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Author:  Caller Bob [ Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Aaron Judge -Single Season HR Champ!

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Author:  This Ends in Antioch [ Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:57 pm ]
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Author:  Caller Bob [ Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:58 pm ]
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Author:  Nas [ Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:01 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
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They all get an asterisk then. Performance enhancing drugs have been used from the beginning.

Author:  This Ends in Antioch [ Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:05 pm ]
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Aaron Judge plays in a field with tee ball dimensions. I’ll throw him *** as an ante, maybe **** since he’s such a goober.

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:25 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
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They all get an asterisk then. Performance enhancing drugs have been used from the beginning.

Right!!! the stories of greenies being out there like a Pez dispenser are incredible.

Author:  Caller Bob [ Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:34 pm ]
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Greenies don't help you hit Home Runs

Author:  Tall Midget [ Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:39 pm ]
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Only 12 more to beat Bonds! I guess you think he's gonna have a heck of a couple games to close the season.

Author:  Nas [ Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:50 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
Greenies don't help you hit Home Runs


They definitely help you get up for the game. Cocaine does too. Besides, steroids alone don't help anyone hit home runs.

Author:  Caller Bob [ Tue Oct 04, 2022 9:02 pm ]
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Players can still take Adderall

Author:  Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries [ Tue Oct 04, 2022 9:16 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Greenies don't help you hit Home Runs


They definitely help you get up for the game. Cocaine does too. Besides, steroids alone don't help anyone hit home runs.

I actually like Bob Costas's take on this.

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Tue Oct 04, 2022 9:24 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
Greenies don't help you hit Home Runs

Damn if we could only ask Mantle.

Author:  Nas [ Tue Oct 04, 2022 9:28 pm ]
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Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
Nas wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Greenies don't help you hit Home Runs


They definitely help you get up for the game. Cocaine does too. Besides, steroids alone don't help anyone hit home runs.

I actually like Bob Costas's take on this.


This?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A6tdltvikRo

Author:  Nas [ Tue Oct 04, 2022 9:36 pm ]
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There isn't a sport around where guys aren't coloring outside the lines to gain an edge. Excluding the unfriendly steroid guys from the HoF or putting an asterisk next to their records is bullshit. This was nothing more than a hit job by older writers and baseball guys who were upset their sacred childhood records were being destroyed by modern coloring outside the lines.

Author:  This Ends in Antioch [ Tue Oct 04, 2022 9:51 pm ]
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Bonds is the greatest baseball player I’ve ever seen and it’s not all that close.

Author:  Nas [ Tue Oct 04, 2022 9:54 pm ]
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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Bonds is the greatest baseball player I’ve ever seen and it’s not all that close.


Agreed. If a less talented steroid user like David Ortiz can get in, Bonds should have been voted it. The primary difference is Ortiz plays a cartoon character for the media.

Author:  Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries [ Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:07 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Bonds is the greatest baseball player I’ve ever seen and it’s not all that close.


Agreed. If a less talented steroid user like David Ortiz can get in, Bonds should have been voted it. The primary difference is Ortiz plays a cartoon character for the media.

Ortiz was a stud in the post-season. Not sure how much that helped.

Author:  Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries [ Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:16 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
Nas wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Greenies don't help you hit Home Runs


They definitely help you get up for the game. Cocaine does too. Besides, steroids alone don't help anyone hit home runs.

I actually like Bob Costas's take on this.


This?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A6tdltvikRo

No, it had to do with hitting.

Author:  Nas [ Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:17 pm ]
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Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
Nas wrote:
Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
Nas wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Greenies don't help you hit Home Runs


They definitely help you get up for the game. Cocaine does too. Besides, steroids alone don't help anyone hit home runs.

I actually like Bob Costas's take on this.


This?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A6tdltvikRo

No, it had to do with hitting.


What did he say?

Author:  Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries [ Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:25 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
Nas wrote:
Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
Nas wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Greenies don't help you hit Home Runs


They definitely help you get up for the game. Cocaine does too. Besides, steroids alone don't help anyone hit home runs.

I actually like Bob Costas's take on this.


This?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A6tdltvikRo

No, it had to do with hitting.


What did he say?

Oh shoot. I deleted it accidentally.

Costas argues that although players have turned themselves on to the latest drug or substance for years, steroids were different because no other era saw a jump in numbers like the steroids era did.

There was the jump after Ruth changed the game (his first big season was in the dead ball era), but that was due more to a different ball, cleaner baseballs, no more pitches with vaseline on them, some smaller parks, and so forth.

Author:  Nardi [ Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:18 pm ]
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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Bonds is the greatest baseball player I’ve ever seen and it’s not all that close.

I agree. But Rickey Henderson was the purest baseball joy. And it not all that close.

Author:  Jaw Breaker [ Wed Oct 05, 2022 12:05 am ]
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Nardi wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Bonds is the greatest baseball player I’ve ever seen and it’s not all that close.

I agree. But Rickey Henderson was the purest baseball joy. And it not all that close.


I’d put Pete Rose in that category too.

Author:  312player [ Wed Oct 05, 2022 6:59 am ]
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Hawg Ass wrote:
Nas wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
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They all get an asterisk then. Performance enhancing drugs have been used from the beginning.

Right!!! the stories of greenies being out there like a Pez dispenser are incredible.


Greenies are an energy drink, they aren't a big deal. Steroids and Hgh destroyed the record books.

Author:  W_Z [ Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:00 am ]
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Nas wrote:
There isn't a sport around where guys aren't coloring outside the lines to gain an edge. Excluding the unfriendly steroid guys from the HoF or putting an asterisk next to their records is bullshit. This was nothing more than a hit job by older writers and baseball guys who were upset their sacred childhood records were being destroyed by modern coloring outside the lines.


older writers and baseball guys who were orgasming during the steroid era until they knew they'd be the bad guys if they didn't turn a 180 and grandstand about it. that's what is disingenuous about their "vitriol" toward that period. they basked in it until they found a way to glorify themselves and knock down the people that lifted their careers. that's just what narcissists do.

Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:28 am ]
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Nas wrote:
There isn't a sport around where guys aren't coloring outside the lines to gain an edge. Excluding the unfriendly steroid guys from the HoF or putting an asterisk next to their records is bullshit. This was nothing more than a hit job by older writers and baseball guys who were upset their sacred childhood records were being destroyed by modern coloring outside the lines.


we don't see color here

Author:  Tall Midget [ Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:30 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:
Nas wrote:
There isn't a sport around where guys aren't coloring outside the lines to gain an edge. Excluding the unfriendly steroid guys from the HoF or putting an asterisk next to their records is bullshit. This was nothing more than a hit job by older writers and baseball guys who were upset their sacred childhood records were being destroyed by modern coloring outside the lines.


we don't see color here


...which may explain why records attained during the segregation era are revered but records attained during the steroid era are not.

Author:  KDdidit [ Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:42 am ]
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Congrats on the 7th best HR season in history. Typical everybody gets a trophy mentality to celebrate this nothing burger. His .311 average is pretty close to .400, let’s celebrate that too. 131 RBIs? That’s totally in the same ballpark as Hack Wilson’s 191. I’m calling it the greatest triple crown season in baseball history. So he doesn’t actually lead the AL in BA, doesn’t matter anymore.

Author:  JORR [ Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:44 am ]
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Tall Midget wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Nas wrote:
There isn't a sport around where guys aren't coloring outside the lines to gain an edge. Excluding the unfriendly steroid guys from the HoF or putting an asterisk next to their records is bullshit. This was nothing more than a hit job by older writers and baseball guys who were upset their sacred childhood records were being destroyed by modern coloring outside the lines.


we don't see color here


...which may explain why records attained during the segregation era are revered but records attained during the steroid era are not.



I see that argument made all the time but it doesn't make sense. The talent pool was far deeper relatively during the segregation era simply because baseball and boxing were the only professional sports. And only the most deperate people wanted to get their brains beaten in.

Sure, 10% of the population was excluded from playing, but the athletes among the remaining 90% all played baseball. There may be a Babe Ruth out there today who is playing football or riding a skateboard. In 1930 those weren't options.

Anyway, regardless of steroids, MLB has sapped the importance of the records by fucking around with the baseballs. Like in last year's corn game when they used superballs. Are you really confident that Judge hasn't been getting served special rabbit balls during the last couple weeks? I don't know how you could be.

Author:  Nardi [ Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:51 am ]
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Tall Midget wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Nas wrote:
There isn't a sport around where guys aren't coloring outside the lines to gain an edge. Excluding the unfriendly steroid guys from the HoF or putting an asterisk next to their records is bullshit. This was nothing more than a hit job by older writers and baseball guys who were upset their sacred childhood records were being destroyed by modern coloring outside the lines.


we don't see color here


...which may explain why records attained during the segregation era are revered but records attained during the steroid era are not.

You might want to put the fedora down. Joltin' Joe has left and gone away.

Author:  Nas [ Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:42 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Nas wrote:
There isn't a sport around where guys aren't coloring outside the lines to gain an edge. Excluding the unfriendly steroid guys from the HoF or putting an asterisk next to their records is bullshit. This was nothing more than a hit job by older writers and baseball guys who were upset their sacred childhood records were being destroyed by modern coloring outside the lines.


we don't see color here


...which may explain why records attained during the segregation era are revered but records attained during the steroid era are not.



I see that argument made all the time but it doesn't make sense. The talent pool was far deeper relatively during the segregation era simply because baseball and boxing were the only professional sports. And only the most deperate people wanted to get their brains beaten in.

Sure, 10% of the population was excluded from playing, but the athletes among the remaining 90% all played baseball. There may be a Babe Ruth out there today who is playing football or riding a skateboard. In 1930 those weren't options.

Anyway, regardless of steroids, MLB has sapped the importance of the records by fucking around with the baseballs. Like in last year's corn game when they used superballs. Are you really confident that Judge hasn't been getting served special rabbit balls during the last couple weeks? I don't know how you could be.


Sure, some athletes would be great at baseball but chose to play another sport. There were guys back then who were plumbers or working for the mob because they could make more money doing those things. Every era had their talent pool diluted.

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