"[Lena] Dunham's eye-burning uterus sweater, in this light, served as the perfect visual distillation of her brand of modern "feminist" politics. It's a cult of sorts, reducing women into walking, helpless reproductive systems."

I think in a few hundred years there is a good possibility that people will look back on American society in the late 20th/early 21st century and call us "the people that killed their babies".

Wow, there's a lot to disagree with in this article.

Third-wavers aren't obsessed with biology. If anything, they're skeptical of it and how it's used to justify misogyny (which sometimes it is and sometimes it isn't). Any postulations that there are differences between men and women that run deeper than reproductive systems are derisively written off as "biotruths." Evolutionary psychology is treated as something less credible than phrenology. Yes, many people would prefer that abortions, if necessary, are safe and legal, but that's a battle worth fighting. Other than that, the movement places primacy on "lived experiences," which is a florid way of saying that anecdotal data is preferable to empirical data, which is largely treated as a tool of the oppressor. Geez, you give 'em enough rope and they'll start saying they're pregnant because they feel pregnant and you don't get to deny them that.

I don't think it's strange to fight for Planned Parenthood at a time when conservative ghouls are trying to eliminate it on the same basis that they're always trying to eliminate the NEA and the CPB: this idea that YOUR TAX DOLLARS are being spent on something evil when 1) they're really not, 2) it'd be worse for society not to spend that money, 3) relative to the military-industrial slop bucket, you're not even spending very much anyway, and 4) fuck you, government spending isn't an Old Country Buffet; you don't get to opt out of the stuff you don't like any more than I get to opt out of the slop bucket. I don't think Lena Dunham's costume is sexy nor cool, nor is it anything greater than standard-issue millennial slacktivism, but yeah, we're better off with Planned Parenthood than without.

Then you scroll down and ohhhhhhh this is just some batshit op-ed from a red-state pro-lifer: "dismantling tiny humans," imaginary Planned Parenthood snuff films, so on, so forth.

(Although, I have to admit the possibility that I am influenced to some degree by my Catholic upbringing. I'm not one of the many CSFMB members who is immune to advertising or suggestion.) But my viewpoint is simply that we're celebrating the murder of children.

Folks who claim that that PP is somehow unnecessary and being misrepresented are doing so only try and cast a thin veil over their misogyny or blatant religious zealotry, or both.

Folks who claim that that PP is somehow necessary and being misrepresented are doing so only try and cast a thin veil over their ignorance or blatant racism, or both.

Wheeeee! The broad brush game is awesome!

I don't think it's strange to fight for Planned Parenthood at a time when conservative ghouls are trying to eliminate it on the same basis that they're always trying to eliminate the NEA and the CPB: this idea that YOUR TAX DOLLARS are being spent on something evil when 1) they're really not, 2) it'd be worse for society not to spend that money,

Your ignorance is vincible, or invincible?

Planned Parenthood targets African Americans.

Learn something new every day.

I'm an outlier in that I'm against abortion without any religious basis. ............. But my viewpoint is simply that we're celebrating the murder of children. I think in a few hundred years there is a good possibility that people will look back on American society in the late 20th/early 21st century and call us "the people that killed their babies".

Obviously, Wilhelm is a right-winger. And sure, at times she makes boneheaded right wing arguments. But in this case, I think her takedown of Dunham and her ilk is spot on. Are women strong? Do they have agency? Or are they helpless victims at the mercy of any man?

Regarding the abortion part of the article, clearly those Planned Parenthood videos are edited in a certain way. But the fact remains, those doctors are saying the things they're saying. They're yukking it up about dead babies over lunch. That's a fact. And that's a loser for the "pro-choice" movement.

I'm an outlier in that I'm against abortion without any religious basis. (Although, I have to admit the possibility that I am influenced to some degree by my Catholic upbringing. I'm not one of the many CSFMB members who is immune to advertising or suggestion.) But my viewpoint is simply that we're celebrating the murder of children. I think in a few hundred years there is a good possibility that people will look back on American society in the late 20th/early 21st century and call us "the people that killed their babies".

This is a conversation that can't be reasonably had with most women of my generation or younger. I've tried it with my wife. It's a conversation that I imagine to be somewhat similar to one that might have taken place between a Southern planter and an abolitionist circa 1840. One side of said conversation being based solely on the "rights" of the person making the argument.

Planned Parenthood targets African Americans.

Learn something new every day.

I think most people are against abortion. No one likes it. But people against the concept are still willing to make provisions for cases where it may be necessary and would prefer to keep it safe and legal than unsafe and illegal. I don't like the idea myself, but I don't see it as baby-killing, either, and especially not as "black genocide."

I think most people are against abortion. No one likes it. But people against the concept are still willing to make provisions for cases where it may be necessary and would prefer to keep it safe and legal than unsafe and illegal. I don't like the idea myself, but I don't see it as baby-killing, either, and especially not as "black genocide."

I would disagree with that. There's a lot of people more or less celebrating it on social media. #ShoutYOurAbortion or whatever the fuck the latest hashtag is.

Because you choose NOT to see the facts about what PP does, hardly makes the facts of their behavior, and your opposition to it, any more defensible.

I would disagree with that. There's a lot of people more or less celebrating it on social media. #ShoutYOurAbortion or whatever the fuck the latest hashtag is.

Well, that's clearly stupid, but then I've never known anything profound to begin with a pound sign.

I'm against abortion in theory, but if I were to say that every woman should have to carry every pregnancy to term, I think that would make me against women.

"People on Twitter are saying..." Bernstein likes this.

Hmm, blackgenocide.org isn't quite what I thought it would be.