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Author:  Nas [ Wed May 19, 2021 7:47 pm ]
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Very graceful and articulate even at 106 and 107

https://youtu.be/ilQYj3LzhrQ

Author:  Caller Bob [ Wed May 19, 2021 8:33 pm ]
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The Tulsa Riots were spearheaded by W. Tate Brady..a Democrat (and Klansman) ...go figure.

Author:  WaitingforRuffcorn [ Wed May 19, 2021 9:06 pm ]
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Funny how the 100 year old Tulsa Riots are the top of the news. The riots last summer didn't happen, and everyone from them needs to have charges dismissed.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Wed May 19, 2021 9:15 pm ]
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What about the Bowling Green massacre?

Author:  WaitingforRuffcorn [ Wed May 19, 2021 9:19 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
What about the Bowling Green massacre?


When you forgot tampons at the bowling alley?

Author:  Regular Reader [ Wed May 19, 2021 10:14 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
Very graceful and articulate even at 106 and 107

https://youtu.be/ilQYj3LzhrQ


Telling that few even talked about it until the 80s and 90s. And even then barely.

Author:  Nas [ Wed May 19, 2021 11:03 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
Nas wrote:
Very graceful and articulate even at 106 and 107

https://youtu.be/ilQYj3LzhrQ


Telling that few even talked about it until the 80s and 90s. And even then barely.


I don't recall hearing about it until sometime in the last 20 years.

Author:  FavreFan [ Wed May 19, 2021 11:06 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Nas wrote:
Very graceful and articulate even at 106 and 107

https://youtu.be/ilQYj3LzhrQ


Telling that few even talked about it until the 80s and 90s. And even then barely.


I don't recall hearing about it until sometime in the last 20 years.

I found it during some type of Wikipedia rabbit hole back in the mid 2000s. Definitely didn’t hear about it in school.

Author:  Nas [ Wed May 19, 2021 11:22 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Nas wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Nas wrote:
Very graceful and articulate even at 106 and 107

https://youtu.be/ilQYj3LzhrQ


Telling that few even talked about it until the 80s and 90s. And even then barely.


I don't recall hearing about it until sometime in the last 20 years.

I found it during some type of Wikipedia rabbit hole back in the mid 2000s. Definitely didn’t hear about it in school.


I think my initial reaction was thinking it wasn't true because I hadn't heard about it.

Author:  Regular Reader [ Wed May 19, 2021 11:29 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Nas wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Nas wrote:
Very graceful and articulate even at 106 and 107

https://youtu.be/ilQYj3LzhrQ


Telling that few even talked about it until the 80s and 90s. And even then barely.


I don't recall hearing about it until sometime in the last 20 years.

I found it during some type of Wikipedia rabbit hole back in the mid 2000s. Definitely didn’t hear about it in school.


I think my initial reaction was thinking it wasn't true because I hadn't heard about it.

You wouldve been amazed at how few stories had been told until the 80s and 90s.

I mean hell, people were still lying about Fred Hampton until the 90s.

Author:  TurdFerguson [ Thu May 20, 2021 5:42 am ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Nas wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Nas wrote:
Very graceful and articulate even at 106 and 107

https://youtu.be/ilQYj3LzhrQ


Telling that few even talked about it until the 80s and 90s. And even then barely.


I don't recall hearing about it until sometime in the last 20 years.

I found it during some type of Wikipedia rabbit hole back in the mid 2000s. Definitely didn’t hear about it in school.


I think I leaned about it from the watchmen show off of HBO.

Author:  Jbi11s [ Thu May 20, 2021 6:00 am ]
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I think there was a paragraph or two dedicated to it in one of my high school history text books in the early 2000s.

I thought it was interesting both Watchmen and Lovecraft Country had plot lines and/or episodes devoted to the event last year.

Author:  good dolphin [ Thu May 20, 2021 7:45 am ]
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impressive that Van Ellis chose to serve his country afterwards

Author:  good dolphin [ Thu May 20, 2021 7:47 am ]
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What is the federal nexus for this to be a plea for federal reparations?

I see that the producer is analogizing it with the 9/11 victim fund. That is a disaster relief fund. I can see issuing money as disaster relief. Framing it as reparations implies an injury caused by the repairing party. Did the federal government play a role I am not aware of? Educate me if I'm ignorant of facts

Author:  NWsider4-3-3 [ Thu May 20, 2021 8:27 am ]
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Jbi11s wrote:
I think there was a paragraph or two dedicated to it in one of my high school history text books in the early 2000s.

I thought it was interesting both Watchmen and Lovecraft Country had plot lines and/or episodes devoted to the event last year.


i went to hs in the early 80s and the 'general' american history book glossed over this early 20th century event and in chicago with a few sentences. characterized as 'race riots'.

i found out more about tulsa from other blacks at work a few years later - talking about the GAP band. the GAP band was from tulsa. since then, i've read much more about american history - the good and bad.

Author:  Nas [ Thu May 20, 2021 1:40 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
impressive that Van Ellis chose to serve his country afterwards


He was drinking tittie milk. It definitely had a bigger impact on his sister -the woman who spoke first- because she was 7 or 8 at the time.

Not surprising to hear that a lie from a woman was responsible for this.

Author:  Regular Reader [ Thu May 20, 2021 1:44 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
What is the federal nexus for this to be a plea for federal reparations?

I see that the producer is analogizing it with the 9/11 victim fund. That is a disaster relief fund. I can see issuing money as disaster relief. Framing it as reparations implies an injury caused by the repairing party. Did the federal government play a role I am not aware of? Educate me if I'm ignorant of facts

Iirc there was a bombing done by the U.S. military.

Author:  Nas [ Thu May 20, 2021 1:52 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
What is the federal nexus for this to be a plea for federal reparations?

I see that the producer is analogizing it with the 9/11 victim fund. That is a disaster relief fund. I can see issuing money as disaster relief. Framing it as reparations implies an injury caused by the repairing party. Did the federal government play a role I am not aware of? Educate me if I'm ignorant of facts

Iirc there was a bombing done by the U.S. military.


I imagine Woodrow Wilson probably would have okayed it by telegram in between viewings of Birth of a Nation.

Author:  Regular Reader [ Thu May 20, 2021 1:59 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
What is the federal nexus for this to be a plea for federal reparations?

I see that the producer is analogizing it with the 9/11 victim fund. That is a disaster relief fund. I can see issuing money as disaster relief. Framing it as reparations implies an injury caused by the repairing party. Did the federal government play a role I am not aware of? Educate me if I'm ignorant of facts

Iirc there was a bombing done by the U.S. military.


I imagine Woodrow Wilson probably would have okayed it by telegram in between viewings of Birth of a Nation.

He'd probably sent out blanket authorization across all branches.

Author:  This Ends in Antioch [ Thu May 20, 2021 2:38 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
impressive that Van Ellis chose to serve his country afterwards


He was drinking tittie milk. It definitely had a bigger impact on his sister -the woman who spoke first- because she was 7 or 8 at the time.

Not surprising to hear that a lie from a woman was responsible for this.

Are you talking about the girl in the elevator? I hadn’t heard her accused of lying before.

Author:  Nas [ Thu May 20, 2021 2:58 pm ]
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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Nas wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
impressive that Van Ellis chose to serve his country afterwards


He was drinking tittie milk. It definitely had a bigger impact on his sister -the woman who spoke first- because she was 7 or 8 at the time.

Not surprising to hear that a lie from a woman was responsible for this.

Are you talking about the girl in the elevator? I hadn’t heard her accused of lying before.


Yep! Something about a kid tripping and bumping into her. A female clerk got him arrested for assault. That meant that the men needed to be "men" and protect the women.

Author:  This Ends in Antioch [ Thu May 20, 2021 3:13 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Nas wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
impressive that Van Ellis chose to serve his country afterwards


He was drinking tittie milk. It definitely had a bigger impact on his sister -the woman who spoke first- because she was 7 or 8 at the time.

Not surprising to hear that a lie from a woman was responsible for this.

Are you talking about the girl in the elevator? I hadn’t heard her accused of lying before.


Yep! Something about a kid tripping and bumping into her. A female clerk got him arrested for assault. That meant that the men needed to be "men" and protect the women.

I got interested in this after that Coates reparations article. Like many (it seems), I didn’t hear a whole lot about Tulsa back in school. I vaguely recall a reference or picture in a textbook, but nothing that really went into it in sufficient detail.

Anyway, I read some book about it and thought the story was that the girl would not press charges as she said it was a minor interaction. Speculation was either that he bumped into her accidentally or that they were in a relationship. The local dynamics, a recent lynching, racial relations, etc. all kind of created a powder keg.

Author:  Caller Bob [ Thu May 20, 2021 3:23 pm ]
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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Nas wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Nas wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
impressive that Van Ellis chose to serve his country afterwards


He was drinking tittie milk. It definitely had a bigger impact on his sister -the woman who spoke first- because she was 7 or 8 at the time.

Not surprising to hear that a lie from a woman was responsible for this.

Are you talking about the girl in the elevator? I hadn’t heard her accused of lying before.


Yep! Something about a kid tripping and bumping into her. A female clerk got him arrested for assault. That meant that the men needed to be "men" and protect the women.

I got interested in this after that Coates reparations article. Like many (it seems), I didn’t hear a whole lot about Tulsa back in school. I vaguely recall a reference or picture in a textbook, but nothing that really went into it in sufficient detail.

Anyway, I read some book about it and thought the story was that the girl would not press charges as she said it was a minor interaction. Speculation was either that he bumped into her accidentally or that they were in a relationship. The local dynamics, a recent lynching, racial relations, etc. all kind of created a powder keg.


That radical left has been behind instigating radical race riots for over 100 years now....sad!

Author:  SpiralStairs [ Thu May 20, 2021 3:31 pm ]
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The radical left instigated the Tulsa race riots knowing that 100 years later they would be able to shame people into paying reparations to the people they themselves victimized. A dastardly cunning plan.

Author:  GoldenJet [ Thu May 20, 2021 4:09 pm ]
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SpiralStairs wrote:
The radical left instigated the Tulsa race riots knowing that 100 years later they would be able to shame people into paying reparations to the people they themselves victimized. A dastardly cunning plan.


Makes the Obama birth cert conspiracy much more believable...

Author:  GoldenJet [ Thu May 20, 2021 4:11 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
The Tulsa Riots were spearheaded by W. Tate Brady..a Democrat (and Klansman) ...go figure.


Southern Democrat and Klansman went together back then. Not surprising.

Author:  WaitingforRuffcorn [ Thu May 20, 2021 4:12 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
What is the federal nexus for this to be a plea for federal reparations?

I see that the producer is analogizing it with the 9/11 victim fund. That is a disaster relief fund. I can see issuing money as disaster relief. Framing it as reparations implies an injury caused by the repairing party. Did the federal government play a role I am not aware of? Educate me if I'm ignorant of facts

Iirc there was a bombing done by the U.S. military.


No. :lol: You don't recall this because it never happened.

Author:  good dolphin [ Thu May 20, 2021 4:17 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
impressive that Van Ellis chose to serve his country afterwards


He was drinking tittie milk. It definitely had a bigger impact on his sister -the woman who spoke first- because she was 7 or 8 at the time.

Not surprising to hear that a lie from a woman was responsible for this.


since Eve gave the apple to Adam

Author:  Caller Bob [ Thu May 20, 2021 4:20 pm ]
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GoldenJet wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
The Tulsa Riots were spearheaded by W. Tate Brady..a Democrat (and Klansman) ...go figure.


Southern Democrat and Klansman went together back then..


They still do.
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Author:  This Ends in Antioch [ Thu May 20, 2021 4:21 pm ]
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This is actually an interesting story divorced from modern day politics, gents.

Here’s the book I referenced: https://www.amazon.com/Burning-Massacre ... 0312302479

Story gets watered down into racist whites vs. victimized blacks but there’s a ton of depth to it.

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