Victory for privacy... for once.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... -searches/

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Obviously it's terrific that they didn't go the other way on this.

It seems to me, though, that it's only a matter of time until law enforcement comes up with some workaround to it ... generally under the "public safety" moniker ... an exception that has all but swallowed up the rule of the 4th Amendment it seems.

It's good to get some of the veneer back up on the wall, so to speak, but until actualy remediation work begins, rather than temporary mititgation, the continued and almost entirely unnecessary militirization of law enforcement will trivialize important reclamations such as this one.

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Agree but I thought it was nice that it was also unanimous. "Get a warrant".

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Supreme court guys just flowing with gods words today

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The Hobby Lobby decision is disappointing.

I guess the religious rights of a corporation is more important than the religious rights of an individual worker.

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What if healthcare, in general, was against Hobby Lobby's religion?

That is a little murky for me.

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It leads to all sorts of seemingly off the wall questions.

Can Hobby Lobby start denying healthcare to unmarried pregnant women?

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Corporations are very clearly 'people' ... they have clear rights just like these promiscuous women ... should we conveniently ignore the obviously more intelligent wealth-makers' clear decision to be meet and right in the eyes of the Lord? Thank God for places like Hobby Lobby to be able to proselytize to the ignorant and lustful people of this damnable nation. Hobby Lobby - stop screwing, start sewing.

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It's stuff like this you can point to during election years when people try telling you there is no difference between voting for an R and voting for a D.

What religious rights do their workers lose out on here?

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Thought they basically did with the caveat of emergencies or help prevent other crimes.

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There were two possible outcomes here. Either employees had the right to access to certain types of healthcare based on their own religious beliefs and not the corporation's religious beliefs or the corporation was found to have the right to deny healthcare based on the corporation's religious beliefs.

Either way, someone(or something) was going to lose a religious right. The answer here was the worker who now has their healthcare effected based on the religious beliefs of a corporation.

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So your understanding is that the employees of Hobby Lobby are no longer afforded the right to buy birth control?

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After I thought some more on this hasn't the court been consistent in recent times that corporations have the same rights a people. The biggest ruling in this area was with political spending rights if I have it right. Therefore, they held these rare closely held corps have their right. I this the part about the least restrictive thing held that the corp does not disallow people from getting contraceptives just that they do not pay. It would be way different if they forbid employees from any aspect of heath care they objected to.

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No. This case was about their insurance being forced to cover it. They no longer have the right to have it covered by insurance. Hobby Lobby was given the right to deny based on religious reasons. It's only logical that this means that the hypothetical worker was then denied the right to have it paid for because of religious reasons.

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Cops can get a warrant from their squad car nowadays. There might even be an app for that.

As long as your phone is password protected, the only way to get beyond the password is either for you to give it to them (not required, 5th amendment) or to take it back to the station and get a warrant to crack the security on the device as well as track down an IT person to do it. That was true even before this Supreme Court ruling.

Besides a password, not a bad idea to encrypt your phone's data as well.

Android's built-in encryption works well:

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/enc ... -security/

Corporations are people.

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But their access to birth control is not denied.

So are you saying that a corporation is constitutionally bound to pay for an employees birth control?

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Yes, but this is literally choosing the rights of a corporation over the rights of an individual.
This does not matter though. Employees still have rights and they don't lose them because another alternative exists.

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No offense, that's an absurd trollish question. A corporation is constitutionally prohibited from denying birth control on religious grounds in a society where the majority of health care is administered through employer-sponsored health plans. Or at least it was. Any rational person who happens not to be some kind of religious zealot, and who celebrates this decision for any other reason than cheering for their "team" has absolute shit for brains. The decision is a total and complete embarrassment to anyone with an IQ over 85.

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I didn't say it was.
Based on the law it was. That changed though with the ruling.

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Who was denied birth control by today's ruling?

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Look I do not care about birth control but Rick I do not get your thought. Based on the law prior to the ruling the corp was legally bound to provide birth control not constitutionally. What the court said was they are not obligated based on their take on it. Again, if the corp forbid them to get/use birth control then you would be right.

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No, it changed because what the law required was found to never have been constitutional.

So, why is the law not paying for my medication?

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So they had the right, and then they lost it. You have plenty of rights that aren't specifically laid out in the Constitution. For instance, you have the right not to be sexually harassed at work too. You won't find that in the Constitution.
There is no right or wrong. It is factual. Obamacare granted them a right, and the courts took that right away today to protect the religious freedoms of a corporation. This isn't an opinion. It is simply what happened.

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Ok I guess I viewed it as Obamacare giving them a benefit not a right.

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