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Author:  JORR [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:00 am ]
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Anyone who is offended by this glorious holiday is free to quit claim his real property to a Native American of his choice.

Author:  W_Z [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:53 am ]
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he wrote some great screenplays.

Author:  SteveSarley [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:56 am ]
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Are you guys talking about the raincoat wearing detective played by Peter Falk?

Author:  spmack [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:56 am ]
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I love his street on the southwest side aka SW Hwy. Gateway to Oak Lawn and Worth (The Friendly Village).

Author:  Godfella [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:49 am ]
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Cristiforo Colombo - My guy!

This is a great day for my people...

jimmypasta, where you at?!?

Author:  jimmypasta [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:57 am ]
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I'm bangin' some chick that goes by the name Santa Maria.

Author:  Godfella [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:59 am ]
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jimmypasta wrote:
I'm bangin' some chick that goes by the name Santa Maria.

:lol: Bada Bing!

Author:  Brick [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:02 am ]
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This holiday shows you the dangers of a poor immigration policy.

Author:  spmack [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:02 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
This holiday shows you the dangers of a poor immigration policy.

Unless you were forced here by boat.

Author:  Brick [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:03 am ]
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spmack wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
This holiday shows you the dangers of a poor immigration policy.

Unless you were forced here by boat.
:lol: Wow.

Author:  W_Z [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:01 pm ]
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spmack wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
This holiday shows you the dangers of a poor immigration policy.

Unless you were forced here by boat.


We have a POTY candidate. Up there with BRick's "Actually Is" rebuttal.

Author:  Peoria Matt [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:41 pm ]
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spmack wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
This holiday shows you the dangers of a poor immigration policy.

Unless you were forced here by boat.


Definite POTY candidate. This will be quite a race this year.

Author:  sinicalypse [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:47 pm ]
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obligatory..... from last year here's jon oliver's columbus day: how is this still a thing?

not saying that's my views on this, only that i saw that last year and you can at least see what "the right side of history" thinks about today. how far off are we from people vociferously protesting the 4th of july because it glorifies our historical role as the ultimate indian killers? maybe they can get that rapping indian dude from all those commercials spammed upon us lately and make an extra poignant point.

Author:  JORR [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:14 pm ]
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Image

Author:  leashyourkids [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:16 pm ]
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Fuck Columbus Day. Day care was closed (why would day care close?)

Luckily, I volunteered to stay home so I could mentally prepare for the Cubs.

Author:  Zizou [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:24 pm ]
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Euro trash.

Should change it to like Discovery Day or Americas Day. Dipshit dago didn't even make it to the United States. Phoenicians, St. Brendan, some Chinamen, and Leif Erikson actually got to North America.

Author:  Kadomony [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:43 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Anyone who is offended by this glorious holiday is free to quit claim his real property to a Native American of his choice.

That's a pretty poor argument. It's equivalent to saying anyone who is against reparations for slavery also celebrates the Confederacy. I think one can safely suggest that Columbus was a bad guy who committed atrocious acts and shouldn't be celebrated in 2015. We don't consider the Inquisition something worth celebrating, but nobody is suggesting the Catholic church pay reparations to the descendants of the victims today.

Author:  Tall Midget [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:52 am ]
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In the Polish sections of Western Massachusetts, people celebrate October 12th as Casimir Pulaski Day. Columbus doesn't cut the mustard.

Author:  JORR [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:04 am ]
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Kadomony wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Anyone who is offended by this glorious holiday is free to quit claim his real property to a Native American of his choice.

That's a pretty poor argument. It's equivalent to saying anyone who is against reparations for slavery also celebrates the Confederacy. I think one can safely suggest that Columbus was a bad guy who committed atrocious acts and shouldn't be celebrated in 2015. We don't consider the Inquisition something worth celebrating, but nobody is suggesting the Catholic church pay reparations to the descendants of the victims today.



Well, I'm sure you understood I wasn't really serious, but the underlying point stands. People complaining on Facebook really don't give a shit except to the point that they will complain on Facebook. It's probably best to just shut the fuck up and enjoy the day off if you get it. If you really care that much, you are capable of doing more than posting platitudes about atrocities committed by a guy who has been dead for 500 years.

Author:  Kadomony [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:17 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Well, I'm sure you understood I wasn't really serious, but the underlying point stands. People complaining on Facebook really don't give a shit except to the point that they will complain on Facebook. It's probably best to just shut the fuck up and enjoy the day off if you get it. If you really care that much, you are caable of doing more than posting platitudes about atrocities committed by a guy who has been dead for 500 years.

Not defending the Facebook complainers, and the atrocities themselves are history, but I do think it's a relevant topic today due to the ongoing holiday combined with the recent push in Texas and other conservative states to teach a whitewashed version of history.

Author:  SomeGuy [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:43 pm ]
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Love him, love his suit.

I also love manifest destiny.

Author:  Tall Midget [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:15 pm ]
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SomeGuy wrote:
Love him, love his suit.

I also love manifest destiny.


In A Brief Account of the Devastation of the Indies, Bartoleme de las Casas wrote:
On the Island Hispaniola was where the Spaniards first landed, as I have said. Here those Christians perpetrated their first ravages and oppressions against the native peoples. This was the first land in the New World to be destroyed and depopulated by the Christians, and here they began their subjection of the women and children, taking them away from the Indians to use them and ill use them, eating the food they provided with their sweat and toil. The Spaniards did not content themselves with what the Indians gave them of their own free will, according to their ability, which was always too little to satisfy enormous appetites, for a Christian eats and consumes in one day an amount of food that would suffice to feed three houses inhabited by ten Indians for one month. And they committed other acts of force and violence and oppression which made the Indians realize that these men had not come from Heaven. And some of the Indians concealed their foods while others concealed their wives and children and still others fled to the mountains to avoid the terrible transactions of the Christians.

And the Christians attacked them with buffets and beatings, until finally they laid hands on the nobles of the villages. Then they behaved with such temerity and shamelessness that the most powerful ruler of the islands had to see his own wife raped by a Christian officer.

From that time onward the Indians began to seek ways to throw the Christians out of their lands. They took up arms, but their weapons were very weak and of little service in offense and still less in defense. (Because of this, the wars of the Indians against each other are little more than games played by children.) And the Christians, with their horses and swords and pikes began to carry out massacres and strange cruelties against them. They attacked the towns and spared neither the children nor the aged nor pregnant women nor women in childbed, not only stabbing them and dismembering them but cutting them to pieces as if dealing with sheep in the slaughter house. They laid bets as to who, with one stroke of the sword, could split a man in two or could cut off his head or spill out his entrails with a single stroke of the pike. They took infants from their mothers' breasts, snatching them by the legs and pitching them headfirst against the crags or snatched them by the arms and threw them into the rivers, roaring with laughter and saying as the babies fell into the water, "Boil there, you offspring of the devil!" Other infants they put to the sword along with their mothers and anyone else who happened to be nearby. They made some low wide gallows on which the hanged victim's feet almost touched the ground, stringing up their victims in lots of thirteen, in memory of Our Redeemer and His twelve Apostles, then set burning wood at their feet and thus burned them alive. To others they attached straw or wrapped their whole bodies in straw and set them afire. With still others, all those they wanted to capture alive, they cut off their hands and hung them round the victim's neck, saying, "Go now, carry the message," meaning, Take the news to the Indians who have fled to the mountains. They usually dealt with the chieftains and nobles in the following way: they made a grid of rods which they placed on forked sticks, then lashed the victims to the grid and lighted a smoldering fire underneath, so that little by little, as those captives screamed in despair and torment, their souls would leave them....

After the wars and the killings had ended, when usually there survived only some boys, some women, and children, these survivors were distributed among the Christians to be slaves. The repartimiento or distribution was made according to the rank and importance of the Christian to whom the Indians were allocated, one of them being given thirty, another forty, still another, one or two hundred, and besides the rank of the Christian there was also to be considered in what favor he stood with the tyrant they called Governor. The pretext was that these allocated Indians were to be instructed in the articles of the Christian Faith. As if those Christians who were as a rule foolish and cruel and greedy and vicious could be caretakers of souls! And the care they took was to send the men to the mines to dig for gold, which is intolerable labor, and to send the women into the fields of the big ranches to hoe and till the land, work suitable for strong men. Nor to either the men or the women did they give any food except herbs and legumes, things of little substance. The milk in the breasts of the women with infants dried up and thus in a short while the infants perished. And since men and women were separated, there could be no marital relations. And the men died in the mines and the women died on the ranches from the same causes, exhaustion and hunger. And thus was depopulated that island which had been densely populated.

Author:  SomeGuy [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:03 pm ]
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The Spanish lay claim
Plant their flag
Hail the conquerors

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