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 Post subject: New Smoking Law
PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:05 am 
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Starting January 1st, 2014 it is illegal to smoke in a car that is transporting a child under the age of 18. The fine for breaking this new law will be $250.00

It's about time. Every time I see some ignorant jackass smoking with little kids in the car being subjected to their 2nd hand smoke I wonder how they can't know better. Hopefully these idiots will stop to avoid the fine, though it's sad they didn't do so for their children's sake.

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I'm really disappointed in you Don Tiny. I thought you might come up with a shot of a horse smoking a cigarette while driving. I'll say this for your photos are a damn sight more entertaining than anything you ever wrote on this site.

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My grandma used to smoke non-stop with me in the car as a kid. She used to do it with the windows closed. Back in the day they never thought much of the health impact. I would get bronchitis all the time. Ain't nobody got time for that.

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This should make for some interesting debate here today.

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My grandma used to smoke non-stop with me in the car as a kid. She used to do it with the windows closed. Back in the day they never thought much of the health impact. I would get bronchitis all the time. Ain't nobody got time for that.


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 Post subject: Re: New Smoking Law
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This is a step in the right direction. But it isn't nearly enough. I think Barack Obama, Rahm Emanuel, and Richie Daley should operate a school with dormitories and within two days of a child's birth said child should be handed over to these three wise men to be raised in a proper manner. The family can have the child back upon its twenty-first birthday.

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I'm really disappointed in you Don Tiny. I thought you might come up with a shot of a horse smoking a cigarette while driving. I'll say this for your photos are a damn sight more entertaining than anything you ever wrote on this site.


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I'm really disappointed in you Don Tiny. I thought you might come up with a shot of a horse smoking a cigarette while driving. I'll say this for your photos are a damn sight more entertaining than anything you ever wrote on this site.

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 Post subject: Re: New Smoking Law
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I dont like government telling me what to do in my car but this seems to be a good idea


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 Post subject: Re: New Smoking Law
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Slippery slope. Next they will outlaw smoking in your home, and then they will outlaw smoking if you have a child, and then they will just take it away for good.

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Slippery slope. Next they will outlaw smoking in your home, and then they will outlaw smoking if you have a child, and then they will just take it away for good.
Hopefully.

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 Post subject: Re: New Smoking Law
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Slippery slope. Next they will outlaw smoking in your home, and then they will outlaw smoking if you have a child, and then they will just take it away for good.

Yeah, even being a smoker, I dont find that to be that crazy.

Its pretty bad for you. This may conflict with some other opinions of mine but that's just how I see it.


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Slippery slope. Next they will outlaw smoking in your home, and then they will outlaw smoking if you have a child, and then they will just take it away for good.


They can't take it away for good. Too many of the guys making the laws own stock in tobacco companies.

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 Post subject: Re: New Smoking Law
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
Slippery slope. Next they will outlaw smoking in your home, and then they will outlaw smoking if you have a child, and then they will just take it away for good.
Hopefully.

Lets outlaw guns too. They seem pretty bad for people also.

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 Post subject: Re: New Smoking Law
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Slippery slope. Next they will outlaw smoking in your home, and then they will outlaw smoking if you have a child, and then they will just take it away for good.


Not with all of the tax revenue to be had on buying smokes but also the fines that can and will be levied at all levels of these laws.

Smoking in your own car? Fine
Smoking in your own yard? Fine
Smoking near a door? Fine

If you're going to ban smoking you are going to have to find something to replace it with.


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Douchebag wrote:
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Slippery slope. Next they will outlaw smoking in your home, and then they will outlaw smoking if you have a child, and then they will just take it away for good.
Hopefully.

Lets outlaw guns too. They seem pretty bad for people also.
I don't think you should be able to shoot a gun in a car either.

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Slippery slope. Next they will outlaw smoking in your home, and then they will outlaw smoking if you have a child, and then they will just take it away for good.

Yeah, even being a smoker, I dont find that to be that crazy.

Its pretty bad for you. This may conflict with some other opinions of mine but that's just how I see it.


But is that what life is supposed to be about? Only doing things that are good for you? I'm guessing the average kid is burning his lungs more from fossil fuel emissions than from second hand smoke. It's just another step in government putting it's thumb on the people. And that's why it's so insidious. When you say something is "for the children", people find it hard to argue.

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SomeGuy wrote:

If you're going to ban smoking you are going to have to find something to replace it with.

Sugar tax/Junk Food Tax.

Something like that is definitely coming down the pipeline in the future.

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But is that what life is supposed to be about? Only doing things that are good for you? I'm guessing the average kid is burning his lungs more from fossil fuel emissions than from second hand smoke. It's just another step in government putting it's thumb on the people. And that's why it's so insidious. When you say something is "for the children", people find it hard to argue.
That is why we are also doing a lot of things to try and limit fossil fuel emissions.

Decreasing smoking and decreasing fossil fuel emissions have been done with great success in the past 30 years. It needs to continue.

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 Post subject: Re: New Smoking Law
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But is that what life is supposed to be about? Only doing things that are good for you? I'm guessing the average kid is burning his lungs more from fossil fuel emissions than from second hand smoke. It's just another step in government putting it's thumb on the people. And that's why it's so insidious. When you say something is "for the children", people find it hard to argue.
That is why we are also doing a lot of things to try and limit fossil fuel emissions.

Decreasing smoking and decreasing fossil fuel emissions have been done with great success in the past 30 years. It needs to continue.


We can kill smoking right now, however there is the small matter of the entire economies of Virginia and North Carolina. But there are a lot of emerging markets. Maybe we can send our cigarettes to China.

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
Starting January 1st, 2014 it is illegal to smoke in a car that is transporting a child under the age of 18. The fine for breaking this new law will be $250.00

It's about time. Every time I see some ignorant jackass smoking with little kids in the car being subjected to their 2nd hand smoke I wonder how they can't know better. Hopefully these idiots will stop to avoid the fine, though it's sad they didn't do so for their children's sake.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
We can kill smoking right now, however there is the small matter of the entire economies of Virginia and North Carolina. But there are a lot of emerging markets. Maybe we can send our cigarettes to China.
They can start marketing tobacco brownies and tobacco peanut butter cups.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
Slippery slope. Next they will outlaw smoking in your home, and then they will outlaw smoking if you have a child, and then they will just take it away for good.

Yeah, even being a smoker, I dont find that to be that crazy.

Its pretty bad for you. This may conflict with some other opinions of mine but that's just how I see it.


But is that what life is supposed to be about? Only doing things that are good for you? I'm guessing the average kid is burning his lungs more from fossil fuel emissions than from second hand smoke. It's just another step in government putting it's thumb on the people. And that's why it's so insidious. When you say something is "for the children", people find it hard to argue.

Its just with smoking for me.

The amount of death and disease linked to it is staggering. Its just so fucking stupid. Maybe Im just making this my own personal thing.

I definitely think the govt should stay out of my car, my house etc


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If you're going to ban smoking you are going to have to find something to replace it with.

Sugar tax/Junk Food Tax.

Something like that is definitely coming down the pipeline in the future.




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Other than an occasional cigar I'm not a smoker so I have no issue with this. Smoking in my house or car has been banned since I had a house or a car.

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It's annoying as hell when you are at a stoplight and the guy or girl next to you is not only smoking in their car but holding it outside the window so it's coming in your car as much as their car.

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It's annoying as hell when you are at a stoplight and the guy or girl next to you is not only smoking in their car but holding it outside the window so it's coming in your car as much as their car.


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It's annoying as hell when you are at a stoplight and the guy or girl next to you is not only smoking in their car but holding it outside the window so it's coming in your car as much as their car.

Just wanting to share their death with you, I don't see much of a problem with that.

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Nas wrote:
Other than an occasional cigar I'm not a smoker so I have no issue with this. Smoking in my house or car has been banned since I had a house or a car.


On a personal level, I don't care. I've never smoked a cigarette in my entire life. I don't see the point of smoking. It killed both my parents. But if I could communicate with my mom from the grave, I'm 100% sure she would say that she would not give back one single cigarette. I just see this as more government control of the people. Is smoking in a car with a kid bad for the kid? Sure. A lot of things are bad for kids. I wouldn't let my ten-year-old ride a mini-bike but a lot of people do. That's their fucking business.

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