For bringing out the best in the USA basketball team.

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Thats what happens when you have a Junk Punching teammate like Chris Paul

Maybe Chris Paul isn't any better than John Stockton.

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And these guys consider themselves better than the Dream Team?

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No, they actually don't. Although there are a few players on this team good enough to have played on the original Dream Team. Kobe, Lebron, and Carmelo being three of them.

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On some real shit though...

I didn't know light-skinned dudes were allowed in Compton.

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I didn't expect it to be that great but it's downright shocking how little interior defense this team actually plays. Chandler is the only guy even making an attempt and if he's out it is nonexistent.

Also, disappointing how they just settle for being a 3-point shooting team. They are an excellent shooting team, don't get me wrong, but a team that has the ability to assemble that much talent should be more balanced on the offensive end.

I think I've seen Lebron post up about 5 times in the 3 games I've watched and that has been the extent of the low-post offense. As they currently play, they are one bad shooting night away from disaster. They've avoided one already.

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Paul and LeBron would be the best at their respective positions if put on the original team.

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So were talking a time machine where its 92 then?

Because Magic and Stockton's primes are better than Chris Pauls

They only let him stay cuz he could ball.

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I'd say you'd have to judge both teams at the time the USA teams were playing. Magic was a shell of himself. Stokton anf Paul may be on the same level at the time...

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I know, but I think its a little misleading

Some might take FF's original statement to mean Paul> Magic and Stockton


As usual, time travel is the answer

The game has shifted to help pg's, but Stockton was awesome in 91-92. The one thing Paul could do better is score, but not by much, and Stockton ended up having the lowest scoring average on the dream team so I doubt Paul's ability to score would mean much.

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Stockton had a leg injury and barely played in the Olympics.

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Paul was a better defender and rebounder too. Stockton could get posted up by most decent point guards(Payton and Hardaway come to mind). Paul probably isn't as good a passer, but he doesn't really have any weaknesses in his game. Stockton did.

Yes RPB I meant the '92 team. I figured that was obvious. Nobody, including Chris Paul's family, thinks Paul was better than the '87 Magic.

We don't know if we've seen Paul's prime. It's not fair or accurate to say Stockton's was better. Like most debates here we won't know the answer for years.

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Who's righting off Stockton? Many smart basketball minds would say Paul is better. Many smart basketball minds would also say Stockton was better. Nobody's disrespecting anybody here. I think Paul is more talented than John Stockton was. That's not an insult to Stockton. Chris Paul is really, really damn good.

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I think those guys would just as effectively post up Chris Paul.

Calling them "decent" post-up points is a bit of an understatement.

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The dream team really didn't need a rebounding pg. In fact, I doubt you'd even want a point guard to try and rebound on that team. I also doubt given what the dream team had in the post that anyone would be posting up Stockton.
I'm not judging by primes. I'm judging 2012 Paul vs. 1992 Stockton. Stockton wins that one.

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I don't see how. He might have been a better passer. Thats really it, and its debateable. And according to Ken Stockton was hurt. I think Paul wins that one.

Regardless, the Dream Team didn't NEED a PG at all. They would've dominated with anyone on the team playing that role basically. But if they wanted the best one available between 2012 Paul and 1992 Stockton, Paul's the better player.

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And I thought it would be even more obvious that I mean Paul's prime so far

Jordan injured Stockton's leg in practice.

Quite naturally, Jordan would have literally ripped Chris Paul's legs from their hip sockets.

YOU TELL HIM!!

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So you think Paul is better than everything but passing, and that's debatable? Didn't you earlier say that either answer could be right?

Wouldn't you say that 1992 Stockton played better in the NBA than 2012 Paul did?

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I didn't realize you were just comparing their first 8 seasons. I think Paul has been better than Stockton was at the same points in their careers.

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Stockton had better raw numbers, I believe Paul was the better player. As I said, Paul doesn't really have any weaknesses. Stockton did. Paul has yet to play with a top 3 PF of all time also.

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2012 PG is a very different position than 1992 PG


It makes the already difficult comparison even worse

I wish lance Haffner was still making his games. They are perfect for this. They are number crunchy stat driven stuff awesome. I have the Prowrestling and Baseball games. Nothing like pitting the 27 Yankees vs the 1918 white sox or Hogan at his prime vs Lou These. Great stuff. He did games for everything.

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