirez often hit behind him. Or David Justice, etc. (And Herbert Perry.) In spite of having been given pitches to hit, he walked a whole bunch. He was also a slugger in the minors. Yeah, and I think pretty much that entire Cleveland lineup was gassed to the gills. But that's the real problem with this moralistic viewpoint regarding letting certain guys in and keeping out others. We really don't know who did what. So either you have to go on the numbers or just keep grudges against certain guys because of who they are. I don't know how you let Thome in and keep Sosa out. Agreed |
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| Author: | The Hawk [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
Beardown wrote: Peoria Matt wrote: Stole the show today. HOF player and human being. Steroid player. Should be hated as much as Sosa and Bonds. But he's white and has that simpleton Peoria charm. He's always been that "Golly gee" type of guy. So people give him the benefit of the doubt. Nope. He was just a big country strong man. |
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| Author: | JORR [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jim Thome |
Nardi wrote: Frank was ripped as a rookie. He was an Auburn tight end. That doesn't seem like a great argument against him being juiced. |
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