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So I bought a new Dryer at Sears Home Appliance in McHenry on Saturday.
Floor model, scratch and dent, but supposedly checked out and all good. Retails for about $1500, but as a floor model/scratch and dent I got it for just over $600.
Got it home, installed it, and everything but the gas valve worked. Naturally, this is a problem as you really should have heat to dry your clothes. So, following protocol, I called service, and they had a guy available today. Nice, today is my off day!
So he diagnoses a bad motherboard. Not sending 24v to the gas valve.
Shit.
Brought it back today, but they didn't have a like model.
They offered to get me a comparable model and eat the cost difference. I settled on a similar Kenmore. But it was $811.00.
They comped the difference.

Nice reaction to a bad situation. Needless to say I was quite pleased. It was a pain installing one and having to bring it back and install a new one but for the difference in price and features not bad, not bad at all.

I would recommend them if you need to buy a new appliance!

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I'll second that. We have bought all of our appliances from the Sears Outlet store in Naperville on rt 59, & they have been great. We bought a $3000 refrigerator for $1200 because it had a dent on the side. Great service.

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Avoid Kenmore grills though. Don't know why I made that mistake.

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Are appliance purchases the least exciting thing you could possibly ever purchase?

**As a Good. As a Service, I vouch for kidney stone treatment being the least exciting. Or most exciting, if you're a masochist.

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Are appliance purchases the least exciting thing you could possibly ever purchase?

**As a Good. As a Service, I vouch for kidney stone treatment being the least exciting. Or most exciting, if you're a masochist.

Yes, for me. DW was pretty excited. She killed the shit out of the last dryer I bought. Course it gave us nearly 10 years and I think I spent under $400 on it. This one is pretty sweet. I took it apart already to see how easy it would be to repair and it's much, much nicer than the last one. Nice idle pulley instead of the shitty plastic/felt balancer that the last one had. So it's going to be easier to maintain. I guess it was kind of exciting.

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i would actually go crazy to get my own washer dryer. i would love it. same thing with a badass oven or fridge. whenever i become a homeowner i hope to have enough saved up so i can wreck home depot like a kid in a candy store.


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i would actually go crazy to get my own washer dryer. i would love it. same thing with a badass oven or fridge. whenever i become a homeowner i hope to have enough saved up so i can wreck home depot like a kid in a candy store.

Fuck that, go get a scratch and dent. Shit I'll help you get it in my truck for 1/2 the cost of delivery/install and you'll save $1000 overall. Who give a fuck if a washer/dryer is dented? I can't believe that shit gets discounted like it does.

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Sears is normally pretty awesome. That said, don't be surprised when they move to becoming a purely on-line retailer and close all their BRick and Mortar.

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 Post subject: Re: Sears Home Appliance
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:20 pm 
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i would actually go crazy to get my own washer dryer. i would love it. same thing with a badass oven or fridge. whenever i become a homeowner i hope to have enough saved up so i can wreck home depot like a kid in a candy store.

Fuck that, go get a scratch and dent. Shit I'll help you get it in my truck for 1/2 the cost of delivery/install and you'll save $1000 overall. Who give a fuck if a washer/dryer is dented? I can't believe that shit gets discounted like it does.

Or the floor models. Most of them have never even been turned on. Just plugged in so the lights work.


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i would actually go crazy to get my own washer dryer. i would love it. same thing with a badass oven or fridge. whenever i become a homeowner i hope to have enough saved up so i can wreck home depot like a kid in a candy store.

Fuck that, go get a scratch and dent. Shit I'll help you get it in my truck for 1/2 the cost of delivery/install and you'll save $1000 overall. Who give a fuck if a washer/dryer is dented? I can't believe that shit gets discounted like it does.


Agreed. That's why ABT was so popular for so long. Their reps would kick the dryer once and say, "hey, its dented. $400 off."

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Avoid Kenmore grills though. Don't know why I made that mistake.

I bought a Charbroil charcoal grill and I couldn't be less happy. I should have just bought the damn Weber. I'll be getting a Weber 22in. Kettle as soon as I have some time.

That being said if anyone wants a free 22in Charbroil charcoal grill it's yours.

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IMU....your day is coming. This will all hit home.

When we bought our Samsung Front loaders, I have to say we were pretty damn excited.

I wish we had one of those Sears outlets down here.

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i would actually go crazy to get my own washer dryer. i would love it. same thing with a badass oven or fridge. whenever i become a homeowner i hope to have enough saved up so i can wreck home depot like a kid in a candy store.

Fuck that, go get a scratch and dent. Shit I'll help you get it in my truck for 1/2 the cost of delivery/install and you'll save $1000 overall. Who give a fuck if a washer/dryer is dented? I can't believe that shit gets discounted like it does.

Or the floor models. Most of them have never even been turned on. Just plugged in so the lights work.

Well, I get giving a few fucks on a fridge. You look at it all day, your company does too, so it's nice if it looks nice you know? But a washer/dryer? Very few fucks to give.

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Avoid Kenmore grills though. Don't know why I made that mistake.

I bought a Charbroil charcoal grill and I couldn't be less happy. I should have just bought the damn Weber. I'll be getting a Weber 22in. Kettle as soon as I have some time.

That being said if anyone wants a free 22in Charbroil charcoal grill it's yours.
Agreed. I've used about 10 different gas grills in my life and the Weber is so much better than any of them it's amazing.

Now, some were 20 year old cheap ones with holes in the bottom but still.

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Are appliance purchases the least exciting thing you could possibly ever purchase?

**As a Good. As a Service, I vouch for kidney stone treatment being the least exciting. Or most exciting, if you're a masochist.


No. Buying a new roof is the least exciting & least rewarding. Spent $12K for a new one 3 years ago. You cant enjoy a new roof.
I suppose a new furnace is close. Darko, I may have you quote me a new one in a couple of years as mine is 22 years old.

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Are appliance purchases the least exciting thing you could possibly ever purchase?

**As a Good. As a Service, I vouch for kidney stone treatment being the least exciting. Or most exciting, if you're a masochist.


No. Buying a new roof is the least exciting & least rewarding. Spent $12K for a new one 3 years ago. You cant enjoy a new roof.
I suppose a new furnace is close. Darko, I may have you quote me a new one in a couple of years as mine is 22 years old.

Give me the BTU's and the style you want (high efficiency or standard) and I'll get you worked out.
Do you mind having PVC pipes sticking out of your house?
If you want to go with a standard 80%er over a high efficiency, I'd move on that soon. Supposedly the gubment is banning them but they've moved the date back a time or two, but it is coming.

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Oh and I was really excited when I put in my new furnace. Shit, my gas bills ended up being less than half, and that's even with this wacky polar vortex we had...

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immessedup17 wrote:
Are appliance purchases the least exciting thing you could possibly ever purchase?

**As a Good. As a Service, I vouch for kidney stone treatment being the least exciting. Or most exciting, if you're a masochist.


No. Buying a new roof is the least exciting & least rewarding. Spent $12K for a new one 3 years ago. You cant enjoy a new roof.
I suppose a new furnace is close. Darko, I may have you quote me a new one in a couple of years as mine is 22 years old.

Give me the BTU's and the style you want (high efficiency or standard) and I'll get you worked out.
Do you mind having PVC pipes sticking out of your house?
If you want to go with a standard 80%er over a high efficiency, I'd move on that soon. Supposedly the gubment is banning them but they've moved the date back a time or two, but it is coming.


I've got a Trane XL90 from 1992 with a large PVC vent sticking out the side of the house. Is there no vent with the high efficiency unit? Why would I want a standard rather than a high efficiency unit?
My house has one furnace & A/C unit...but it should have been built with 2, one for each floor, each with its own thermostat.

2 story, 3500 square feet, with another 1700 in the finished basement. I was quoted about $10K on a new Trane high efficiency. I have a manually adjustable summer/winter baffle in the duct system, & I was told that because of this, I could install a unit which will act like 2 units with a thermostat on each floor, by independently heating/cooling the first & second floors. What do you think?

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I'll second that. We have bought all of our appliances from the Sears Outlet store in Naperville on rt 59, & they have been great. We bought a $3000 refrigerator for $1200 because it had a dent on the side. Great service.


There is some good shit in that store.

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I've got a Trane XL90 from 1992 with a large PVC vent sticking out the side of the house. Is there no vent with the high efficiency unit? Why would I want a standard rather than a high efficiency unit?
My house has one furnace & A/C unit...but it should have been built with 2, one for each floor, each with its own thermostat.

2 story, 3500 square feet, with another 1700 in the finished basement. I was quoted about $10K on a new Trane high efficiency. I have a manually adjustable summer/winter baffle in the duct system, & I was told that because of this, I could install a unit which will act like 2 units with a thermostat on each floor, by independently heating/cooling the first & second floors. What do you think?

No, stick with the 90%. I was assuming (incorrectly) that a 22 year old unit was most likely a standard. Sorry. But it's the most common.

Is it 120,000 or 150,000 BTU? Big.

Yeah, maybe a two stage and get two stats with a zone board and do the basement and 1st fl on one zone and the 2nd floor on another zone. You'd trade out the manual damper for an automatic one. It's not cheap but zoning will be nice. We'll need to put in a barometric bypass so you don't get a lot of damper noise (whistling) when one is open and one is closed.

It's do-able. Setting up for two units when the ductwork is designed for one is generally cost prohibitive.

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Avoid Kenmore grills though. Don't know why I made that mistake.

I bought a Charbroil charcoal grill and I couldn't be less happy. I should have just bought the damn Weber. I'll be getting a Weber 22in. Kettle as soon as I have some time.

That being said if anyone wants a free 22in Charbroil charcoal grill it's yours.


I would go with the 29-inch kettle. The 22.5 inch model really is too small in many instances.

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There used to be a Sears Outlet in Schaumburg on Golf and Meacham, but it wasn't open for very long. About three or four years ago I bought a new washer and dryer (the ones that were there when I bought my place sucked, and I swear there was a little guy in a scuba suit living in my washer who would tie the arms of my shirts and the legs of my pants into knots) and went there hoping to find a good deal as I had heard people had good luck at their other stores. You probably have to hit them at the right time, and when I happened to be looking they didn't have a good selection. I don't think that store was open for much more than a year.

I wound up getting LGs from ABT and have been very happy with them. I can wash and dry one load in about the same time it took to just wash or dry one load in the old machines.


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Soon. 8 consecutive quarters of $100 million+ losses. $400 million down the shitter in the most recent quarter.

They are picking up the pace of selling off assets and closing stores. Sears also owns K-Mart, which is similarly fucked.

Sears did try to move to an online/same day or quick delivery model, using its shuttered stores as mini-warehouses. But the store real estate tends to be too valuable for retail to use as warehouse space.

So now it's sell off the parts and use the cash from those sales to stay afloat; with the dim hope that somehow a moribund pair of brands--K-Mart and Sears--will catch internet lightning in a bottle and become profitable as online businesses.

Interesting profile of Eddie Lampert, the hedge fund dude who now runs Sears on the principles of Ayn Rand:

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/20 ... e-troubles


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I've got a Trane XL90 from 1992 with a large PVC vent sticking out the side of the house. Is there no vent with the high efficiency unit? Why would I want a standard rather than a high efficiency unit?
My house has one furnace & A/C unit...but it should have been built with 2, one for each floor, each with its own thermostat.

2 story, 3500 square feet, with another 1700 in the finished basement. I was quoted about $10K on a new Trane high efficiency. I have a manually adjustable summer/winter baffle in the duct system, & I was told that because of this, I could install a unit which will act like 2 units with a thermostat on each floor, by independently heating/cooling the first & second floors. What do you think?

No, stick with the 90%. I was assuming (incorrectly) that a 22 year old unit was most likely a standard. Sorry. But it's the most common.

Is it 120,000 or 150,000 BTU? Big.

Yeah, maybe a two stage and get two stats with a zone board and do the basement and 1st fl on one zone and the 2nd floor on another zone. You'd trade out the manual damper for an automatic one. It's not cheap but zoning will be nice. We'll need to put in a barometric bypass so you don't get a lot of damper noise (whistling) when one is open and one is closed.

It's do-able. Setting up for two units when the ductwork is designed for one is generally cost prohibitive.



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