my brother in laws were big do-it-yourselfers for a while. Do-it-yourself always meant that I had to help. I don't have many skills in that area and they would bitch about my work behind my back. Meanwhile, the stuff they did was equally poor. It was obvious the work was done by homeowner with whatever project they took on. One brother in law is a tradesman so he always exchanges work for his friends with them working on his stuff and it is noticeably better.

One of my brother in laws has had 3 houses over the years. He insists on building a bar for each. He is so proud of them when he is finished but they look like something you would find in a frat house. He had some huge shard of wood impale his hand while making one, had to go to the hospital and had an infection for a month. NWI problems.

I can see it in a second if the work is done by 2 guys they found on Craigslist.

My painter, JUAN! is excellent...he is a complete diva and charges way too much, but I know the job will be done perfect and faster than anyone I have ever used. I dont need to watch him, he calls me when he thinks we will be looking short on paint....not when he is out of paint. He cleans up and comes back to fix mistakes.

...and Chus, please dont tell me again about how you dont call people out.

plus he can fix you a nice breakfast afterward

My painter, JUAN! is excellent...he is a complete diva and charges way too much, but I know the job will be done perfect and faster than anyone I have ever used. I dont need to watch him, he calls me when he thinks we will be looking short on paint....not when he is out of paint. He cleans up and comes back to fix mistakes.

he is right.

you just need skilled labor to paint well.

then again, you are listening to a guy who got caught lieing about his whole career?

...and Chus, please dont tell me again about how you dont call people out.

The guy may be a complete phony, but there is no denying his charisma. I never tire of him telling hapless restaurant owners that their food isn't fit for a dog.

"you don't need skilled labor to paint".

This completely explains Elmhurst Steve's career path.

Careful. You better not call anybody out.

Careful. You better not call anybody out.

I could care less if you call him out all day, but you as much as anyone here loves to tell everyone that you dont that. You dont go after anyone. So it isnt about calling someone out, its about believing your own bullshit at this point.

Call him out all you want, he says shit that should be called out, but dont sit back tell me that you dont do it and you just go around here doing nothing, because the list of people you have gone after isnt as short as you think it is for some unknown reason.

Boyd got it right. he wants to call the guy out for saying shit here, go for it. Just dont try and tell me later you dont engage in such shit.

But stop the crying about how you dont do anything.

Then it shouldn't be hard for you to provide some unedited posts of mine where i claim to be above it.

And you obviously care, or you wouldn't still be at it. There are many topics on the board about which i don't care, so i don't post in them. I post in the ones that do matter to me.