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Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:37 pm ]
Post subject:  The Pittsburgh Pirates

Pirate fan has his first good day as a fan in like 20 years

Even though the Cubs benefitted from the Pirates running a AAA team the last 15 years, its not good for baseball.

Glad this is done.



Pirates, McCutchen agree on new contract
Monday, March 05, 2012
By Bill Brink and Michael Sanserino, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Fla. -- The Pirates and star center fielder Andrew McCutchen agreed to terms on a six-year contract worth $51.5 million with a club option for 2018 worth $14.75 million, according to a source.

The contract will buy out McCutchen's remaining arbitration seasons and at least two years of free agency.

McCutchen, 25, is one of the best center fielders in the National League. He earned a spot on the NL All-Star team in 2011 and hit .259 with 23 home runs and 89 RBIs last season.

McCutchen joins Jose Tabata as the only Pirates player with a long-term contract. Tabata signed a six-year, $15 million contract with three club options in August.

McCutchen's contract status has attracted a great deal of attention in recent years as his performance improved. The Pirates discussed an extension early in 2011 but talks stalled as the season progressed.

"We said from the very beginning that we have a plan to build talent and then to retain and build on talent that are key pieces of the organization," team principal owner Bob Nutting told the media last week. "[General manager] Neal [Huntington] has a clear understanding of what those key pieces are."

The contract is comparable to those of Arizona Diamondbacks outfielder Justin Upton, who signed a six-year, $51.25 million contract before the 2010 season, and Cincinnati Reds outfielder Jay Bruce, who signed a six-year, $51 million contract before last season.

"When you enter a negotiation, you're at X, the player's at Z, and you work awfully hard to try to find Y," Huntington said at PirateFest in December when discussing a possible contract extension for McCutchen. "There has to be a shared risk on both sides."

The Pirates selected McCutchen 11th overall in the 2005 draft. Upton was the first overall pick in that draft, and Bruce was selected 12th.

McCutchen would have been eligible for arbitration for the first time after this season. He has a career .276 average and .365 on-base percentage. He debuted with the Pirates in 2009.

Author:  RFDC [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Pittsburgh Pirates

One good player signed does not end their reign as a AAA team.

you should have given them a shoutout for almost winning the NLCS like 20 years ago

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:40 pm ]
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I understand signing one player doesnt change everything but its a pretty huge deal to Pirates fans who have been fucked over by management forever.

Author:  312player [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:45 pm ]
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this is good for the league and pittsburgh ..he is a young star on the rise and so is the team, he does not need to go to boston or ny.

Author:  stoneroses86 [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:56 pm ]
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I want to give a preemptive "Shoutout" to the Pittsburgh Pirates for almost winning sixty-eight (68) games in 2012.

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:00 pm ]
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SR 86 is really having a difficult with the shoutout section today.

Author:  Peoria Matt [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:56 pm ]
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stoneroses86 wrote:
I want to give a preemptive "Shoutout" to the Pittsburgh Pirates for almost winning sixty-eight (68) games in 2012.


Cheer up, buddy. Did someone steal your Paul Blair jersey?

Author:  stoneroses86 [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:18 pm ]
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Peoria Matt wrote:
stoneroses86 wrote:
I want to give a preemptive "Shoutout" to the Pittsburgh Pirates for almost winning sixty-eight (68) games in 2012.


Cheer up, buddy. Did someone steal your Paul Blair jersey?

Paul Blair! How did you come up with that name? I am literally laughing out loud!

Apropos of nothing, I want to send a belated "Shoutout" to the French armed forces for almost holding off the Nazis. Let me hear you say "HOLLER FRENCH FORCES!!!" Whoo, whoo, whoo!

Author:  Peoria Matt [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:28 pm ]
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70's and 80's mediocre players are forever etched in my brain. Thought you might like that one. I think one of his cards featured his Yankee cap perched precariously on his head.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:31 pm ]
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stoneroses86 wrote:
Peoria Matt wrote:
stoneroses86 wrote:
I want to give a preemptive "Shoutout" to the Pittsburgh Pirates for almost winning sixty-eight (68) games in 2012.


Cheer up, buddy. Did someone steal your Paul Blair jersey?

Paul Blair! How did you come up with that name? I am literally laughing out loud!

Apropos of nothing, I want to send a belated "Shoutout" to the French armed forces for almost holding off the Nazis. Let me hear you say "HOLLER FRENCH FORCES!!!" Whoo, whoo, whoo!

As hilarious as that is, you have to see how this is a positive for Pirates fans.


Would you shout down a hobo who got an apartment and job and celebrated that?

Author:  stoneroses86 [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:33 pm ]
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Image

Author:  JORR [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:34 pm ]
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Peoria Matt wrote:
70's and 80's mediocre players are forever etched in my brain. Thought you might like that one. I think one of his cards featured his Yankee cap perched precariously on his head.



I wouldn't really call Blair "mediocre". He was probably the premier defensive outfielder of his time.

Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:36 pm ]
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Favorite current MLB player.

Author:  stoneroses86 [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Pittsburgh Pirates

I want to send out a "Shoutout" to Paul Blair for almost making the Hall of Fame.

rogers park bryan wrote:
Would you shout down a hobo who got an apartment and job and celebrated that?

This is a riddle, correct? The answer is: If he had a job and an apartment, he would no longer be a hobo!

What do I win?

Author:  Urlacher's missing neck [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Pittsburgh Pirates

They will trade him at next years deadline.

Author:  RFDC [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:40 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Peoria Matt wrote:
70's and 80's mediocre players are forever etched in my brain. Thought you might like that one. I think one of his cards featured his Yankee cap perched precariously on his head.



I wouldn't really call Blair "mediocre". He was probably the premier defensive outfielder of his time.


Dennis Rodman was a better outfielder than Blair.

Author:  Peoria Matt [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:41 pm ]
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I do agree with the shoutout.

I assumed he would be traded and/or allowed to walk. Welcome to the 20th century, Pirate fans.

That's the 1, Stoneroses. Nice work.

And JORR, I stand corrected. I will respect my elder's statement regarding Blair's ability to throw the leather around.

Author:  Drop In [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:56 pm ]
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The Pirates have also spent fifty million dollars on draft and international signings since 2008.

Author:  Apologist [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:36 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
The contract is comparable to those of Arizona Diamondbacks outfielder Justin Upton, who signed a six-year, $51.25 million contract before the 2010 season, and Cincinnati Reds outfielder Jay Bruce, who signed a six-year, $51 million contract before last season.



Excellent signing for the Pirates. Upton may yet hit a higher ceiling and is younger. McC is superior to Bruce already. However, both those guys are RF and while Cutch isn't a Gold Glover, he is passable at a far more important defensive position. I'd say he is about average to the eye out there with the potential to improve. Even if PIT came up with a CF with superior range, his bat can play in the corners. Only concern with Cutch is he has a smallish frame so you wonder how much more power he is going to develop. Still hit 23 bombs and is easily the franchise player at this point. Nitpicky, but I wonder if he is really going to be a 3-4 hitter in a superior lineup. If this guy was your 1-2 hitter in a stacked lineup, he'd be awesome. Good contract.

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