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and that's essentially what NIU is being "dinged" on - losing to Florida State last year, coaches are voting them down. They couldn't vote them out last year, so they are over-correcting this year.

spanky wrote:

and that's essentially what NIU is being "dinged" on - losing to Florida State last year, coaches are voting them down. They couldn't vote them out last year, so they are over-correcting this year.

Not really -- you played Iowa and beat them by 3. That's a good win. After that, not so much. Yes Purdue is a BigTen team, but that's not worth points. You will finish the year undefeated without playing anyone because you are in the MAC. You should get a decent bowl game. What are you legitimately hoping for?

Yes Purdue is a BigTen team, but that's not worth points. You will finish the year undefeated without playing anyone because you are in the MAC. You should get a decent bowl game. What are you legitimately hoping for?

newper wrote:

spanky wrote:

and that's essentially what NIU is being "dinged" on - losing to Florida State last year, coaches are voting them down. They couldn't vote them out last year, so they are over-correcting this year.

Illini dont go undefeated in the AMC

I look forward to the arguments for the next month about which school should get to play in an exhibition game in January.

newper wrote:

spanky wrote:

and that's essentially what NIU is being "dinged" on - losing to Florida State last year, coaches are voting them down. They couldn't vote them out last year, so they are over-correcting this year.

Illini dont go undefeated in the AMC

Douchebag wrote:

I look forward to the arguments for the next month about which school should get to play in an exhibition game in January.

Are you enjoying the exhibition games the Bulls are playing for the next 4 months?

Bowl system is real bad. And despite what you think, anyone would chose being the 16 seed in a national tournament over playing an exhibition at the Rose bowl if given the choice.

bigfan wrote:

newper wrote:

spanky wrote:

and that's essentially what NIU is being "dinged" on - losing to Florida State last year, coaches are voting them down. They couldn't vote them out last year, so they are over-correcting this year.

Illini dont go undefeated in the AMC

The Illini doesn't go undefeated in the Catholic League.

Douchebag wrote:

I look forward to the arguments for the next month about which school should get to play in an exhibition game in January.

Are you enjoying the exhibition games the Bulls are playing for the next 4 months?

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Douchebag wrote:

I look forward to the arguments for the next month about which school should get to play in an exhibition game in January.

Are you enjoying the exhibition games the Bulls are playing for the next 4 months?

Preseason NBA games are more meaningful than 95% of bowl games.

bigfan wrote:

newper wrote:

spanky wrote:

and that's essentially what NIU is being "dinged" on - losing to Florida State last year, coaches are voting them down. They couldn't vote them out last year, so they are over-correcting this year.

Illini dont go undefeated in the AMC

The Illini doesn't go undefeated in the Catholic League.

They do stomp the living shit out of Fenwick, however.

Honestly, I don't think the mid-majors should even be allowed to play against the big conferences. They should be two separate divisions. It's just that we go through this every year when some scrappy upstart tries to sit at the big kids' table and everyone gets so fucking indignant. How is that even fun for anyone? We should just be able to say NIU is the best football program in the country among programs that aren't nauseatingly huge business concerns, and then that's that. Besides, all going to the Orange Bowl really did for the university was fuck up their finances because of all the tickets they were guaranteed to buy.

Good. That's what's best for everyone. Northern Illinois isn't really playing the same game as Iowa, which I get makes it fun when they win, but it's like comparing apples and genetically engineered super-apples.

Curious Hair wrote:

They'll still play in the regular season, for now.

Then, we can finally start paying players $2,000 or $3,000 a month and a new division will be created. They still may end up playing a game in September but they really will be two different entities.

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Douchebag wrote:

I look forward to the arguments for the next month about which school should get to play in an exhibition game in January.

Are you enjoying the exhibition games the Bulls are playing for the next 4 months?

Preseason NBA games are more meaningful than 95% of NHL games.

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Douchebag wrote:

I look forward to the arguments for the next month about which school should get to play in an exhibition game in January.

Are you enjoying the exhibition games the Bulls are playing for the next 4 months?

Preseason NBA games are more meaningful than 95% of bowl games.

Douchebag wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Douchebag wrote:

I look forward to the arguments for the next month about which school should get to play in an exhibition game in January.

Are you enjoying the exhibition games the Bulls are playing for the next 4 months?

Preseason NBA games are more meaningful than 95% of bowl games.

No they aren't. You know this to be true.

conns7901 wrote:

Bowl system is real bad. And despite what you think, anyone would chose being the 16 seed in a national tournament over playing an exhibition at the Rose bowl if given the choice.

I don't know how many years you have continued to misstate my position on this. Is it your goal simply to attempt to annoy me?

Author:	spanky [ Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:49 pm ]
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Ok, it's about that time for the rest of you casual sports fans to pay attention NIU football again! I guess we still need Fresno St to lose for us to get to a big bowl game under the rules that the Big 10 set up ( ), but I gotta be honest, I don't know why. Fresno has not been more impressive this year. And they definitely weren't more impressive in the bowl season last year (I am BEGGING Irish Boy's know-it-all ass to respond on that) - and that's essentially what NIU is being "dinged" on - losing to Florida State last year, coaches are voting them down. They couldn't vote them out last year, so they are over-correcting this year. Fresno lost by 40+ to SMU last year in a bowl game. Right.

Author:	newper [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:23 am ]
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spanky wrote: and that's essentially what NIU is being "dinged" on - losing to Florida State last year, coaches are voting them down. They couldn't vote them out last year, so they are over-correcting this year. Not really -- you played Iowa and beat them by 3. That's a good win. After that, not so much. Yes Purdue is a BigTen team, but that's not worth points. You will finish the year undefeated without playing anyone because you are in the MAC. You should get a decent bowl game. What are you legitimately hoping for?

Author:	Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:24 am ]
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Wow. Burn.

Author:	bigfan [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:02 am ]
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newper wrote: spanky wrote: and that's essentially what NIU is being "dinged" on - losing to Florida State last year, coaches are voting them down. They couldn't vote them out last year, so they are over-correcting this year. Not really -- you played Iowa and beat them by 3. That's a good win. After that, not so much. Yes Purdue is a BigTen team, but that's not worth points. You will finish the year undefeated without playing anyone because you are in the MAC. You should get a decent bowl game. What are you legitimately hoping for? Illini dont go undefeated in the AMC

Author:	W_Z [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:32 am ]
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newper wrote: Yes Purdue is a BigTen team, but that's not worth points. You will finish the year undefeated without playing anyone because you are in the MAC. You should get a decent bowl game. What are you legitimately hoping for? I award you no points. And may God have mercy on your soul.

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Author:	JORR [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:40 am ]
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bigfan wrote: newper wrote: spanky wrote: and that's essentially what NIU is being "dinged" on - losing to Florida State last year, coaches are voting them down. They couldn't vote them out last year, so they are over-correcting this year. Not really -- you played Iowa and beat them by 3. That's a good win. After that, not so much. Yes Purdue is a BigTen team, but that's not worth points. You will finish the year undefeated without playing anyone because you are in the MAC. You should get a decent bowl game. What are you legitimately hoping for? Illini dont go undefeated in the AMC No, but they're better than .500, they beat Toledo and Ball State a lot of the time, and they might beat NIU on a given day. And in a real conference, the Illini suck.

Author:	redskingreg [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:37 am ]
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No thanks.

Author:	Brick [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:38 am ]
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spanky actually has a point here. It's easy to hate on NIU's schedule and the cupcakes they scheduled out of conference but Fresno seems to be getting more credit than deserved for beating Boise State because of the Boise State name rather than the actual strength of the team. Really though, NIU should be mad at the pathetic job most of the MAC is doing now. They are the best MAC team probably ever. However, the conference as a whole is garbage and it hurts NIU to really have no way of showing how good they are.

Author:	Douchebag [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:45 am ]
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I look forward to the arguments for the next month about which school should get to play in an exhibition game in January.

Author:	newper [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:47 am ]
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Thankfully we don't have the four team tournament yet or we'd have to sit through 8 months of "How could you not let an undefeated team in!?!?" talk. From a very small amount of people.

Author:	Brick [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:47 am ]
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Douchebag wrote: I look forward to the arguments for the next month about which school should get to play in an exhibition game in January. Are you enjoying the exhibition games the Bulls are playing for the next 4 months?

Author:	Seacrest [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:48 am ]
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bigfan wrote: newper wrote: spanky wrote: and that's essentially what NIU is being "dinged" on - losing to Florida State last year, coaches are voting them down. They couldn't vote them out last year, so they are over-correcting this year. Not really -- you played Iowa and beat them by 3. That's a good win. After that, not so much. Yes Purdue is a BigTen team, but that's not worth points. You will finish the year undefeated without playing anyone because you are in the MAC. You should get a decent bowl game. What are you legitimately hoping for? Illini dont go undefeated in the AMC The Illini doesn't go undefeated in the Catholic League.

Author:	conns7901 [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:57 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: Douchebag wrote: I look forward to the arguments for the next month about which school should get to play in an exhibition game in January. Are you enjoying the exhibition games the Bulls are playing for the next 4 months? Bowl system is real bad. And despite what you think, anyone would chose being the 16 seed in a national tournament over playing an exhibition at the Rose bowl if given the choice.

Author:	Brick [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:59 am ]
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conns7901 wrote: Bowl system is real bad. And despite what you think, anyone would chose being the 16 seed in a national tournament over playing an exhibition at the Rose bowl if given the choice. I don't know how many years you have continued to misstate my position on this. Is it your goal simply to attempt to annoy me?

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Author:	JORR [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:07 am ]
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Seacrest wrote: bigfan wrote: newper wrote: spanky wrote: and that's essentially what NIU is being "dinged" on - losing to Florida State last year, coaches are voting them down. They couldn't vote them out last year, so they are over-correcting this year. Not really -- you played Iowa and beat them by 3. That's a good win. After that, not so much. Yes Purdue is a BigTen team, but that's not worth points. You will finish the year undefeated without playing anyone because you are in the MAC. You should get a decent bowl game. What are you legitimately hoping for? Illini dont go undefeated in the AMC The Illini doesn't go undefeated in the Catholic League. They do stomp the living shit out of Fenwick, however.

Author:	Douchebag [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:10 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: Douchebag wrote: I look forward to the arguments for the next month about which school should get to play in an exhibition game in January. Are you enjoying the exhibition games the Bulls are playing for the next 4 months? Preseason NBA games are more meaningful than 95% of bowl games.

Author:	Brick [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:11 am ]
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Douchebag wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: Douchebag wrote: I look forward to the arguments for the next month about which school should get to play in an exhibition game in January. Are you enjoying the exhibition games the Bulls are playing for the next 4 months? Preseason NBA games are more meaningful than 95% of bowl games. No.

Author:	Seacrest [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:12 am ]
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Seacrest wrote: bigfan wrote: newper wrote: spanky wrote: and that's essentially what NIU is being "dinged" on - losing to Florida State last year, coaches are voting them down. They couldn't vote them out last year, so they are over-correcting this year. Not really -- you played Iowa and beat them by 3. That's a good win. After that, not so much. Yes Purdue is a BigTen team, but that's not worth points. You will finish the year undefeated without playing anyone because you are in the MAC. You should get a decent bowl game. What are you legitimately hoping for? Illini dont go undefeated in the AMC The Illini doesn't go undefeated in the Catholic League. Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: They do stomp the living shit out of Fenwick, however. True. St Ignatius and Gordon Tech beat them for sure though.

Author:	Curious Hair [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:13 am ]
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Honestly, I don't think the mid-majors should even be allowed to play against the big conferences. They should be two separate divisions. It's just that we go through this every year when some scrappy upstart tries to sit at the big kids' table and everyone gets so fucking indignant. How is that even fun for anyone? We should just be able to say NIU is the best football program in the country among programs that aren't nauseatingly huge business concerns, and then that's that. Besides, all going to the Orange Bowl really did for the university was fuck up their finances because of all the tickets they were guaranteed to buy.

Author:	Brick [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:14 am ]
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Curious Hair wrote: Honestly, I don't think the mid-majors should even be allowed to play against the big conferences. They should be two separate divisions. It's just that we go through this every year when some scrappy upstart tries to sit at the big kids' table and everyone gets so fucking indignant. How is that even fun for anyone? We should just be able to say NIU is the best football program in the country among programs that aren't nauseatingly huge business concerns, and then that's that. Besides, all going to the Orange Bowl really did for the university was fuck up their finances because of all the tickets they were guaranteed to buy. That is basically happening next year.

Author:	Curious Hair [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:18 am ]
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Good. That's what's best for everyone. Northern Illinois isn't really playing the same game as Iowa, which I get makes it fun when they win, but it's like comparing apples and genetically engineered super-apples.

Author:	Brick [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:21 am ]
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Curious Hair wrote: Good. That's what's best for everyone. Northern Illinois isn't really playing the same game as Iowa, which I get makes it fun when they win, but it's like comparing apples and genetically engineered super-apples. They'll still play in the regular season, for now. Then, we can finally start paying players $2,000 or $3,000 a month and a new division will be created. They still may end up playing a game in September but they really will be two different entities.

Author:	312player [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:25 am ]
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Thank you huskies ! Covered again this week..3-0 for me on the year..the kicker sucks tho.

Author:	JORR [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:29 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: Curious Hair wrote: Good. That's what's best for everyone. Northern Illinois isn't really playing the same game as Iowa, which I get makes it fun when they win, but it's like comparing apples and genetically engineered super-apples. They'll still play in the regular season, for now. Then, we can finally start paying players $2,000 or $3,000 a month and a new division will be created. They still may end up playing a game in September but they really will be two different entities. Yeah, that would be fine. A friend of mine's kid plays club level rugby at Wisconsin-Whitewater. At that level they are a superpower. The guys playing actual Division 1 rugby look just like D-1 football players. A match between the two would be absurd. And it isn't always the schools you think that play at the higher level. For example, I think Whitewater regularly beats Michigan. But the thing about the club level is that there isn't really much oversight. Sometimes teams show up with guys that don't even attend the school. But my buddy was telling me that one team kept using these ringers so the other clubs voted and told them they could go play with the big guys.

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:45 am ]
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Douchebag wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: Douchebag wrote: I look forward to the arguments for the next month about which school should get to play in an exhibition game in January. Are you enjoying the exhibition games the Bulls are playing for the next 4 months? Preseason NBA games are more meaningful than 95% of NHL games. Fixed.

Author:	Scorehead [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:51 am ]
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Douchebag wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: Douchebag wrote: I look forward to the arguments for the next month about which school should get to play in an exhibition game in January. Are you enjoying the exhibition games the Bulls are playing for the next 4 months? Preseason NBA games are more meaningful than 95% of bowl games. No they aren't. You know this to be true.

Author:	Douchebag [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:55 am ]
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Scorehead wrote: Douchebag wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: Douchebag wrote: I look forward to the arguments for the next month about which school should get to play in an exhibition game in January. Are you enjoying the exhibition games the Bulls are playing for the next 4 months? Preseason NBA games are more meaningful than 95% of bowl games. No they aren't. You know this to be true. Yeah, I know I'm exaggerating. Preaseason NBA games are just as meaningful as 95% of bowl games. My bad.

Author:	spanky [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:29 am ]
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Curious Hair wrote: Honestly, I don't think the mid-majors should even be allowed to play against the big conferences. They should be two separate divisions. It's just that we go through this every year when some scrappy upstart tries to sit at the big kids' table and everyone gets so fucking indignant. How is that even fun for anyone? We should just be able to say NIU is the best football program in the country among programs that aren't nauseatingly huge business concerns, and then that's that. Besides, all going to the Orange Bowl really did for the university was fuck up their finances because of all the tickets they were guaranteed to buy. NIU didn't lose a penny on the orange bowl trip.

Author:	City of Fools [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:35 am ]
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why are all these people saying NIU lost money? They didn't. Various donors picked up some of the tag as did the conference.

Author:	conns7901 [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:20 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: conns7901 wrote: Bowl system is real bad. And despite what you think, anyone would chose being the 16 seed in a national tournament over playing an exhibition at the Rose bowl if given the choice. I don't know how many years you have continued to misstate my position on this. Is it your goal simply to attempt to annoy me? I have done nothing of the sort. You said you would rather see Purdue in the Rose bowl the 16th seed in a playoff. Then after realizing no one would be left to play Purdue since everyone else who is good would want to be in a playoff, you sort of changed your stance. Like when you realized you couldn't play defense in golf and then tried to change the argument to their is more strategy involved golf than track which was not the argument.