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Author:  Urlacher's missing neck [ Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:24 pm ]
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You just won the AL West....in style.

You have also just accomplished a feat that is the opposite of CHOKING!!!

Author:  cpguy [ Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:27 pm ]
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Awesome story indeed!

To bad the Cubs didn't get Cespedes.

Author:  bigfan [ Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:32 pm ]
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Thankfully Billy Beane doesnt try to win every year like Kenny does, or they would be a Dynasty!

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:46 pm ]
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Maybe this will be the year that Beane becomes as good a GM as Kenny and wins a World Series.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:29 pm ]
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bigfan wrote:
Thankfully Billy Beane doesnt try to win every year like Kenny does, or they would be a Dynasty!
The Sox have won more playoff series in their 1 World Series year than Beane has in his entire tenure to this point.

Same thing with the Twins and Gardenhire. You take the dynasty, I'll take the ring.

Author:  Mini Ditka [ Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:09 pm ]
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The playoffs and the regular season are really nothing alike in baseball. A team like the Atlanta Braves can dominate their division for more than 10 years and only win 1 title. Really the only team that's had much success repeating is the Yankees and that's because they spend more on their players than any other team.

The White Sox caught just about every break during their run to the title. If you ask Joe Buck they would probably have lost to the Angels if not for the Pierzynski play because that play helped tie the series. Also the Sox did not have to play the Yankees and they had a weak Astros team that made it to the World Series. The Sox had some of the most unbelievable pitching performances by every starter and every pitcher who came out of the pen. Plus they had timely game winning hits.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:12 pm ]
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The 2005 White Sox had one of the most dominating post seasons in the history of baseball.

Kenny Williams is a better GM than Billy Beane.

Phone call over.

Author:  Coast2Coast [ Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:37 pm ]
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Both teams in town make the playoffs. What a concept. Bay Area Series!

Giants fans would welcome a rematch and payback for 89....without the quake.

Author:  Apologist [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:40 am ]
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They didn't spend a single day in first all year.

I believe all 4 of their playoff starters are rookies. I doubt that has ever happened before. Texas played horribly down the stretch, but what the Athletic has done with a bunch of obscure and odd parts is a thing.

Author:  Colonel Angus [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:03 am ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
The 2005 White Sox had one of the most dominating post seasons in the history of baseball.

Kenny Williams is a better GM than Billy Beane.

Phone call over.

I don't know about that. Yes, the World Series trumps multiple playoff (playoffs?) appearances, but Kenny is still Kenny. :P

Author:  KDdidit [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:29 am ]
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Extra shoutout to Dempster blowing it for Texas.

Author:  JORR [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:33 am ]
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Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
You just won the AL West....in style.

You have also just accomplished a feat that is the opposite of CHOKING!!!



Did they really win anything? Or did Texas just choke?

Author:  City of Fools [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:49 pm ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
The 2005 White Sox had one of the most dominating post seasons in the history of baseball.

Kenny Williams is a better GM than Billy Beane.

Phone call over.

I think until Billy has a Kenny sized Payroll that the grade would be incomplete.

Author:  City of Fools [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:27 pm ]
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Q.Bovifs wrote:
Be pretty funny if Rangers win the play-in and then go all the way.

other than screwing MLB, I don't really find that funny.

Author:  Colonel Angus [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:44 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
You just won the AL West....in style.

You have also just accomplished a feat that is the opposite of CHOKING!!!



Did they really win anything? Or did Texas just choke?

Image

Author:  Mini Ditka [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:32 pm ]
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MLB's playoffs are somewhat of an after thought with the NFL and other winter sports. I think the problem is they have the longest season and the shortest post-season. You have 162 games for every team and only 5 teams from each league are qualified to make the playoffs. Winning a championship requires winning 16 games in the NBA, 16 games in the NHL, 11 games in MLB and 3 or 4 games in the NFL. I don't see why they can't let more teams in.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:37 pm ]
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Mini Ditka wrote:
I don't see why they can't let more teams in.


Mini Ditka wrote:
You have 162 games for every team

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:08 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
bigfan wrote:
Thankfully Billy Beane doesnt try to win every year like Kenny does, or they would be a Dynasty!
The Sox have won more playoff series in their 1 World Series year than Beane has in his entire tenure to this point.
Yet ANOTHER ALDS loss for Beane. I can't believe the guy gets universally praised. Sure, he's a good GM but when will he start taking some heat for never winning anything more than a Division series? I don't want to say he is an awful GM but that couldn't be further from the truth.

Clearly nobody thought Oakland would do anything this year and he put a team out there that won a division. All I'm saying is that if Beane is gonna get praise for making something out of nothing, he should also get knocked for his teams never being able to win in the playoffs.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:19 am ]
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Billy Beane is a very good talent evaluator.

It'd be interesting to see what he'd do with a big payroll.

Author:  Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:23 am ]
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Agree with Frank. Heard Millar saying this morning that Melvin should win manager of the year, or at least be co-manager of the year. I threw up Buck Showalter all over my car. Fine, you beat out Anaheim's and the Ranger's payroll. After that? Failure.

Yes, Beane evaluates talent well, but when you have Zito, Mulder and Hudson, as well as a pretty solid lineup, and the team doesn't win it all? How many times do I have to hear the guy is a giant killer when he hasn't won the world series yet?

Author:  Kirkwood [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:26 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
bigfan wrote:
Thankfully Billy Beane doesnt try to win every year like Kenny does, or they would be a Dynasty!
The Sox have won more playoff series in their 1 World Series year than Beane has in his entire tenure to this point.
Yet ANOTHER ALDS loss for Beane. I can't believe the guy gets universally praised. Sure, he's a good GM but when will he start taking some heat for never winning anything more than a Division series? I don't want to say he is an awful GM but that couldn't be further from the truth.

Clearly nobody thought Oakland would do anything this year and he put a team out there that won a division. All I'm saying is that if Beane is gonna get praise for making something out of nothing, he should also get knocked for his teams never being able to win in the playoffs.

His owner is a real life Rachel Phelps. The fuck is he supposed to do?

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:27 am ]
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Beane barely lets the manager do anything, Millar is an idiot

Author:  Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:30 am ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Beane barely lets the manager do anything, Millar is an idiot


And don't get me wrong, I do like Beane, but I have to ask how it is that his teams streak during the regular season and burn out in the playoffs on a consistent basis. There has to be something to it. I want them to win it all at least once, but this is a lot of consistent fail.

Author:  Kirkwood [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:35 am ]
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Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Beane barely lets the manager do anything, Millar is an idiot


And don't get me wrong, I do like Beane, but I have to ask how it is that his teams streak during the regular season and burn out in the playoffs on a consistent basis. There has to be something to it. I want them to win it all at least once, but this is a lot of consistent fail.

If he's constantly rebuilding and plugging in rookies & 2nd year players the grind of a regular season will nail them. They likely wear down b/c they don't have the stamina and/or experience to deal with playoff ball.

No facts/stats to support but just my guess.

Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:34 am ]
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Kirkwood wrote:
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Beane barely lets the manager do anything, Millar is an idiot


And don't get me wrong, I do like Beane, but I have to ask how it is that his teams streak during the regular season and burn out in the playoffs on a consistent basis. There has to be something to it. I want them to win it all at least once, but this is a lot of consistent fail.

If he's constantly rebuilding and plugging in rookies & 2nd year players the grind of a regular season will nail them. They likely wear down b/c they don't have the stamina and/or experience to deal with playoff ball.

No facts/stats to support but just my guess.


But the team went on a run at the end of the season to win the division. So they wore down in a week? That doesnt make any sense.

Author:  Kirkwood [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:45 am ]
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Hank Scorpio wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Beane barely lets the manager do anything, Millar is an idiot


And don't get me wrong, I do like Beane, but I have to ask how it is that his teams streak during the regular season and burn out in the playoffs on a consistent basis. There has to be something to it. I want them to win it all at least once, but this is a lot of consistent fail.

If he's constantly rebuilding and plugging in rookies & 2nd year players the grind of a regular season will nail them. They likely wear down b/c they don't have the stamina and/or experience to deal with playoff ball.

No facts/stats to support but just my guess.


But the team went on a run at the end of the season to win the division. So they wore down in a week? That doesnt make any sense.

Never said it was a good guess.

Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:46 am ]
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:lol: :lol:

Author:  Curious Hair [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:10 pm ]
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Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Beane barely lets the manager do anything, Millar is an idiot


And don't get me wrong, I do like Beane, but I have to ask how it is that his teams streak during the regular season and burn out in the playoffs on a consistent basis. There has to be something to it. I want them to win it all at least once, but this is a lot of consistent fail.

They lost Game 5 to Justin Verlander, you idiot. What a chokejob!

Author:  Peoria Matt [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:13 pm ]
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I wish Beane would have taken the Red Sox job. It would be interesting to see what he would do with a big payroll.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:13 pm ]
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Peoria Matt wrote:
I wish Beane would have taken the Red Sox job. It would be interesting to see what he would do with a big payroll.

Same thing Theo Epstein did.

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