If you mean the amateurs that can be differentiated by their behavior, i.e getting loud, mouthy and obnoxious after two or three bud lights, then yes feel free to put me in Camp Complainer.

You obviously have never sat in front of said amateurs at a bears game, either with your young sons or your 75 year old father.

You obviously have never sat in front of said amateurs at a bears game, either with your young sons or your 75 year old father.

Probably becomes muscle memory after a while.

One of my friends who grew up Amish had a horse that knew exactly where to go. When he was on rumspringa and went out to get loaded, all he had to do was climb in the buggy and the horse would get him home without any driving. More than once Andy sat in the driveway slumped over in the buggy with the horse just standing stock still waiting for him to wake up.

You know, the guys that complain that only "amateurs" show up at bars on various days of the year like NYE, Wednesday before Thanksgiving, St. Patricks Day, and Cinco De Mayo. Congratulations on getting drunk at bars all the time! I'm sorry that you are bothered by people who don't.

I have no problem with either the amateur or the professional drinkers. It's the amateur drunk drivers I could do without. Give me a guy who drives wasted three or four times a week out there anyday. There is no substitute for experience.

I have no problem with either the amateur or the professional drinkers. It's the amateur drunk drivers I could do without. Give me a guy who drives wasted three or four times a week out there anyday. There is no substitute for experience.

I agree with this to a point, although I think it's more applicable to smoking weed. Whereas someone smoking as a one-off is obviously impaired (but probably drives cautious/slow), but the seasoned toker is generally just fine.

I mean, I've been the guy you describe before. Blacked out, had no idea how I drove home or, in one case, damaged my car. Many wasted post-closing time trips home - no DUIs, never been pulled over while drunk. Not my world anymore, but I can't help think it's only a matter of time for most folks. My college buddy who's doing 7 years in general population at San Quentin would agree.

Maybe it's a Chicago thing. I know more than a few cops who refuse to give DUIs and will give the drunk driver a ride home.

You know, the guys that complain that only "amateurs" show up at bars on various days of the year like NYE, Wednesday before Thanksgiving, St. Patricks Day, and Cinco De Mayo. Congratulations on getting drunk at bars all the time! I'm sorry that you are bothered by people who don't.

I can see you are running out of things to bitch about.

It was a shoutout Hoffy, not a complaint.

Nobody gets behind the wheel because they think they are going to kill someone or even put a scratch on their car. And pretty much everyone who drinks and owns a car has driven drunk.

Maybe, but some people grow up.

You do understand if you have a beer with your dinner at a restaurant, you're probably going to blow a positive unless you're Andre the Giant.

That is not correct.

That is not correct.

If only there was a way to not drink before you drive.

I know that scientifically a 170 lb. man should be able to metabolize a basic beer an hour and stay well under the legal limit. In practice with the way the breathalyzers may be calibrated, I don't believe that's always the case. Also, you can be cited for DUI even if you're under that .08 limit depending on the circumstances.

There are two ways to eliminate drunk driving. Eliminate booze or eliminate cars. That's reality. Nobody ever gets behind the wheel thinking he's going to be dangerous. That's because he's impaired. But suddenly a person is expected to demonstrate good judgment after he's been drinking. It's not realistic.

Don't drive drunk is just like say no to drugs or let's deport illegals because they're illegal. It's pie in the sky. People are going to drink and they're going to drive drunk. If you think that makes them Charles Manson, that's fine. I just don't feel that way.