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Author:  rogers park bryan [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:24 am ]
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I love this guy. He's like Hawk but on the field


Cooper On Managing Cubs: ‘They Could Do A Lot Worse’
October 1, 2013 9:56 AM

(WSCR) After the firing of Dale Sveum on Monday, rumors are beginning to circulate on who will be the Cubs next manager.

Tuesday morning on The Mully and Hanley Show, an interesting candidate threw his name in the ring.


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When asked if he’d be interested in the job, White Sox pitching coach Don Cooper didn’t shut the idea down completely.

“You know what,” Cooper said, “they can do a lot worse.”

“I said it before, pitching is my passion, but I know, I believe in my heart that I can run a team. If I have the right people around me, I believe I can do it. That’s not what I’m searching for. I’m searching for the pitching department, searching for us to be good enough to win another championship. We were blessed enough in ’05, that’s a while ago I know, but that’s the goal every year, to get into the playoffs and hopefully win a world championship. I’m very satisfied in doing what I’m doing.
Author:  Seacrest [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:31 am ]
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Call me when Hell freezes over.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:32 am ]
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Seacrest wrote:
Call me when Hell freezes over.

I feel like in that situation phones might not work. Towers would all be screwed up.



Coop is right. They can and might do worse.
Author:  Seacrest [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:33 am ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Call me when Hell freezes over.

I feel like in that situation phones might not work. Towers would all be screwed up.



Coop is right. They can and might do worse.



I didn't know that you lived that far South.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:34 am ]
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Seacrest wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Call me when Hell freezes over.

I feel like in that situation phones might not work. Towers would all be screwed up.



Coop is right. They can and might do worse.



I didn't know that you lived that far South.

Feels like Heaven
Author:  Scorehead [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:36 am ]
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No...
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:40 am ]
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Just because Coop is an insufferable assbag on the radio doesn't necessarily mean he would not be a good manager. I think he's been a damn successful pitching coach.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:42 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Just because Coop is an insufferable assbag on the radio doesn't necessarily mean he would not be a good manager. I think he's been a damn successful pitching coach.

The press interaction would be great
Author:  RFDC [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:43 am ]
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I think that would be along the same lines of the KC Chiefs hiring Gunther Cunningham to be their head coach a few years back. Gunther was an odd duck that was very good at running a defense and most of the fans loved his off the cuff strange comments in the media. Yet when he was a head coach it was clear he was in over his head and he needed to return to his area of expertise.

I like Coop and he does a darn good job as a pitching coach but I think he would be in over his head as a manager.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:43 am ]
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Alright UMN, just get it out of your system
Author:  Brick [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:44 am ]
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After the Cubs fans shamed World Series caliber managers in Dusty Baker and Lou Pinella I think Coop would be hesitant to get paid to eventually be hated.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:46 am ]
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vodka coop lol /<UMN

RFDC, I think its a lot different being a head coach of an NFL team than being an MLB manager. I think its very easy for an assistant coach or coordinator to get in way over his head as a head coach. I think that would be very unlikely for a guy who has been around as long as Coop has should he be given the chance to manage.
Author:  RFDC [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:49 am ]
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Maybe so Frank.

I would take him right now over Ventura.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:49 am ]
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Don Cooper was interim manager for the last two games after Ozzie bolted early. That's the kind of major-league leadership Theo prioritizes.
Author:  jimmypasta [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:50 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
vodka coop lol /<UMN

RFDC, I think its a lot different being a head coach of an NFL team than being an MLB manager. I think its very easy for an assistant coach or coordinator to get in way over his head as a head coach. I think that would be very unlikely for a guy who has been around as long as Coop has should he be given the chance to manage.


Theo has already said he would like to retain Chris Bosio. So the Cubs want a guy who could develop hitters,I would think. I would have kept Sveum. If they don't get Girardi,what was the point?
Author:  Scorehead [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:57 am ]
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jimmypasta wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
vodka coop lol /<UMN

RFDC, I think its a lot different being a head coach of an NFL team than being an MLB manager. I think its very easy for an assistant coach or coordinator to get in way over his head as a head coach. I think that would be very unlikely for a guy who has been around as long as Coop has should he be given the chance to manage.


Theo has already said he would like to retain Chris Bosio. So the Cubs want a guy who could develop hitters,I would think. I would have kept Sveum. If they don't get Girardi,what was the point?


Jimmy, Dale Sveum was hired as a 2 year Manager while the Cubs wait for Girardis contract to expire next Month. I'm pretty sure this was Theo's plan from day 1. Joe is coming home.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:01 am ]
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

You keep amazing me with your stupidity, scorehead. You honestly believe that was Theo's plan from day 1? Wow.
Author:  Seacrest [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:06 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

You keep amazing me with your stupidity, scorehead. You honestly believe that was Theo's plan from day 1? Wow.



That wouldn't surprise me in the least.
Author:  good dolphin [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:16 am ]
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Coop was the kind of guy they should have hired two years ago, a steward of the position who would be the face of the team until developing players made it to the majors. He would be good for a sound bite every day, a few blow ups during the season and would defend his players to the outside world.

Now, they need a different type of manager. They need one with patience who is a teacher at heart.

I, too, would take Coop over Ventura, but I don't want Coop.
Author:  Scorehead [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:19 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

You keep amazing me with your stupidity, scorehead. You honestly believe that was Theo's plan from day 1? Wow.


Yup. Things like this happen in sports all the time.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:20 am ]
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All the time....
Author:  Scorehead [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:23 am ]
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The way that guys are hired in sports is no different than in business. Tampering goes on all the time. Guys are networked & know each other & talk, even if they aren't supposed to.
Author:  Scorehead [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:24 am ]
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immessedup17 wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

You keep amazing me with your stupidity, scorehead. You honestly believe that was Theo's plan from day 1? Wow.



That wouldn't surprise me in the least.

Same. The only question on any Cubs fan's mind was if Sveum was going to be here for 2 or 3 years. No one ever saw him as "the guy." Not on this board, not the media - no one.

Girardi is a logical candidate...though I think Theo originally preferred Francona over a Sveum -> Girardi situation.


Perhaps you or Seacrest can explain this to Frank. Maybe not...
Author:  JORR [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:25 am ]
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Scorehead wrote:
Jimmy, Dale Sveum was hired as a 2 year Manager while the Cubs wait for Girardis contract to expire next Month.


In that case, Theo is dumber than I thought since he signed him for three years.
Author:  good dolphin [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:29 am ]
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by the way, this is Coop posturing for the White Sox job. He has a history of undermining the manager once he sees the tides turning.
Author:  Scorehead [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:29 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
Jimmy, Dale Sveum was hired as a 2 year Manager while the Cubs wait for Girardis contract to expire next Month.


In that case, Theo is dumber than I thought since he signed him for three years.


Guys do that frequently for friends. Sort of a golden parachute.
Author:  JORR [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:30 am ]
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Scorehead wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
Jimmy, Dale Sveum was hired as a 2 year Manager while the Cubs wait for Girardis contract to expire next Month.


In that case, Theo is dumber than I thought since he signed him for three years.


Guys do that frequently for friends. Sort of a golden parachute.


If Theo walked into the Cubs offices and used a double-barreled shotgun to kill his entire staff, what would your excuse for him be?
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:31 am ]
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So, Scorehead, you are saying that Theo's plan all along was to pay a manager 3 years of salary for only 2 years worth of work?

Oh and on top of that, nobody really knows what Girardi is doing to do. I would say he is just as likely to stay in New York as he is to come to the Cubs. So what would his plan be then?
Author:  Seacrest [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:02 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
Jimmy, Dale Sveum was hired as a 2 year Manager while the Cubs wait for Girardis contract to expire next Month.


In that case, Theo is dumber than I thought since he signed him for three years.



It's what larger corporations call the cost of doing business. Even he gives him two years, the speculation is rampant that he is not the guy for the long haul.

Think about it, Epstein would have to be really stupid to hire for that job without a scenario for Plan B.

Lesson #1 for business: If you have a problem that money will solve, and you have the money, then you don't really have a problem.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:10 pm ]
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Will money win the Cubs baseball games?
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