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Only three Cardinals now have lower ERAs!

I didn't know you were counting relievers.

I think it is. Rosenthal and Garcia for sure. There must be a third. Not to mention the best Cardinal is out for the season.

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

I think it is. Rosenthal and Garcia for sure. There must be a third. Not to mention the best Cardinal is out for the season.

Stop yourself,

Only one STARTER with a better ERA and better BAA....ZIENKE! and thats it....

Otherwise, best pitcher on Cubs staff is Denorfia!

and pitching Jake in that one wildcard game....I will just guess Vegas will have the Cubs as a -115 fave...on the road and a -125 faave at home, which really means theu see it as a 50/50 chance, as way more people will bet the cubs.

While I hate the one game idea, I hate it even more that we need to use Arrieta and then dont have him until maybe game 3 ...of a next series...

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

I think it is. Rosenthal and Garcia for sure. There must be a third. Not to mention the best Cardinal is out for the season.

Stop yourself,

Only one STARTER with a better ERA and better BAA....ZIENKE! and thats it....

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Only three Cardinals now have lower ERAs!

I feel for you.

It's getting really difficult now.

bigfan wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

I think it is. Rosenthal and Garcia for sure. There must be a third. Not to mention the best Cardinal is out for the season.

Stop yourself,

Only one STARTER with a better ERA and better BAA....ZIENKE! and thats it....

That's wrong. Jaime Garcia for sure has a lower ERA.

bigfan wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

I think it is. Rosenthal and Garcia for sure. There must be a third. Not to mention the best Cardinal is out for the season.

Stop yourself,

Only one STARTER with a better ERA and better BAA....ZIENKE! and thats it....

That's wrong. Jaime Garcia for sure has a lower ERA.

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

bigfan wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

I think it is. Rosenthal and Garcia for sure. There must be a third. Not to mention the best Cardinal is out for the season.

Stop yourself,

Only one STARTER with a better ERA and better BAA....ZIENKE! and thats it....

That's wrong. Jaime Garcia for sure has a lower ERA.

Both at 2.03.

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

bigfan wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

I think it is. Rosenthal and Garcia for sure. There must be a third. Not to mention the best Cardinal is out for the season.

Stop yourself,

Only one STARTER with a better ERA and better BAA....ZIENKE! and thats it....

That's wrong. Jaime Garcia for sure has a lower ERA.

Both at 2.03.

Garcia currently at 1.91 after six scoreless today.

Denorfia still at 0.00 after another Scoreless day!

Only three Cardinals now have lower ERAs!

While I hate the one game idea, I hate it even more that we need to use Arrieta and then dont have him until maybe game 3 ...of a next series...

Best pitcher in baseball.

bigfan wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

I think it is. Rosenthal and Garcia for sure. There must be a third. Not to mention the best Cardinal is out for the season.

I actually never hated the one game idea, but this year shows how it can end up being ridiculous... the three best teams in the NL are in the same division. Anyhow, we can all probably agree Jake won't give up a run the rest of the way.

bigfan wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

I think it is. Rosenthal and Garcia for sure. There must be a third. Not to mention the best Cardinal is out for the season.

Stop yourself,

Only one STARTER with a better ERA and better BAA....ZIENKE! and thats it....

That's wrong. Jaime Garcia for sure has a lower ERA.

How did that work out for him?

Juiced wrote:

How did that work out for him?

Don't forget....he had a "stomach virus".

Peoria Matt wrote:

Juiced wrote:

How did that work out for him?

Don't forget....he had a "stomach virus".

Far be it from me to piss on the confidence of Cub fans, but one would think you might want to refrain from chirping, you know, given the history being what it is.

I'm eating lunch at China Chef in Morton Grove and wearing a Sox t-shirt. Two Cub fans took time out from eating their pancit guisado to give me shit. :lol:

Peoria Matt wrote:

Juiced wrote:

How did that work out for him?

Don't forget....he had a "stomach virus".

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Peoria Matt wrote:

Juiced wrote:

How did that work out for him?

Don't forget....he had a "stomach virus".

No chirping here. I just had this conversation with a friend of mine.

All the people who are assuming the Cubs are up 2-1 now because of Arrieta scare the crap out of me.

The Cardinals are VERY VERY capable of winning this game. Wacha is very capable of throwing a shutout tonight. Look at what the Cards have done to Kershaw in the playoffs.

I am hopeful that Arrieta is going to have a playoff run like Bumgardner last year where he is just unbeatable, but in no way am I counting on that.

Author:	JORR [ Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:19 pm ]
Post subject:	Jake Arrieta!
Only three Cardinals now have lower ERAs!

Author:	Hockey Gay [ Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:22 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Jake Arrieta!
Not true.

Author:	JORR [ Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:23 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Jake Arrieta!
I think it is. Rosenthal and Garcia for sure. There must be a third. Not to mention the best Cardinal is out for the season.

Author:	Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:24 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Jake Arrieta!
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Only three Cardinals now have lower ERAs! I feel for you. It's getting really difficult now.

Author:	Hockey Gay [ Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:24 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Jake Arrieta!
I didn't know you were counting relievers.

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Author:	JORR [ Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:25 pm ]
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Which do you prefer? Losing the game against Pittsburgh or a slow beating at the hands of the hated Cardinals?

Author:	leashyourkids [ Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:28 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Jake Arrieta!
Hockey Gay wrote: I didn't know you were counting relievers. Hector Rondon for Cy Young!

Author:	bigfan [ Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:29 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Jake Arrieta!
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I think it is. Rosenthal and Garcia for sure. There must be a third. Not to mention the best Cardinal is out for the season. Stop yourself, Only one STARTER with a better ERA and better BAA....ZIENKE! and thats it.... Otherwise, best pitcher on Cubs staff is Denorfia! and pitching Jake in that one wildcard game....I will just guess Vegas will have the Cubs as a -115 fave...on the road and a -125 faave at home, which really means theu see it as a 50/50 chance, as way more people will bet the cubs. While I hate the one game idea, I hate it even more that we need to use Arrieta and then dont have him until maybe game 3 ...of a next series...

Author:	leashyourkids [ Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:31 pm ]
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bigfan wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I think it is. Rosenthal and Garcia for sure. There must be a third. Not to mention the best Cardinal is out for the season. Stop yourself, Only one STARTER with a better ERA and better BAA....ZIENKE! and thats it.... Otherwise, best pitcher on Cubs staff is Denorfia! and pitching Jake in that one wildcard game....I will just guess Vegas will have the Cubs as a -115 fave...on the road and a -125 faave at home, which really means theu see it as a 50/50 chance, as way more people will bet the cubs. While I hate the one game idea, I hate it even more that we need to use Arrieta and then dont have him until maybe game 3 ...of a next series... I actually never hated the one game idea, but this year shows how it can end up being ridiculous... the three best teams in the NL are in the same division. Anyhow, we can all probably agree Jake won't give up a run the rest of the way.

Author:	JORR [ Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:34 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Jake Arrieta!
bigfan wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I think it is. Rosenthal and Garcia for sure. There must be a third. Not to mention the best Cardinal is out for the season. Stop yourself, Only one STARTER with a better ERA and better BAA....ZIENKE! and thats it.... That's wrong. Jaime Garcia for sure has a lower ERA.

Author:	RFDC [ Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:40 pm ]
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Only three Cardinals now have lower ERAs! I feel for you. It's getting really difficult now.

Author:	bigfan [ Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:43 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: bigfan wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I think it is. Rosenthal and Garcia for sure. There must be a third. Not to mention the best Cardinal is out for the season. Stop yourself, Only one STARTER with a better ERA and better BAA....ZIENKE! and thats it.... That's wrong. Jaime Garcia for sure has a lower ERA. He's pitched 93 innings....yes, it is 2.01....v Jake at 2.11 But this is why they have Qualifiers to have this discussion. Otherwise, Denorfia is the ERA leader at 0.00

Author:	leashyourkids [ Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:44 pm ]
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: bigfan wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I think it is. Rosenthal and Garcia for sure. There must be a third. Not to mention the best Cardinal is out for the season. Stop yourself, Only one STARTER with a better ERA and better BAA....ZIENKE! and thats it.... That's wrong. Jaime Garcia for sure has a lower ERA. Both at 2.03. Also, 93 IP vs 183 IP.

Author:	JORR [ Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:53 pm ]
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: bigfan wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I think it is. Rosenthal and Garcia for sure. There must be a third. Not to mention the best Cardinal is out for the season. Stop yourself, Only one STARTER with a better ERA and better BAA....ZIENKE! and thats it.... That's wrong. Jaime Garcia for sure has a lower ERA. Both at 2.03. Garcia currently at 1.91 after six scoreless today.

Author:	bigfan [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:46 pm ]
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Jake, riding the bike around Wrigley a few times , just to see whats going on.

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Author:	bigfan [ Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:55 pm ]
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Denorfia still at 0.00 after another Scoreless day!

Author:	leashyourkids [ Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:01 pm ]
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bigfan wrote: Denorfia still at 0.00 after another Scoreless day! I think David Ross is right there with him, right? We have two Cy Young candidate position players!

Author:	Juiced [ Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:58 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Only three Cardinals now have lower ERAs!

Author:	leashyourkids [ Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:53 am ]
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http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/sortable.jsp#s ... 1547538531 Best pitcher in baseball. The guy closest to him is almost 12% worse than Jake Arrieta is at pitching. Pretty impressive.

Author:	Jaw Breaker [ Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:53 am ]
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bigfan wrote: While I hate the one game idea, I hate it even more that we need to use Arrieta and then dont have him until maybe game 3 ...of a next series... That's the beauty of it though...it fairly rewards the team with the best record over 162 games. As much as it will suck for the Cubs this year, it is a great system and I hope they do not change it.

Author:	sinicalypse [ Mon Sep 07, 2015 10:22 am ]
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leashyourkids wrote: Best pitcher in baseball. and that jose fernandez guy isn't too bad either.

Author:	leashyourkids [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:56 am ]
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leashyourkids wrote: bigfan wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I think it is. Rosenthal and Garcia for sure. There must be a third. Not to mention the best Cardinal is out for the season. Stop yourself, Only one STARTER with a better ERA and better BAA....ZIENKE! and thats it.... Otherwise, best pitcher on Cubs staff is Denorfia! and pitching Jake in that one wildcard game....I will just guess Vegas will have the Cubs as a -115 fave...on the road and a -125 faave at home, which really means theu see it as a 50/50 chance, as way more people will bet the cubs. While I hate the one game idea, I hate it even more that we need to use Arrieta and then dont have him until maybe game 3 ...of a next series... I actually never hated the one game idea, but this year shows how it can end up being ridiculous... the three best teams in the NL are in the same division. Anyhow, we can all probably agree Jake won't give up a run the rest of the way. At the time, I said this in jest, but I think it ended up being true.

Author:	Juiced [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:13 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: bigfan wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I think it is. Rosenthal and Garcia for sure. There must be a third. Not to mention the best Cardinal is out for the season. Stop yourself, Only one STARTER with a better ERA and better BAA....ZIENKE! and thats it.... That's wrong. Jaime Garcia for sure has a lower ERA. How did that work out for him?

Author:	Peoria Matt [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:32 pm ]
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Juiced wrote: How did that work out for him? Don't forget....he had a "stomach virus".

Author:	JORR [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:38 pm ]
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Peoria Matt wrote: Juiced wrote: How did that work out for him? Don't forget....he had a "stomach virus". Far be it from me to piss on the confidence of Cub fans, but one would think you might want to refrain from chirping, you know, given the history being what it is. I'm eating lunch at China Chef in Morton Grove and wearing a Sox t-shirt. Two Cub fans took time out from eating their pancit guisado to give me shit.

Author:	RFDC [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:42 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Peoria Matt wrote: Juiced wrote: How did that work out for him? Don't forget....he had a "stomach virus". Far be it from me to piss on the confidence of Cub fans, but one would think you might want to refrain from chirping, you know, given the history being what it is. I'm eating lunch at China Chef in Morton Grove and wearing a Sox t-shirt. Two Cub fans took time out from eating their pancit guisado to give me shit. No chirping here. I just had this conversation with a friend of mine. All the people who are assuming the Cubs are up 2-1 now because of Arrieta scare the crap out of me. The Cardinals are VERY VERY capable of winning this game. Wacha is very capable of throwing a shutout tonight. Look at what the Cards have done to Kershaw in the playoffs. I am hopeful that Arrieta is going to have a playoff run like Bumgardner last year where he is just unbeatable, but in no way am I counting on that.

Author:	Peoria Matt [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:45 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Peoria Matt wrote: Juiced wrote: How did that work out for him? Don't forget....he had a "stomach virus". Far be it from me to piss on the confidence of Cub fans, but one would think you might want to refrain from chirping, you know, given the history being what it is. I'm eating lunch at China Chef in Morton Grove and wearing a Sox t-shirt. Two Cub fans took time out from eating their pancit guisado to give me shit. I wasn't chirping. I just found it odd that after a terrible inning, he was too sick to continue.

Author:	Hockey Gay [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:47 pm ]
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RFDC wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Peoria Matt wrote: Juiced wrote: How did that work out for him? Don't forget....he had a "stomach virus". Far be it from me to piss on the confidence of Cub fans, but one would think you might want to refrain from chirping, you know, given the history being what it is. I'm eating lunch at China Chef in Morton Grove and wearing a Sox t-shirt. Two Cub fans took time out from eating their pancit guisado to give me shit. No chirping here. I just had this conversation with a friend of mine. All the people who are assuming the Cubs are up 2-1 now because of Arrieta scare the crap out of me. The Cardinals are VERY VERY capable of winning this game. Wacha is very capable of throwing a shutout tonight. Look at what the Cards have done to Kershaw in the playoffs. I am hopeful that Arrieta is going to have a playoff run like Bumgardner last year where he is just unbeatable, but in no way am I counting on that. You're right. I'm looking ahead and I scare the shit out of myself. I'm sure as soon as it's game time though that I'll be pretty intense because if there is one team that would beat Arrieta, or course it would be the fucking Cardinals.