FavreFan wrote:
Northside_Dan wrote:
Coming in December 2011. You're going to Iran/Afghanistan/Pakistan/Syria/Libya!
Yup. The FB statuses from Afghanistan are interesting.
not a whole lotta 'likes' i take it.
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | The President of the United States Barack Obama |
From CNN: U.S. President Barack Obama, announcing Friday that "the rest of our troops will come home by the end of the year," said: "After nearly nine years, America's war in Iraq will be over." The new partnership with Iraq will be "strong and enduring" after U.S. troops leave the country, Obama said in the White House briefing room. The United States will continue its interest in a strong, stable Iraq after U.S. troops leave, the president said. "Today I can say that our troops in Iraq will definitely be home for the holidays," Obama said. About 39,000 U.S. troops are in Iraq, and the U.S. had wanted to keep from 3,000 to 5,000 troops in Iraq past 2011 to aid in training and security. But the current Status of Forces Agreement with Iraq dictates the U.S. troops leave by year's end, and the United States and Iraq had been unable to come to an agreement on key issues regarding legal immunity for U.S. troops who would remain in Iraq, effectively ending discussion of maintaining a significant American force presence beyond 2011. Of the 39,000 troops in Iraq, only about 150, a negligible force, will remain to assist in arms sales. The negotiations were strained following WikiLeaks' release of a diplomatic cable that alleged Iraqi civilians, including children, were killed in a 2006 raid by American troops rather than in an airstrike as initially reported by the U.S. military. U.S. troops have already started the drawdown - a brigade from Fort Bliss, Texas, that was originally scheduled to be among the very last to leave Iraq was being pulled out of the country months ahead of its planned departure, military officials told CNN last week. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
Better late than never |
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| Author: | Northside_Dan [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
Coming in December 2011. You're going to Iran/Afghanistan/Pakistan/Syria/Libya! |
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| Author: | Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
Krazy Ivan wrote: About 39,000 U.S. troops are in Iraq, and the U.S. had wanted to keep from 3,000 to 5,000 troops in Iraq past 2011 to aid in training and security. But the current Status of Forces Agreement with Iraq dictates the U.S. troops leave by year's end, and the United States and Iraq had been unable to come to an agreement on key issues regarding legal immunity for U.S. troops who would remain in Iraq, effectively ending discussion of maintaining a significant American force presence beyond 2011. Sounds to me like he wanted to keep them there a bit longer, but now has no choice but to bring the troops home. To-may-to, to-mah-to. |
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| Author: | W_Z [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
comes a little too close to "election season" for me to buy this is as anything more than a stunt; but i'm glad they're being taken out of that ridiculous situation. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
Northside_Dan wrote: Coming in December 2011. You're going to Iran/Afghanistan/Pakistan/Syria/Libya! Yup. The FB statuses from Afghanistan are interesting. |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
Nicely done, Mr. President. |
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| Author: | W_Z [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
FavreFan wrote: Northside_Dan wrote: Coming in December 2011. You're going to Iran/Afghanistan/Pakistan/Syria/Libya! Yup. The FB statuses from Afghanistan are interesting. not a whole lotta 'likes' i take it.
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| Author: | Telegram Sam [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
W_Z wrote: comes a little too close to "election season" for me to buy this is as anything more than a stunt Thirteen months? |
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| Author: | T-Bone [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
Glad our people are finally coming home. Won't be long till we stick our nose somewhere else... |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
Telegram Sam wrote: W_Z wrote: comes a little too close to "election season" for me to buy this is as anything more than a stunt Thirteen months? You dont think were in election season already Sam? |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
W_Z wrote: FavreFan wrote: Northside_Dan wrote: Coming in December 2011. You're going to Iran/Afghanistan/Pakistan/Syria/Libya! Yup. The FB statuses from Afghanistan are interesting. not a whole lotta 'likes' i take it. There's some making the most of their time there. Others have been pretty negative. The majority of them make the whole damn country sound like a shooting/ballistics range. |
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| Author: | W_Z [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
Telegram Sam wrote: W_Z wrote: comes a little too close to "election season" for me to buy this is as anything more than a stunt Thirteen months? absolutely. this may be pre-season but it is still pretty important. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
FavreFan wrote: Northside_Dan wrote: Coming in December 2011. You're going to Iran/Afghanistan/Pakistan/Syria/Libya! Yup. The FB statuses from Afghanistan are interesting. Would you mind some nameless sharing? Im just interested, obviously understand if not |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
Even when he does something everyone can agree is a good thing...... 
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| Author: | Telegram Sam [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
Krazy Ivan wrote: Even when he does something everyone can agree is a good thing...... Wait until they start asking that six-headed biweekly debating monster what it thinks... |
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| Author: | Evil J.A.C.K. [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
Krazy Ivan wrote: Even when he does something everyone can agree is a good thing...... A condition unique to this President only, I am quite sure. How sad. This gentleman simply does not get any benefit of the doubt. |
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| Author: | Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
W_Z wrote: comes a little too close to "election season" for me to buy this is as anything more than a stunt; but i'm glad they're being taken out of that ridiculous situation. The actual election is more than a year away & "election season" started almost year ago. Should he have withdrawn troops over a year ago just to avoid suspicion (Bin Ladin says yes)? Or should he leave the troops there for another year?When the terrorist threat level gets bumped up in concert with bad news cycles then you may be onto something. |
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| Author: | Killer V [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
So he's purposely going to drive up unemployment rates? |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
Krazy Ivan wrote: Even when he does something everyone can agree is a good thing...... Just to clarify, I was just pointing out how wrong Telegram Sam was. I dont consider this to be any more of a political move than every other move every president has ever made. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
Quote: Shot the old front loader m16, rode in an up-armored G-class Mercedes and played with incendiary grenades today. Also got some time on the ole .50  Quote: Trained up on the "mini gun" and got about 500 rounds through that sucker. I see you all scared Talib- you should be. Quote: Well fuck, I might not even remember how to plug in a lamp when I get back but I'm sure as hell a master Euro electrician after just a few months in country Quote: I think burger king is hooking us up, I remember this stuff being dogshit back in Cali and I'll b damned if it isn't amazing shit now. Quote: weell facebook i know yall think i forgot about yall but i didnt to all my friends and family out there that knows where u stand with me i love and miss yall feel free to send care packages my wife has the address. please send copenhagen if its cheaper than 5 dollars a can send it please. Quote: im in pain but i wont show it, im angry but u wont know it, instead ill stay to myself and lick my wounds like the alpha male wolf that i am and make sure im ready for the hunt, dont worry i will be there to lead my battle's into victory when im called upon. if u choose to follow me i will lead and take care of you. Quote: If I had just one wish from genie I wish me and all my battle's safety out here - this shut isn't a game and there's no pause no reset and no xbox controller there's no such thing as kill streaks just not dying streaks I appreciate the love and prayers, we need them. thank you
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
rogers park bryan wrote: I was just pointing out how wrong Telegram Sam was. 
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
Krazy Ivan wrote: and the United States and Iraq had been unable to come to an agreement on key issues regarding legal immunity for U.S. troops who would remain in Iraq
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| Author: | Evil J.A.C.K. [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
I am withholding my support of this shoutout until I know whether he can successfully negotiate a blow job in exchange for going to Hallmark to buy ornaments. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
Shouldn't this be a shoutout for George Bush instead? He was the one who set this timeframe. This would kind of be like giving Barack Obama a shoutout for leaving office in 2016 when his term limit is over. |
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| Author: | NearWessSideHussra [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
If Axelrod is trying to get Obama re-elected based on the President's efforts in the foreign policy arena, it's a likely recipe for failure. Bragging to your home voters about your overseas successes while unemployment at home is over 9% (and rising) and the domestic situation is circling the drain is like regaling your wife with whom you have bad sex once every 3 months with tales of your prowess with various mistresses. The last President who thought he could coast to re-election based on his strong foreign policy efforts was a 1 term President. And the inverse is also true, failure at foreign policy doesn't usually cost Presidents re-election (to an extent, fucking up big time in the foreign policy arena is likely to get you impeached, but unelected as well). Even W and his people thought they had screwed the pooch on WMD's and the Iraq war taking way longer than they originally promised. But then gas fell below $2 a gallon in mid-2004 and unemployment--which had spiked over 6% after 9/11--fell below 5%. The economy in 2004 was in the first stages of a boom (as specious a bubble-boom as it turned out to be) and that carried the day in 2004. Heck, probably the greatest leader in the 20th Century in terms of foreign policy, Winston Churchill, had his ticket polled by the British voters (in a landslide) whilst he was negotiating the terms of the end of World War II at Potsdam. Unfortunately, Churchill's replacement, Clement Attlee, wasn't quite as anti-Stalin as Churchill and Stalin took over once Churchill was unseated and dictated the terms of the settlement to give Russia a ginormous buffer between Moscow and Western Europe. |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
This wasn't put in the politics section for a reason... |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
Krazy Ivan wrote: This wasn't put in the politics section for a reason... Didn't want any differing opinions? |
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| Author: | Baby McNown [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
Krazy Ivan wrote: This wasn't put in the politics section for a reason... The effort was valiant Ivan. The problem is that due to their advanced Obama Derangement Syndrome, even when things happen that everybody and their grandmother things are good, there will be every effort to spin it in a negative manor. If this had happened under Bush 2's watch or if McCain had one, every damn one of them would be waving a flag and posting pics of Bush in his flight suit and codpiece. And they damn well know it. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The President of the United States Barack Obama |
Baby McNown wrote: If this had happened under Bush 2's watch or if McCain had one, every damn one of them would be waving a flag and posting pics of Bush in his flight suit and codpiece. And they damn well know it. But, it did.I'm not a fan of GW Bush, but doesn't the guy who actually set the timeline deserve some credit too? If anything, both Obama and Bush 2 deserve credit. |
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