FavreFan wrote:
Found innocent of taking steroids!
Name has been cleared.
Best pitcher ever.
Name has been cleared.
Best pitcher ever.
Money well spent government....money well spent....
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Roger Clemens! |
Found innocent of taking steroids! Name has been cleared. Best pitcher ever. |
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| Author: | sjboyd0137 [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
I'm still disappointed that his last professional game wasn't him limping off the mound in Game 1 of the 05 World Series. Screw him. |
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| Author: | Phil McCracken [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
FavreFan wrote: Found innocent of taking steroids! Name has been cleared. Best pitcher ever. Money well spent government....money well spent.... |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
You moost be yoking. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
BETTER THAN STARLING CASTRO! |
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| Author: | Urlacher's missing neck [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
Frosted tips FTW!!! |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
He's still a pudwhack. Guilty as charged. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
Frank Coztansa wrote: BETTER THAN STARLING CASTRO! BUT WORSE THAN SHAWN DUNSTON! |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
I am sick of the government prosecuting for people lying. If you can't convict them of the underlying crime, then forget it. Here is what they charged him with: Clemens was charged with one count of obstruction of Congress, three counts of making a false statement and two counts of perjury. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
denisdman wrote: I am sick of the government prosecuting for people lying. If you can't convict them of the underlying crime, then forget it. Here is what they charged him with: Clemens was charged with one count of obstruction of Congress, three counts of making a false statement and two counts of perjury. Yeah, lying under oath is no big deal. 
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| Author: | sinicalypse [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
FavreFan wrote: Best pitcher ever. Right team wrong guy 
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
Douchebag wrote: denisdman wrote: I am sick of the government prosecuting for people lying. If you can't convict them of the underlying crime, then forget it. Here is what they charged him with: Clemens was charged with one count of obstruction of Congress, three counts of making a false statement and two counts of perjury. Yeah, lying under oath is no big deal. is it your belief that every law that is broken should be/is prosecuted |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
good dolphin wrote: Douchebag wrote: denisdman wrote: I am sick of the government prosecuting for people lying. If you can't convict them of the underlying crime, then forget it. Here is what they charged him with: Clemens was charged with one count of obstruction of Congress, three counts of making a false statement and two counts of perjury. Yeah, lying under oath is no big deal. is it your belief that every law that is broken should be/is prosecuted No, but lying under oath is a good law I think. As a lawyer shouldn't you be in agreement with this one? Obviously this case means nothing, but to completely dismiss the government prosecuting people that commit perjury is extremely eyeroll worthy. |
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| Author: | sinicalypse [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
Q.Bovifs wrote: ROGER DODGER!!! is a spirited round of odb brooklyn zoo in the offing? |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
Douchebag wrote: [Yeah, lying under oath is no big deal. is it your belief that every law that is broken should be/is prosecuted[/quote] No, but lying under oath is a good law I think. As a lawyer shouldn't you be in agreement with this one? Obviously this case means nothing, but to completely dismiss the government prosecuting people that commit perjury is extremely eyeroll worthy.[/quote] who said I am not do you think that every good law that is broken is prosecuted |
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| Author: | beni hanna [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
good dolphin wrote: Douchebag wrote: No, but lying under oath is a good law I think. As a lawyer shouldn't you be in agreement with this one? Obviously this case means nothing, but to completely dismiss the government prosecuting people that commit perjury is extremely eyeroll worthy. who said I am not do you think that every good law that is broken is prosecuted I need a good dolphin list. 1. Laws broken that should be prosecuted. 2. Laws broken that should not be prosecuted. 3. Laws NOT written that should be prosecuted. With zero malice intended in this post, I might find that an interesting list. Edited to add #3 |
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| Author: | Jbi11s [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
This is bullshit... |
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| Author: | Urlacher's missing neck [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
I think the winning strategy was to find an even bigger douche, Rusty Shackelford, to be the legal representation of Clemens thus making him look like less of a douche just for being in his company. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
Blame Andy Pettite for changing his testimony. |
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| Author: | Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
Douchebag wrote: No, but lying under oath is a good law I think. As a lawyer shouldn't you be in agreement with this one? Personally I believe he is guilty as hell & hope he never makes the HOF. That said, I don't think the government should waste their time on sports related "scandals".
Obviously this case means nothing, but to completely dismiss the government prosecuting people that commit perjury is extremely eyeroll worthy. |
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| Author: | doug - evergreen park [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
sjboyd0137 wrote: I'm still disappointed that his last professional game wasn't him limping off the mound in Game 1 of the 05 World Series. Screw him. Yeah, I would have preferred his throat was pierced by the barrel of Piazza's splintered bat. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
doug - evergreen park wrote: sjboyd0137 wrote: I'm still disappointed that his last professional game wasn't him limping off the mound in Game 1 of the 05 World Series. Screw him. Yeah, I would have preferred his throat was pierced by the barrel of Piazza's splintered bat. That likely would've taken the Ryan v. Ventura meeting on the mound as my all-time favorite non-baseball baseball moment ... ah, dare to dream .... |
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| Author: | cpguy [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
Clemems certainly was a roid freak. And big time. |
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| Author: | Big Chicagoan [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
Fuck Clemens |
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| Author: | 312player [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
denisdman wrote: I am sick of the government prosecuting for people lying. If you can't convict them of the underlying crime, then forget it. Here is what they charged him with: Clemens was charged with one count of obstruction of Congress, three counts of making a false statement and two counts of perjury. He should have been convicted on all 6 ...what choice did they have when this loud mouthed hillbilly demanded a congressional hearing to attempt to salvage his reputation...Everyone with a functioning brain knows he is a juiced up phony and will never sniff the hall of fame..Greg maddux is the GOAT |
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| Author: | Elmhurst Steve [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
312player wrote: denisdman wrote: I am sick of the government prosecuting for people lying. If you can't convict them of the underlying crime, then forget it. Here is what they charged him with: Clemens was charged with one count of obstruction of Congress, three counts of making a false statement and two counts of perjury. He should have been convicted on all 6 ...what choice did they have when this loud mouthed hillbilly demanded a congressional hearing to attempt to salvage his reputation...Everyone with a functioning brain knows he is a juiced up phony and will never sniff the hall of fame..Greg maddux is the GOAT WRONG....Clemens will be voted into the HOF, if not on the first ballot, shortly thereafter. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
beni hanna wrote: good dolphin wrote: Douchebag wrote: No, but lying under oath is a good law I think. As a lawyer shouldn't you be in agreement with this one? Obviously this case means nothing, but to completely dismiss the government prosecuting people that commit perjury is extremely eyeroll worthy. who said I am not do you think that every good law that is broken is prosecuted I need a good dolphin list. 1. Laws broken that should be prosecuted. 2. Laws broken that should not be prosecuted. 3. Laws NOT written that should be prosecuted. With zero malice intended in this post, I might find that an interesting list. Edited to add #3 I don't think it is a matter of any of your three statements. All levels of law enforcement have limited resources so there is prosecutorial discretion on every level from the beat cop making/not making an arrest on up. I think a big part of the equation in deciding when to use a resource should include whether the public safety continues to be in jeopardy by not prosecuting and whether justice has been done. In this case, there is no danger to the public safety and Clemens name is mud. However, you could make the argument that not prosecuting a well known case emboldens lesser people in the future. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
Why is it when federal prosecutors get involved in sports related trials, they're absolutely the Clampetts? They have something like a 90% success rate in everyday trials, but with sports related ones they consistently shit the bed. |
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| Author: | Elmhurst Steve [ Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
Terry's Peeps wrote: Why is it when federal prosecutors get involved in sports related trials, they're absolutely the Clampetts? They have something like a 90% success rate in everyday trials, but with sports related ones they consistently shit the bed. I'm guessing that the quality of attorney used by the high profile athlete has a lot to do with it. |
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| Author: | doug - evergreen park [ Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Roger Clemens! |
Elmhurst Steve wrote: WRONG....Clemens will be voted into the HOF, if not on the first ballot, shortly thereafter. Not a fucking chance. |
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