"It's a shitty truck, but at least terrorists can't use it to blow stuff up" is quite the flex.

Yeah, he wins again.

"It's a shitty truck, but at least terrorists can't use it to blow stuff up" is quite the flex.

Name one made in the USA car that isn’t a piece of shit. Maybe the Chevy Suburban and the Camry? I wouldn’t buy any American Toyota that wasn’t made in Georgetown.

People are too rough on Tesla. At least they are trying something new. Ford sells nothing but hot dog shit, often at wildly inflated prices, and nobody says anything about it.

The German cars aren’t awful.

Fords get a pass because they’re pumping out $100k trucks for suburban hockey dads and tradesmen, the core of the Republican Party.

Name one made in the USA car that isn’t a piece of shit. Maybe the Chevy Suburban and the Camry? I wouldn’t buy any American Toyota that wasn’t made in Georgetown.

People are too rough on Tesla. At least they are trying something new. Ford sells nothing but hot dog shit, often at wildly inflated prices, and nobody says anything about it.

When you look at the overall car industry it's all pretty much the same with different marketing. They all use most of the same parts or at least comparable parts since the industry it pretty standard globally. American cars are slightly more expensive mostly because the employees get paid better and less government subsidies. However, it's also pretty easy to wait it out and find a good deal on a new American car.

American cars were mostly terrible in the 80s, and retained some terrible cars in the 90s while Asia flooded the market with cheap, "reliable" cars that no one really enjoyed looking at or driving in by far the ugliest era of car design we've ever seen.

But people bought a Honda in the 90s, it worked well in the most boring way possible, and now they buy another non-descript Honda at the lowest price range and since pretty much all cars easily get to 100k with little to no issues they can't believe how good it works compared to the terrible car from a terrible era of cards they remember. Even when the Honda has a massive recall for air bags they just blame the air bag company now.

Well the last comment is easily explained by your 2nd one. The Takata air bags were recalled in vehicles from Acura, BMW, Chrysler, Dodge, Ford, Honda, Infiniti, Mazda, Nissan, Pontiac, and Toyota.

When you look at the overall car industry it's all pretty much the same with different marketing. They all use most of the same parts or at least comparable parts since the industry it pretty standard globally. American cars are slightly more expensive mostly because the employees get paid better and less government subsidies. However, it's also pretty easy to wait it out and find a good deal on a new American car.

American cars were mostly terrible in the 80s, and retained some terrible cars in the 90s while Asia flooded the market with cheap, "reliable" cars that no one really enjoyed looking at or driving in by far the ugliest era of car design we've ever seen.

But people bought a Honda in the 90s, it worked well in the most boring way possible, and now they buy another non-descript Honda at the lowest price range and since pretty much all cars easily get to 100k with little to no issues they can't believe how good it works compared to the terrible car from a terrible era of cards they remember. Even when the Honda has a massive recall for air bags they just blame the air bag company now.

I’ve been to a lot of assembly plants and they are not all created equal. Ford plants are pure chaos. Management obsessing over keeping the line going at the expense of any other concern. Forklifts zipping around. GM is mostly the same, but they have some really quality engineers and designs. They are much less hesitant to put appropriate power plants in their cars rather than chase flashy MPG’s at the expense of longevity. Belvidere (RIP) was the biggest clusterfuck I have ever seen in my life and I’ve been on a passenger airplane in China.

It’s not even the same across the same manufacturer. TMMI is a dump while TMMK is a marvel. And then you go overseas and see the Passat factory in Emden, it blows anything in the US out of the water.

This stuff matters. Manufacturers really are meaningfully different from one another in regards that should affect your purchase and its not all branding.

I drive a Serbian car, I’ve had to rewire the taillights myself and I have to slip the service tech at Jiffy Lube a $20 to get him to admit that yes they have the filter and yes they will do my oil change. That’s how much of a pain in the ass it is. It’s a quality machine but it’s not user friendly. So yeah even if it has homogeneity in parts and materials from other FCA manufacturers the design decisions are very different. Also it has a sixth gear for no reason.

Of course, but that's also the point. The "Honda reliability" is now using most of the same parts or similar parts made by competitors. Like, nothing could make a Honda not reliable any more because it's failures are blamed by suppliers and not the company outside of the things on cars actually made by the car companies that pretty much never fail now. When a Ford failed in 1991 no one said "Just a bad supplier".

I drive a Serbian car, I’ve had to rewire the taillights myself and I have to slip the service tech at Jiffy Lube a $20 to get him to admit that yes they have the filter and yes they will do my oil change.

I’ve been to a lot of assembly plants and they are not all created equal. Ford plants are pure chaos. Management obsessing over keeping the line going at the expense of any other concern. Forklifts zipping around. GM is mostly the same, but they have some really quality engineers and designs. They are much less hesitant to put appropriate power plants in their cars rather than chase flashy MPG’s at the expense of longevity. Belvidere (RIP) was the biggest clusterfuck I have ever seen in my life and I’ve been on a passenger airplane in China.

It’s not even the same across the same manufacturer. TMMI is a dump while TMMK is a marvel. And then you go overseas and see the Passat factory in Emden, it blows anything in the US out of the water.

This stuff matters. Manufacturers really are meaningfully different from one another in regards that should affect your purchase and its not all branding.

Honda reliability is more about the engine and drivetrain than the outsourced interior components.