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| Author: | Chet Coppock's Fur Coat [ Wed Oct 28, 2020 3:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | IHSA |
A day after JB moved basketball from medium to high risk, effectively cancelling the season, the IHSA flat out defies him and announces the season can start as scheduled. https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/10/28 ... basketball |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
Yep! |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
The dominoes fall if they just stay the course. THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE! |
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| Author: | Chet Coppock's Fur Coat [ Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
JB basically tells people to sue the school districts for liability if they play. |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote: JB basically tells people to sue the school districts for liability if they play. Bullshit threat. How many AAU tournies and programs have been sued? |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
Self-Certify eliminates liability. Plus has anyone ever sued for the flu? Nope. Good luck proving it. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
conns7901 wrote: Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote: JB basically tells people to sue the school districts for liability if they play. Bullshit threat. How many AAU tournies and programs have been sued? Absolutely none since the parents all have to sign liability waivers. But that's not gonna stop the ambulance chasers. Or bitter parents. |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
Regular Reader wrote: conns7901 wrote: Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote: JB basically tells people to sue the school districts for liability if they play. Bullshit threat. How many AAU tournies and programs have been sued? Absolutely none since the parents all have to sign liability waivers. But that's not gonna stop the ambulance chasers. Or bitter parents. How many open schools have been sued? |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
Regular Reader wrote: conns7901 wrote: Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote: JB basically tells people to sue the school districts for liability if they play. Bullshit threat. How many AAU tournies and programs have been sued? Absolutely none since the parents all have to sign liability waivers. But that's not gonna stop the ambulance chasers. Or bitter parents. Shots fired at shakes! |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
conns7901 wrote: Regular Reader wrote: conns7901 wrote: Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote: JB basically tells people to sue the school districts for liability if they play. Bullshit threat. How many AAU tournies and programs have been sued? Absolutely none since the parents all have to sign liability waivers. But that's not gonna stop the ambulance chasers. Or bitter parents. How many open schools have been sued? The same number as teachers filing suit for an unsafe workplace? 
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| Author: | TurdFerguson [ Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
Interesting. In GA, every store or shop has a sign referencing a GA corona virus act explicitly saying you are entering at your own risk and the shop is exempt from liability. Same with pools, playgrounds, basically any public or private place. |
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| Author: | Harvard Dan [ Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
conns7901 wrote: Regular Reader wrote: conns7901 wrote: Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote: JB basically tells people to sue the school districts for liability if they play. Bullshit threat. How many AAU tournies and programs have been sued? Absolutely none since the parents all have to sign liability waivers. But that's not gonna stop the ambulance chasers. Or bitter parents. How many open schools have been sued? None that I'm aware of due to the fact that parents were given the option to go remote as well. Right now I am in a conference call with an officials association (football officials) and the issue coming up is whether or not if defying a Governor's EO and recommendations of IDPH recommendations would make my (and a coach's) liability insurance null and void. Electronic whistles are allowed, but I'm not sure whether or not there are officials that will be running around wearing a mask all game... |
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| Author: | Chet Coppock's Fur Coat [ Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
Regular Reader wrote: conns7901 wrote: Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote: JB basically tells people to sue the school districts for liability if they play. Bullshit threat. How many AAU tournies and programs have been sued? Absolutely none since the parents all have to sign liability waivers. But that's not gonna stop the ambulance chasers. Or bitter parents. As much as America is lawsuit-happy, I am a little surprised that nobody at a hotel or a restaurant nearby has sued an AAU organizer yet. Just because the parents signed liability waivers doesn't mean nearby workers did. |
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| Author: | Pres-Elect FukNuggitt [ Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
Haha blue fuckers. Suck on your blue microdicks until you give up and just call 'em clits. |
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| Author: | spanky [ Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
I know that the IHSA leadership is a mess, and all of this probably means nothing. It's grandstanding. But what I don't get is - the IHSA is not an independent entity, is it? They get state funding, at some level, don't they? |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
spanky wrote: I know that the IHSA leadership is a mess, and all of this probably means nothing. It's grandstanding. But what I don't get is - the IHSA is not an independent entity, is it? They get state funding, at some level, don't they? Founded on December 27, 1900, the Illinois High School Association is a private, not-for-profit organization with more than 800 member high schools in Illinois. The IHSA is headquartered in Bloomington, Illinois, and is not funded by tax dollars or administered by the government in the state of Illinois. |
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| Author: | spanky [ Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
conns7901 wrote: spanky wrote: I know that the IHSA leadership is a mess, and all of this probably means nothing. It's grandstanding. But what I don't get is - the IHSA is not an independent entity, is it? They get state funding, at some level, don't they? Founded on December 27, 1900, the Illinois High School Association is a private, not-for-profit organization with more than 800 member high schools in Illinois. The IHSA is headquartered in Bloomington, Illinois, and is not funded by tax dollars or administered by the government in the state of Illinois. That answers that. The problem that the IHSA has then, is that most of their member schools rely, big time, on state funding. Are districts willing to gamble COVID liability, in addition to potential forfeit of state funding, to go forth with a sport? |
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| Author: | spanky [ Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
conns7901 wrote: spanky wrote: I know that the IHSA leadership is a mess, and all of this probably means nothing. It's grandstanding. But what I don't get is - the IHSA is not an independent entity, is it? They get state funding, at some level, don't they? Founded on December 27, 1900, the Illinois High School Association is a private, not-for-profit organization with more than 800 member high schools in Illinois. The IHSA is headquartered in Bloomington, Illinois, and is not funded by tax dollars or administered by the government in the state of Illinois. I honestly didn't know this part. Essentially the IHSA is operating the same way that the NCAA is. They don't actually have any jurisdiction over their member schools, unless those schools want to participate in the IHSA's events. Hmmmm.... |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
spanky wrote: conns7901 wrote: spanky wrote: I know that the IHSA leadership is a mess, and all of this probably means nothing. It's grandstanding. But what I don't get is - the IHSA is not an independent entity, is it? They get state funding, at some level, don't they? Founded on December 27, 1900, the Illinois High School Association is a private, not-for-profit organization with more than 800 member high schools in Illinois. The IHSA is headquartered in Bloomington, Illinois, and is not funded by tax dollars or administered by the government in the state of Illinois. That answers that. The problem that the IHSA has then, is that most of their member schools rely, big time, on state funding. Are districts willing to gamble COVID liability, in addition to potential forfeit of state funding, to go forth with a sport? So state funding can be withheld over not following guidance? No laws are being broken. Schools districts are already gambling with COVID liability. The majority are or have been open to some extent and most have had cases. No one is getting sued over COVID because you can not prove where you got it. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
Sorry, but I'll always despise the IHSA. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
conns7901 wrote: No one is getting sued over COVID because you can not prove where you got it. But but but I I thought all of the bars and restaurants were super spreaders for this! That's why they have to be closed! That is what the experts are telling us! |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
Regular Reader wrote: Sorry, but I'll always despise the IHSA. Pretty much every group thinks the IHSA is out to screw them. CPS, Catholic, South Suburbs. Down state schools think they favor Chicagoland and Chicago area thinks they favor Central and Southern Illinois. Suburban coaches feel they cater to CPS. CPS feels they are not considered. All these things can not be true. |
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| Author: | spanky [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
conns7901 wrote: spanky wrote: conns7901 wrote: spanky wrote: I know that the IHSA leadership is a mess, and all of this probably means nothing. It's grandstanding. But what I don't get is - the IHSA is not an independent entity, is it? They get state funding, at some level, don't they? Founded on December 27, 1900, the Illinois High School Association is a private, not-for-profit organization with more than 800 member high schools in Illinois. The IHSA is headquartered in Bloomington, Illinois, and is not funded by tax dollars or administered by the government in the state of Illinois. That answers that. The problem that the IHSA has then, is that most of their member schools rely, big time, on state funding. Are districts willing to gamble COVID liability, in addition to potential forfeit of state funding, to go forth with a sport? So state funding can be withheld over not following guidance? No laws are being broken. ISBE is on record, with Carmen backing JB's recommendation. "Laws" have nothing to do with any of this. |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
spanky wrote: conns7901 wrote: spanky wrote: conns7901 wrote: spanky wrote: I know that the IHSA leadership is a mess, and all of this probably means nothing. It's grandstanding. But what I don't get is - the IHSA is not an independent entity, is it? They get state funding, at some level, don't they? Founded on December 27, 1900, the Illinois High School Association is a private, not-for-profit organization with more than 800 member high schools in Illinois. The IHSA is headquartered in Bloomington, Illinois, and is not funded by tax dollars or administered by the government in the state of Illinois. That answers that. The problem that the IHSA has then, is that most of their member schools rely, big time, on state funding. Are districts willing to gamble COVID liability, in addition to potential forfeit of state funding, to go forth with a sport? So state funding can be withheld over not following guidance? No laws are being broken. ISBE is on record, with Carmen backing JB's recommendation. "Laws" have nothing to do with any of this. Can you point to where ISBE is on record that they can and will be stripping funding from schools that play basketball? |
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| Author: | spanky [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
conns7901 wrote: spanky wrote: conns7901 wrote: spanky wrote: conns7901 wrote: spanky wrote: I know that the IHSA leadership is a mess, and all of this probably means nothing. It's grandstanding. But what I don't get is - the IHSA is not an independent entity, is it? They get state funding, at some level, don't they? Founded on December 27, 1900, the Illinois High School Association is a private, not-for-profit organization with more than 800 member high schools in Illinois. The IHSA is headquartered in Bloomington, Illinois, and is not funded by tax dollars or administered by the government in the state of Illinois. That answers that. The problem that the IHSA has then, is that most of their member schools rely, big time, on state funding. Are districts willing to gamble COVID liability, in addition to potential forfeit of state funding, to go forth with a sport? So state funding can be withheld over not following guidance? No laws are being broken. ISBE is on record, with Carmen backing JB's recommendation. "Laws" have nothing to do with any of this. Can you point to where ISBE is on record that they can and will be stripping funding from schools that play basketball? Can you point to instances where public schools in Illinois don't follow ISBE guidelines? |
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| Author: | spanky [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
Maybe this ends up in a lawsuit of IHSA vs the State? Who knows. This is grandstanding by a few people at the IHSA. Are they really gonna hold a basketball season with just few random rural districts participating throughout the state? Awesome! |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
spanky wrote: Maybe this ends up in a lawsuit of IHSA vs the State? Who knows. This is grandstanding by a few people at the IHSA. Are they really gonna hold a basketball season with just few random rural districts participating throughout the state? Awesome! It wont be the IHSA vs the state. It will be schools individually or collectively. 41 states are playing so far. Anyone who believes basketball will happen in March is dreaming. There will be no widespread vaccine by then. Assuming we even have one. Not even getting into practice space, officials and coaches. |
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| Author: | spanky [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
conns7901 wrote: 41 states are playing so far. This is a point that keeps getting brought up that does not matter in this conversation (not by you, just in general). It's like complaining that people are surfing in Hawaii right now, but we can't do it here. Or, complaining that my school has a dress code but the school two towns over doesn't. It doesn't matter in the conversation and wouldn't matter in a lawsuit. |
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| Author: | spanky [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
conns7901 wrote: It wont be the IHSA vs the state. It will be schools individually or collectively. 2 things on this: 1. Then what difference does it make what the IHSA's opinion is on this matter? 2. It definitely would NOT be collectively. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IHSA |
Don't rock the boat. spanky is WAAAAAY to comfortable cashing in those Government 202 checks from the comfort of his home for the next calendar year. |
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