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Hawk Harrelson: Baseball's Ultimate Homer Still Rules on the South Side
Loved by White Sox fans, and despised by everyone else, the 73-year-old announcer won't change his ways. And you can put it on the board

BY DAN HYMAN April 22, 2015

The Hawk in his nest: Ken Harrelson at U.S. Cellular Field in Chicago. Joshua Lott/NYTimes/Redux
The Hawk is beaming. After fist-bumping a cafeteria cashier, the announcer glides into his broadcast booth at U.S. Cellular Field. It's early April, and Ken "Hawk" Harrelson has never felt more positive about the prospects for his beloved White Sox. "We're as good as anyone in the league!" he says.

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A few years ago, while calling a game at the Texas Rangers' Ballpark in Arlington, Hawk wasn't quite so cheery. In fact, he was straight-up pissed. And not in the way the longtime White Sox play-by-play man is prone to be when, say, his South Siders make an error or an umpire blows a call. No, this time, after watching Sox catcher A.J. Pierzynski get beaned twice by the Rangers' Vicente Padilla, Harrelson had seen all he could handle.

"I knew none of our guys were gonna do anything about it," Hawk recalls, the grease of his distinct South Carolina twang practically dripping onto the microphone. "So after the game I went to their clubhouse and waited for this cocksucker to come out. And one of the Texas players came out and I said, 'When's [the pitcher] coming out?' He looks at me and says, 'Want me to check Hawk?' I said, 'Yah.'

"He went back in and he said, 'He's not coming out,'" Hawk laughs, and you just know the 73-year-old wishes he'd had an opportunity to coldcock that young gun. "That's the way I am. If I ever lose that, then I'm going to retire."

Yes, the prospect of a baseball announcer challenging a player 50 years his junior to a fight is entirely absurd. But not when you're talking about Hawk: For more than 30 seasons (give or take), the former Red Sox slugger with an outsize beak and equally large persona has been kicking up dust from his perch in the broadcast booth, raising a racket on behalf of the Pale Hose, delighting their fans with his unwavering support – while simultaneously driving his outspoken detractors insane with his blatant homerism, outdated catchphrases ("Duck Snort," "Can of Corn") and now-legendary rants.

He's won five Emmys, received the Ring Lardner Award for Excellence in Sports Journalism and currently calls games from the "Hawk Harrelson Broadcast Level" at U.S. Cellular. But ask Hawk – sitting here on Opening Day weekend, his white vest wrapped snugly over a pink-collared shirt, cream Izod loafers on his feet and 2005 World Series ring on his finger – why he can't calm down, or perhaps play a few more rounds at his second home on the 17th tee at Bay Hill (where he lives in the offseason with his wife of 41 years, Aris), and you start to understand why he so often sulks the entirety of his 100-mile drive back to his Indiana home after the Sox get screwed.

"When a fan sees a call is blown, or they see a bad decision by an umpire, they can't do anything except scream and yell in their house," he says. "I want to be venting with them. Because I'm pissed just like they are. For me to get up here and try and cover it up is an insult to the fans. When I listen to an announcer trying to cover something up, I get upset. Because it's bullshit."

Those who love Hawk appreciate his candor, his unbridled passion for the team and his no-nonsense approach to broadcasting. "I don't think Hawk's style is coming around again. It's unique to him," broadcast partner Steve Stone says. "You can't confuse him with anybody. And I think that's good. Obviously when the team is struggling, he's not the happiest man in the ballpark. In fact, he could be the least happy man in the ballpark."

But his critics – and there are many – find his slow drawl infuriating, his extreme homerism grating and his refutation of modern advances in analysis, most notably Sabermetrics, just plain foolish. "X's and O's in baseball don't mean a damn thing," Hawk says when pressed on the latter topic. "We've got fans in the stands and watching at home who can actually run a baseball game as well as 85-90 percent of the managers."

Hawk has run afoul of Major League Baseball, too, most notably in 2012, when he earned a reprimand from Bud Selig for his verbal tirade against umpire Mark Wegner ("Here's an umpire in the American League that knows nothing about the game of baseball!" he said on the air.) Websites like Heave the Hawk have been pushing for Harrelson's removal for years now. And while his contract comes up for renewal after this season, the prospect of a White Sox season without Hawk in the booth is unimaginable.

"He can't separate himself from the team," longtime Chicago Sun-Times columnist Rick Telander says. "If they had a slide out of the press box he'd be right down there in the umpire's face. And he'd probably start a fight. And he probably wouldn't mind."

Hawk doesn't disagree. "Sure, I get pissed off a lot during the ballgame. Because I treat every game like I was a player."

Though if Hawk has built himself up as a man not to be trifled with, sitting here today, the Masters tournament on a small screen by his side and batting practice commencing below, his gentle Southern charm belies anything resembling a testy reputation. "I can't remember the last time I was this excited going into a Spring Training," Hawk says. He'd planned to cut back on his workload this year – he was looking at announcing roughly 120 games – but once White Sox GM Rick Hahn started making improvements this offseason, trading for Jeff Samardzija and signing David Robertson, Melky Cabrera and Adam LaRoche, Hawk changed his mind: "We're having dinner, Aris and I, and I said, 'Honey, we're gonna do em' all!" he laughs.

In his nine years as a player – the best of which came with Boston in 1968, when he clubbed 35 home runs, drove in 109 runs and finished third in AL MVP voting – Hawk was every bit as colorful as his modern-day antics might suggest. He wore his hair long, was fashion-forward, traveled in celebrity circles and even opened a Boston-area nightclub. "The Red Sox were looking for a personality," Harrelson once said. "And it happened to be me."

At the time, he was also developing a reputation as a superb golfer. (After retiring from baseball midway through the '71 season, he went pro in golf; his temper got the best of him and he quickly left the PGA tour). In conversation he's quick to relay stories of rounds with Ben Crenshaw and Arnold Palmer, with whom he played in a regular foursome for many years.

"Arnold and I butted heads for 40 years," Hawk says. "Great guy. Can't play anymore but he can't hardly move. I see him every day in the winter. He'll come out and watch us play the last four, five holes and then we'll go in and have a cocktail and tell some lies."

For a ham like Harrelson, a transition to the broadcast booth was inevitable. In 1975 the Red Sox paired him with longtime sports announcer Dick Stockton. While he didn't fully develop his in-booth flair until the White Sox hired him in 1982, it was in Boston where Hawk learned the ropes. "[Longtime broadcaster] Gene Kirby was a tough guy," he says. "He set my ass straight in a hurry about what my responsibilities were. He called me the first time the Red Sox were playing the Yankees and said, 'Hawk, that telecast you're going to be doing tonight is going to be seen by more people than you ever played for in your career.'"

Notwithstanding a one-year GM gig, in 1986, when he was hired – and quickly dispatched – by the White Sox, a decision longtime owner Jerry Reinsdorf has described as "disastrous," Hawk has been calling White Sox games for the better part of the past three decades. Slowly, over time, he began to cultivate his now-famous style, including his catchphrases ("You can put it on the board! Yes!"), many of which he picked up on the golf course, and nicknames for players (Frank "The Big Hurt" Thomas). He also began developing a loyal following – not to mention a legion of people who despised his work.

Broadcast partner Stone – who previously worked with the equally divisive Harry Caray – believes it's a positive that Hawk is so polarizing. "It's good that people really love him and people don't like him at all," he says. "The worst thing that can happen to a broadcaster is indifference. If people have an opinion about you, whether on the high side or the low side, at least they're thinking about you. At least you've registered with them."

Hawk knows he wears his emotions on his sleeve. He doesn't care.

"Every time we fly into this town I look out over the landscape, all the hundreds of thousands of homes, and I say to myself, 'Hawk, you have a responsibility to all these people,'" he says. "It's a somber, sobering thought. Because I do, and I understand that. They deserve a good ball club and they deserve to be told about that club in a proper manner."

When he finishes, Hawk flips open his notebook and throws open the windows to the ballpark, revealing a freshly mowed infield and the glistening home plate below. He's ready to call another Sox game. Over the next few hours, he'll yell "Son of a Bitch!" when the Sox barely miss a homer, get on his feet and dance for adoring fans during the seventh-inning stretch and fist-bump anyone who enters the broadcast booth. But right now he's just excited to be doing what he loves.

"This is a fun game," Hawk says. "I'm 73 and boy I don't feel it. When it gets to the point that I don't enjoy coming to the ballpark then I'm outta here." He pauses, the smile fades from his face and he becomes entirely serious. "Or if the White Sox start beating themselves."



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"I knew none of our guys were gonna do anything about it," Hawk recalls, the grease of his distinct South Carolina twang practically dripping onto the microphone. "So after the game I went to their clubhouse and waited for this cocksucker to come out


:lol: :lol: a fucking announcer stalking a player


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I saw the special on MLB Network about him. He is an interesting guy, I'll give him that. What I found interesting/troubling is: most of his stories from the good ol' days have to do with people that are dead and can't corroborate the events Hawk talks about on the show. Do I think he's lying? No. Do I think he's telling the complete truth? Hell no. What kind of story would that be?


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"I knew none of our guys were gonna do anything about it," Hawk recalls, the grease of his distinct South Carolina twang practically dripping onto the microphone. "So after the game I went to their clubhouse and waited for this cocksucker to come out


:lol: :lol: a fucking announcer stalking a player


I wish Padilla would have bitch slapped the old coot.

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"Every time we fly into this town I look out over the landscape, all the hundreds of thousands of homes, and I say to myself, 'Hawk, you have a responsibility to all these people,'" he says. "It's a somber, sobering thought. Because I do, and I understand that. They deserve a good ball club and they deserve to be told about that club in a proper manner."


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"Every time we fly into this town I look out over the landscape, all the hundreds of thousands of homes, and I say to myself, 'Hawk, you have a responsibility to all these people,'" he says. "It's a somber, sobering thought. Because I do, and I understand that. They deserve a good ball club and they deserve to be told about that club in a proper manner."


Add Poet to Hawk's resume


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grandiose douche who loves the game of baseball so much, he quit it for golf and loves the white sox so much, he couldn't be found when they were in the world series

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I'll take Hawk any day, flaws and all.


^^^ This.

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grandiose douche who loves the game of baseball so much, he quit it for golf and loves the white sox so much, he couldn't be found when they were in the world series

Why is Mr. White Sox a southerner who played for Boston and brought in his broadcast schtick from New York?

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grandiose douche who loves the game of baseball so much, he quit it for golf and loves the white sox so much, he couldn't be found when they were in the world series

Why is Mr. White Sox a southerner who played for Boston and brought in his broadcast schtick from New York?


The same reasons that Mr. Yankee (Barber or Mel Allen) were both southerners who didn't play the game, or why Mr. Cub (Caray) was a hometown Italian fan of the Cardinals, didn't play ball and made his bones with the Cardinals and White Sox? Or why the octogenarian Long Islander is still calling games in Southern California part time? :D

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Disingenuous blowhard.


At times certainly. But he still has a better reading of most White Sox fans than most. It's also always left unsaid that kids that follow the game (and national sports newsreaders) mimick his calls more than every other announcer going now. (fwiw)

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grandiose douche who loves the game of baseball so much, he quit it for golf and loves the white sox so much, he couldn't be found when they were in the world series

Why is Mr. White Sox a southerner who played for Boston and brought in his broadcast schtick from New York?


The same reasons that Mr. Yankee (Barber or Mel Allen) were both southerners who didn't play the game, or why Mr. Cub (Caray) was a hometown Italian fan of the Cardinals, didn't play ball and made his bones with the Cardinals and White Sox? Or why the octogenarian Long Islander is still calling games in Southern California part time? :D

If you're looking for some passionate defense of Harry Caray from me, keep looking. I've said before how it bothers me that he's celebrated as the face of the Cubs when his most and best years were for the rival. I feel the same way about Hawk and the Sox. I've never bought his act. He could just as easily be doing it for the Yankees.

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Ueker was born and raised in Milwaukee, probably the only reason they have been able to keep him all of these years. It is time for him to be done though, hell he forgets what he is doing at times.

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The quality of what Harry did was meaningless, but the broadcast of him and Stone was entertainment and always felt like it was a happy time at Wrigley...no matter what was going on in the game....Harry and Stone were always laughing/ Harry hired Stone himself, so he was never going to shit on him....This works in the inverse right now with Stone and Hawk, its an abbrasive relationship at best.

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grandiose douche who loves the game of baseball so much, he quit it for golf and loves the white sox so much, he couldn't be found when they were in the world series

Why is Mr. White Sox a southerner who played for Boston and brought in his broadcast schtick from New York?


The same reasons that Mr. Yankee (Barber or Mel Allen) were both southerners who didn't play the game, or why Mr. Cub (Caray) was a hometown Italian fan of the Cardinals, didn't play ball and made his bones with the Cardinals and White Sox? Or why the octogenarian Long Islander is still calling games in Southern California part time? :D

If you're looking for some passionate defense of Harry Caray from me, keep looking. I've said before how it bothers me that he's celebrated as the face of the Cubs when his most and best years were for the rival. I feel the same way about Hawk and the Sox. I've never bought his act. He could just as easily be doing it for the Yankees.



But that's every announcer. There are only so many jobs. Hawk is always going to be associated with the White Sox as an announcer. I'm not sure if you'd associate Harry with the Cubs, Cardinals, or White Sox more. He made noise with all three teams. He was definitely at his best as a broadcaster in St. Louis. He broke ground being an asshole with Piersall and then he was the beloved drunk uncle with the Cubs.

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Ueker was born and raised in Milwaukee, probably the only reason they have been able to keep him all of these years. It is time for him to be done though, hell he forgets what he is doing at times.

I loved listening to Bob Uecker and Jim Powell in 2007 and 2008 when the Brewers were nipping at the Cubs' heels. Great broadcasters, though I'll admit that even then Uke wasn't one to give you the score all that often.

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harry caray was a great broadcaster. Even half-stroked out, drunk and senile he was better than Hawk.

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though I'll admit that even then Uke wasn't one to give you the score all that often.


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Ueker was born and raised in Milwaukee, probably the only reason they have been able to keep him all of these years. It is time for him to be done though, hell he forgets what he is doing at times.

I loved listening to Bob Uecker and Jim Powell in 2007 and 2008 when the Brewers were nipping at the Cubs' heels. Great broadcasters, though I'll admit that even then Uke wasn't one to give you the score all that often.

Now there are times when the ball is hit into play and he doesn't describe a thing, just watches the game and then says there are 2 outs. :lol:

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harry caray was a great broadcaster. Even half-stroked out, drunk and senile he was better than Hawk.


Well, that's not true.

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though I'll admit that even then Uke wasn't one to give you the score all that often.


You could go three innings with Farmer without hearing the score.

Now there's Mr. White Sox.

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If you're looking for some passionate defense of Harry Caray from me, keep looking. I've said before how it bothers me that he's celebrated as the face of the Cubs when his most and best years were for the rival. I feel the same way about Hawk and the Sox. I've never bought his act. He could just as easily be doing it for the Yankees.


Not looking, it's never bothered me a bit. Except when Caray suddenly became Cubbie fan #1. I appreciated that he made the best professional decision when he went there, but the biggest fan shtick seemed so cheap. Especially when the image was crafted to imply his gimmicks were new.

Alternatively, I've never respected Butkus or any of the old Bears who loved to complain how they were screwed in the old days, yet found their way back to cash in with Bear broadcast/ambassador jobs.

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ITS TRUE!!

I listen to a ton of Farmio and DJ. They grow on you like a cancerous tumor. Ron Coomer is the worst guy in town. maybe ever.

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I was listening to the Dodgers game yesterday and it was amazing how Skully still sounds the same. Dude started doing broadcast for the Dodgers in 1950, I think only Regular Reader was alive from the board back then.

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ITS TRUE!!

I listen to a ton of Farmio and DJ. They grow on you like a cancerous tumor. Ron Coomer is the worst guy in town. maybe ever.


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Ever hear Joe Carter?


Oh jeez, I forgot about him. I may have been living out of state at the time. How in the hell did he get the job?

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